Looks matter, lets be honest....now deal with it folks.

July 31, 2012

I'm not attracted to a girl who is not attractive

point proven, case closed.

July 31, 2012

point proven, case closed.

How is that so much different than women? I have heard tons and tons and tons of women say they won't date a guy they're not attracted to

You're just as delusional as the misogynists here

July 31, 2012

many women in America probably don't even know what sport David Beckham plays but still love him

I bet men's favorite discipline in the Olympics is beach volleyball, and I'm absolutely sure it's not because of what those women are wearing (or rather, what they are not wearing).

July 31, 2012

Hey I've been saying this all along. Can the ugly women give up now, instead of being told it's their "attitude" or their "confidence"?

July 31, 2012

Hey I've been saying this all along. Can the ugly women give up now, instead of being told it's their "attitude" or their "confidence"?

“There are no ugly women in the world, just lazy ones” ~ Coco Chanel

July 31, 2012

“There are no ugly women in the world, just lazy ones” ~ Coco Chanel

Yeah, just like people are poor or unemployed because they're lazy. Honestly, a body-swapping machine cannot come fast enough, so that when people make those sorts of ridiculous statements, they be forced to actually live in an ugly body and see for themselves how impossible it is to be beautiful.

July 31, 2012

“There are no ugly women in the world, just lazy ones” ~ Coco Chanel

That person is so wrong.

July 31, 2012

I rarely come across truly ugly women. Or men, for that matter.

July 31, 2012

I absolutely agree that's a preference for taller guys but it's not a prerequisite is my point. Most 5-3 girls would date say a 5'4 guy that they liked a lot

Doubtful, because many girls arent sexually attracted to men that short. Just because you like someone doesnt mean youll be attracted to them.

most women are dating guys 3-4 inches taller than them because men are naturally about 4-5 inches taller than women anyways

And most women are attracted to guys who are at least that much taller than them. For the super short guys (5'5 and under), its hard for them to land women. You can ask them.

Its silly for us to discount their experiences.

July 31, 2012

Doubtful, because many girls arent sexually attracted to men that short. Just because you like someone doesnt mean youll be attracted to them.

And most women are attracted to guys who are at least that much taller than them. For the super short guys (5'5 and under), its hard for them to land women. You can ask them.

Its silly for us to discount their experiences.

I can't say I've seen TOO many super short guys, but I've known quite a few and all bar one have done quite well with women. One is even engaged now .

July 31, 2012

Women go crazy for beckham also because of his status and fame

I don't agree on equally visual. I think it's a 60/40 split both ways. Women care a little more about status/fame/personality while men care a little more about purely physical

Um beckham is a handsome guy whos in great shape. And he was even better looking in his 20s. Girls used to swoon over him back then just as hard.

Id say men and women are equally visual. The only reason status and fame ever mattered so much to women is because men controlled most of the status and fame in society for the longest time. And for years most women couldnt take care of themselves. And in many places around the world, women cant attain the same status or cash as men.

Nowadays women can be famous, and you see average lasses all over the media getting voted as super hot. Take Lucy Liu. I have NO idea why she was ever considered super sexy back during the 90s. Shes average at best....but her fame, and the novelty of her being Asian definitely helped. Consider the fact that rarity makes something or someone more appealing...and that Asians make up only 5% of the population in the USA.

So all in all, I think now that more women are getting their own careers and money and status...and lets not forget that womens sexuality is not as stifled as it was in the past...thatt all this makes for an environment where women can be truly who they are. And that is sexual beings, just like men are.

All these throws backs about men being the most visual, and women caring more about personality dont apply as much in this day and age. You can see men and women acting similar with it comes to looks or status.

July 31, 2012

Um beckham is a handsome guy whos in great shape. And he was even better looking in his 20s. Girls used to swoon over him back then just as hard.

Id say men and women are equally visual. The only reason status and fame ever mattered so much to women is because men controlled most of the status and fame in society for the longest time. And for years most women couldnt take care of themselves. And in many places around the world, women cant attain the same status or cash as men.

Nowadays women can be famous, and you see average lasses all over the media getting voted as super hot. Take Lucy Liu. I have NO idea why she was ever considered super sexy back during the 90s. Shes average at best....but her fame, and the novelty of her being Asian definitely helped. Consider the fact that rarity makes something or someone more appealing...and that Asians make up only 5% of the population in the USA.

So all in all, I think now that more women are getting their own careers and money and status...and lets not forget that womens sexuality is not as stifled as it was in the past...thatt all this makes for an environment where women can be truly who they are. And that is sexual beings, just like men are.

All these throws backs about men being the most visual, and women caring more about personality dont apply as much in this day and age. You can see men and women acting similar with it comes to looks or status.

Agree, although to be fair, I always though Lucy Liu was hot, and I reckon it would be the same even if she wasn't famous. I bet she takes a good solid one well ........

July 31, 2012

And let me add;

But at the end of the day its all individual. I dont pay attention to silly generalizations about women being emotional, caring so much about personality, and getting attached after sex.Why? Cus Ive had girls use me as a living dildo, with no regard for any emotional feelings, and not give 2 shhitz about my personality. And then Ive known guys, and read posts from guys on here, who are very emotive, passionate, caring, and dont care to be with many women at all.

You know what I think the deal is? Women dont brag about the crap they feel or do much of the time...but they do get busy and think naughty stuff just like guys can. They just keep it on the DL

Agree, although to be fair, I always though Lucy Liu was hot, and I reckon it would be the same even if she wasn't famous. I bet she takes a good solid one well ........

omg

That last part made me laugh super hard. I bet she could take a proper smashing too lol. I just was never able to use the word 'hot' for her. Cute, yes. Pretty, yes. But her lack of what I consider a womanly body keeps me from calling her hot.

Edited July 31, 2012 by kaylan

July 31, 2012

I rarely come across truly ugly women. Or men, for that matter.

Perhaps you're just not looking hard enough. Or maybe we're all just starting to migrate indoors, so nobody is forced to see us.

But, hey, at least it's confirmed that looks matter, so us ugly people can give up. Finally, it's like this board was allergic to the idea.

August 1, 2012

Ok...so if looks matter...what are you all prepared to do about that?

August 1, 2012

Ok...so if looks matter...what are you all prepared to do about that?

Unlike verhrzn, I'm going out into the world and make sure a bunch of people see me. I welcome their suffering.

August 1, 2012

Yes, looks DO matter to a certain extent....everyone has their breaking point.

For instance, everyone knows, and sorry for the brutal honestly...unless someone has an obesity fetish, no thin man will date a obese woman, and vice versa.

I had noticed a woman kinda making eyes at me at a party one time, I did converse with her, nice woman....overly giggling at some of my comments....but she probably weighs more than I do. And most men wouldn't date a woman (or woman would date a man) that portly. It's simply visually repulsive to most people who are of especially regular (or thin) weight parameters.

I had compared myself to my friends and aquaintences, and I have to say....I am not much into looks as THEY are.

Like I had said before, I know a guy that wouldn't even date red heads, and I asked, "You mean, if Nicole Kidman (who I think is beautiful), asked you out, you wouldn't go out with her?"

And he said "Nope" (something about how red heads intimidate him) lol

I recall a guy at a party saying "man there's nothing but fat chicks here" and I didn't see a single "fat" chick.

But even I have my threshold of what I find attractive to completely unappealing.

With women, I think some of them are holding out for better, like they see a guy, thinks he's "cute" but she turns him down, waiting for the next HUNK in the group to approach them.

It's always the BBD with some people (Bigger better deal).

They're actually ATTRACTED to the person, but they're like "Hm, let me sleep on that, while I approach this perfect 10".

Ok. This thread is inspired by this thread :http://www.loveshack.org/forums/transitioning/search/338458-women-say-they-want-guy-who-can-make-them-laugh

You know what makes me laugh...the double sided advice given by both men and women on this forum. One week everyones agreeing how much physical attraction is important and plays into dating, and then the next week everyones saying how its not that important and how personality matters the most(of which humor is included). I will say that either can override the other though depending on how well the click is in either area.

Can some of you folks (men and women) make up your minds and stay consistent instead of bouncing around the place when you want to win an argument?

Look....LOOKS DO MATTER....how much they matter though depends on the partnership you are going for.

For those with at least average sex drives or more (most of us), who seek long term companionship thats fulfilling in all facets...then Id say personality grabs a larger piece of the pie than looks. For those who want a short term partnership Id say looks grabs a larger slice of the pie than personality (lets say in both cases the bigger slice will get 60 to 65%)

However, this can work a little differently too....sometimes people date those with personalities that dont match theirs so much because the other person is very attractive to them physically. And sometimes people date folks who arent their physical ideal, but their personality outweighs all of that. Which will last longer?....honestly it depends....even if the person isnt a direct match for you in one of the categories, its possible that two people have such a good overall dynamic, that it wont matter if one side isnt perfect.

Moving on, I will tell you this. I very much agree with those who study human behavior; that we attribute positive attributes to those we deem more attractive...and not as often as the other way around. Hell its happened to me on two different fronts...hair and body.

Ive always been a funny outgoing guy. Ive always been a fairly confident guy. However, at least until college, I had always felt like an average or sometimes even below average guy. But a few years back once I found the right style for me, and started growing my long dreads, boom...girls started paying more attention to me. I told the same jokes, had the same delivery as always...but now the laughs turned into flirtatious laughter.

Id see a buddy of mine try to get away with the same kinds of over the top, lewd, suggestive jokes I did, but it just didnt fly well for him. Also, Ive always been a thin dude....but Ive always had a muscular build and have been toned. Ive basically always been that guy who seems skinny, but when his shirt is off I always get the "wow kaylan, you work out?" And this is from guys and girls. And Ive seen how once I started wearing fitted clothes to show my figure off, or if a girl caught me with my shirt off somehow, that on several occasions there were super receptive to me later one.

All in all, Im just saying that I wish people would once and for all just acknowledge the fact that looks play a huge role in peoples treatment of you. I dont feel women are any less visual than men are. I can see I get more looks now that Ive been in gym for a little while getting in better shape.

I understand everyone is not attracted to the same thing, however, science has proven there are certain physical attributes that will make a man or woman sexy....like having a particular shoulder to waste (in men) or hip to waist (in women) ratio for example.

And not for nothing, I dont buy that women are picking Louis CK and Chris Rock over Denzel Washington and Channing Tatum all on the fact of the former being funny. Ive heard things from women before like "I dont like 6 packs" or "I like a regular looking guy". First off, god save us all if people in America are ok with looking like Louis CK and not actually take care of themselves better. Secondly, its been my experience that the males or females who say things like that cant really pull the more empirically attractive bunch. Im just being honest....hell, Ive heard girls say they prefer a guy who was nothing like me....and then be all over me at a later date.

So all in all, Im watching what people do, and paying less mind to what they say. And based on what we all see, all of us know looks play a huge role in sexual selection. Its not the ultimate role, or the largest role, or the only role all the time....but it plays a role.

August 1, 2012

I make working outmost days a priority.

Looking slim and fit will enhance any relationship. Being fit and healthy will make your partner more attracted to you, and make your sex life better.

If I am to spend a large portion of my life with a man, I want us to BOTH keep fit.

When I did not work out, it was not about " oh damn, I am not thin anymore"... What got to me MORE, was that I no longer felt sexy or attrctive enough to enjoy my sex life to it's FULLEST.

Sex was still good, but I want to be able to be naked, walk around, and present a fit and healthy body to my partner.

Not being your physical ideals can still work; as long as you have SOME attraction! Therefore, looks DO matter, but how much they matter varies, and I believe keeping your body active, and being sexually attracted to the right person, is all you need; EVEN if they are not " VERY hot".

August 1, 2012

I can't say I've seen TOO many super short guys, but I've known quite a few and all bar one have done quite well with women. One is even engaged now .

For your consideration and viewing pleasure:

August 1, 2012

I agree..rented a summer home with friends some married some single and my friend whos really good looking and slept with tons of women during our month you can tell the difference in the way women treat him..

Even the married women overly laugh at his jokes and hes not THAT funny..plus he gets away with being arrogant and its called "confidence" and "charisma" where a less attractive guy would be called a jerk for stuff he says and does..

August 1, 2012

If anyone around here has EVER said that looks don't matter, I have completely missed it.

2 true facts:

Looks aren't everything (how original, huh)

Billions of people who look all kinds of ways are in relationships, including truly ugly, obese and deformed people.

August 1, 2012

If anyone around here has EVER said that looks don't matter, I have completely missed it.

2 true facts:

Looks aren't everything (how original, huh)

Billions of people who look all kinds of ways are in relationships, including truly ugly, obese and deformed people.