Negative Nancy Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Why is it that women want the perfect looking man that'll make her the envy of her circle of friends? Yeah, like men don't want the hot arm candy they can show off to their friends Men are even worse than women because in reality they want a "hot" girl but will settle for the average woman who they will never appreciate as much as hot girl. And they will always lust after the hot ones. What woman really wants that? 1
Negative Nancy Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) Where are Miley Cirus male groupies? Where are Serena Williams male groupies? Yeah, and the reason for that? They are not HOT enough. Let's not pretend men aren't groupies of those two because of any "higher moral" reasons. Megan Fox had TONS of males raving and ranting about her, they were just as much groupies as those women are for Ronaldo. Get a porn star to the local mall of a small town and you will witness men tripping over themselves and fighting each other just to get the best view. Those faces of men that you always see in those snapshots where they stand around with their mouth open, eyes popping out and their cameras says more than your predictable words of denial ever will. Gross Edited July 31, 2012 by Negative Nancy 1
Woggle Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 I had lunch with my friend yesterday who just had a daughter and she freely told me how she "settled". She was talking about how she was in love with her ex for years, who didn't want to commit. So she met her current H and she wasn't that attracted to him. I assumed that attraction grew in time but she just laughed "Oh no, I am definitely not in love with him and never have been." I dunno she seems happy enough and she is certainly faithful. She is very honest about her life and she says she never even looks at other men, that she is too busy working and being a mother. When I saw them together, the only thing that was obvious is that she is lot more physically attractive than him. Other than that, they seemed content and affectionate. What a lucky guy he is.
Emilia Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 What a lucky guy he is. She won't be able to keep it going forever
Woggle Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 She won't be able to keep it going forever I meant that sarcastically. This is why men have to be really sure that the woman they are marrying is in love with them. 1
Radu Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 I had lunch with my friend yesterday who just had a daughter and she freely told me how she "settled". She was talking about how she was in love with her ex for years, who didn't want to commit. So she met her current H and she wasn't that attracted to him. I assumed that attraction grew in time but she just laughed "Oh no, I am definitely not in love with him and never have been." I dunno she seems happy enough and she is certainly faithful. She is very honest about her life and she says she never even looks at other men, that she is too busy working and being a mother. When I saw them together, the only thing that was obvious is that she is lot more physically attractive than him. Other than that, they seemed content and affectionate. Pls don't settle for us girls. I think one of the reasons some modern women can't settle is because they have been told never to settle, that it is better for them to find their perfect prince charming. So they keep looking, trying to find that special someone, and without knowing life hits them with the realisation that they are 40 and they have no-one while the men they broke up with are in a commited relationship. Sucks ... for them.
udolipixie Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 I doubt women generally are resolute in refusing to settle for a man within her league as it seems most couples are within the same range lookswise. I highly doubt most men are willing to date below their league if the woman is super nice considering how it's unlikely he would have gotten to know she's super nice as he wouldn't have approached her if he found her lacking. In my experience women settle more often than men due to aging, fertility, hope attraction will grow, using him as a sperm donor/atim, and giving a guy a chance if he's nice while men hold out for what they want. 4
ascendotum Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 What a lucky guy he is. If ES has a bunch of friends who settled and her last relationship was a case of settling I can see why she finds it disconcerting. I look at some of the guys I know who I suspect their partners settled for, and its a put off. If her gf is happy enough even though she does not love the guy, then from her perspective then thats her choice and she is obviously fine with making it. If this info never got back to her bf/husband and she treated him well...devoted, affectionate, enjoyed regular sex, no moodiness, backed him over issues, pet names, didn't look for hunky guy on the side, etc then from his perspective its a good union. Its more than just a working partnership to raise a baby and share costs. (well from his perspective anyway). Ignorance is bliss in that case. It would be devastating to be told. For some of the guys I know who I suspect their partner 'settled' for in mid 30s and quickly had a baby, their woman, never seems affectionate & ignores advances, she is moody & irratable often and uses that to manipulate the guy imo, and she criticizes the guy a fair bit. Their child is so obviously her no.1 in life. If more people these days have higher expectations in life and subsequently in a partner and also have a lot more partners and build up a mind set that they want all the good things from the past exs with none of the bad things, then there is going to be more 'oh what the hell I guess this is the best I can do' unions like these.
todreaminblue Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 I doubt women generally are resolute in refusing to settle for a man within her league as it seems most couples are within the same range lookswise. I highly doubt most men are willing to date below their league if the woman is super nice considering how it's unlikely he would have gotten to know she's super nice as he wouldn't have approached her if he found her lacking. In my experience women settle more often than men due to aging, fertility, hope attraction will grow, using him as a sperm donor/atim, and giving a guy a chance if he's nice while men hold out for what they want. are you serious about the sperm donor thing, you have to be kidding right?
udolipixie Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 are you serious about the sperm donor thing, you have to be kidding right? Serious. Quite unsure why you'd think I'm kidding seeing as how there are women who marry solely or mainly for money and men who stay in relationships solely for the sex.
todreaminblue Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Serious. Quite unsure why you'd think I'm kidding seeing as how there are women who marry solely or mainly for money and men who stay in relationships solely for the sex. Children .....oh i give up...i respect your opinion but I feel children bought up in a one sided love are going to be twisted.....have a good night ....deb
udolipixie Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Children .....oh i give up...i respect your opinion but I feel children bought up in a one sided love are going to be twisted.....have a good night ....deb Quite unsure what opinion you're respecting as I haven't made any opinions on women using men as sperm donors I just stated there are women who do so.
ThaWholigan Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 I don't blame him, I'd tap me too jk, he doesn't even know how I look like so probably not. If everyone knew how you looked, everyone would want to tap But I do So do I
xxoo Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 She is very honest about her life and she says she never even looks at other men, that she is too busy working and being a mother. Kids grow. She won't always be so busy, and then what? A woman in love has not settled. Average people fall in love with other average people all the time. When in love, there is no one "better".
Leopard Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Do you have any examples of women that settled? Umm...every single girl I know. Including myself. No, women and gay men are the reason women are objectified by the media and fashion industry. Do you really think straight guys are the ones talking about how X celebrity looks or are designing clothes? Where did you get fashion from? No one is talking about fashion. And YES all I hear on here is "You better be a Jessica Alba if you want a man like that. You better look like Jessica Biel if that's the kind of guy you're looking for." It's ALL I hear from men when a woman says she wants a man with X qualities. Men keep emphasizing that if a girl wants a guy with looks and money, she better be HOT. That's the entire debate on here. Even in this thread. "A 6 woman won't date a 6 man, she dates "up". It's all about rating how hot a woman is, and even if she is a shallow b!tch, only a HOT girl can get a great guy because apparently looks are what make her worth the trouble. So yes, men are the reason women are objectified. You don't see women magazines putting half naked women in bikinis on their cover with the subtitle "10 sex tips". 2
Leopard Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 A woman in love has not settled. Average people fall in love with other average people all the time. When in love, there is no one "better". This isn't true. I loved my ex alot, and still love him today. But I left him because there were far better men out there, men like my current bf who actually know how to respect and treat a woman right. Even when I was in a relationship with my ex I knew there was better out there. And I was right.
Emilia Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) So they keep looking, trying to find that special someone, and without knowing life hits them with the realisation that they are 40 and they have no-one while the men they broke up with are in a commited relationship. Sucks ... for them. Perhaps. You have to work out who you are and what you need. Other people's relationships are meaningless. Some of my exes have settled down but that doesn't make me wish we were still together because exes are exes for a reason. Edited July 31, 2012 by Emilia
Woggle Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Umm...every single girl I know. Including myself. Where did you get fashion from? No one is talking about fashion. And YES all I hear on here is "You better be a Jessica Alba if you want a man like that. You better look like Jessica Biel if that's the kind of guy you're looking for." It's ALL I hear from men when a woman says she wants a man with X qualities. Men keep emphasizing that if a girl wants a guy with looks and money, she better be HOT. That's the entire debate on here. Even in this thread. "A 6 woman won't date a 6 man, she dates "up". It's all about rating how hot a woman is, and even if she is a shallow b!tch, only a HOT girl can get a great guy because apparently looks are what make her worth the trouble. So yes, men are the reason women are objectified. You don't see women magazines putting half naked women in bikinis on their cover with the subtitle "10 sex tips". Honestly it's only fair to be able to deliver the same things you demand in others. That goes for men as well. Why should9 or 10 man settle for anything below that when he can get a 9 or 10 woman? You say that you judge men on looks and money so should a woman not be able to deliver the same? I am not that shallow but shallow people should not complain when they are judge by their own standards.
Negative Nancy Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 I meant that sarcastically. This is why men have to be really sure that the woman they are marrying is in love with them. Women have to be sure too, in fact even moreso, because as we can see men settle far more often than women do, but secretly wish they could be with the hotter ones. Even in this thread. "A 6 woman won't date a 6 man, she dates "up". It's all about rating how hot a woman is, and even if she is a shallow b!tch, only a HOT girl can get a great guy because apparently looks are what make her worth the trouble. So yes, men are the reason women are objectified. You don't see women magazines putting half naked women in bikinis on their cover with the subtitle "10 sex tips". Exactly. One can say with certainty that men make the world a shallow place.
Woggle Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Women have to be sure too, in fact even moreso, because as we can see men settle far more often than women do, but secretly wish they could be with the hotter ones. Exactly. One can say with certainty that men make the world a shallow place. Isn't she just as shallow as the men she is talking about?
xxoo Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 This isn't true. I loved my ex alot, and still love him today. But I left him because there were far better men out there, men like my current bf who actually know how to respect and treat a woman right. Even when I was in a relationship with my ex I knew there was better out there. And I was right. Ok, when a woman is in love with a decent man, there is not "better". I don't understand how a woman falls in love with a man who doesn't know how to respect and treat a woman right. What's to fall in love with?
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 Ok, when a woman is in love with a decent man, there is not "better". The idea of "better" options has been bugging me all weekend. I was watching some old classic movies, which I love. Sure, they are fantasies, like all fiction. But I was reminded of the way I really feel … the way I was when I was growing up, and the way my friends were, and still are. When we love someone - that's the way it is. There is something about them … we love. It is special, it is individual to them. When that connection catches, something grows and a deep and big bond is formed. Yes, love can die or be irreparably damaged; people can succumb to temptations and stray. But the concept of "there might be someone BETTER"? Or, "The man I have is a "7" and I think I can get, and deserve, at least a "9"? Those concepts are light years away from my reality, at my current old age, just as when I was a teenager. Yes, there are those who think that there is always something better around any corner. I perceive that to be quite a burden for that person to bear, and to be, in fact, a serious character flaw that will damage their life. I don't think it's the norm at all, for men or for women. 2
Woggle Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 The idea of "better" options has been bugging me all weekend. I was watching some old classic movies, which I love. Sure, they are fantasies, like all fiction. But I was reminded of the way I really feel … the way I was when I was growing up, and the way my friends were, and still are. When we love someone - that's the way it is. There is something about them … we love. It is special, it is individual to them. When that connection catches, something grows and a deep and big bond is formed. Yes, love can die or be irreparably damaged; people can succumb to temptations and stray. But the concept of "there might be someone BETTER"? Or, "The man I have is a "7" and I think I can get, and deserve, at least a "9"? Those concepts are light years away from my reality, at my current old age, just as when I was a teenager. Yes, there are those who think that there is always something better around any corner. I perceive that to be quite a burden for that person to bear, and to be, in fact, a serious character flaw that will damage their life. I don't think it's the norm at all, for men or for women. Which is why I sometimes believe I was born in the wrong era. Listen to some music on the radio and notice the common themes in the lyrics. Even people like Adele who dare to show human emotion in their music sing about heartbreak. 1
Leopard Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Honestly it's only fair to be able to deliver the same things you demand in others. That goes for men as well. Why should9 or 10 man settle for anything below that when he can get a 9 or 10 woman? You say that you judge men on looks and money so should a woman not be able to deliver the same? I am not that shallow but shallow people should not complain when they are judge by their own standards. I totally agree. But just because a person can get a 9 or 10 mate, doesn't mean they WILL. There are so few 9 or 10 people out there, that there's no point in being single just because they exist. These hot people date "down" because they have no other choice. Ok, when a woman is in love with a decent man, there is not "better". I don't understand how a woman falls in love with a man who doesn't know how to respect and treat a woman right. What's to fall in love with? You can't control who you love. T Yes, there are those who think that there is always something better around any corner. I perceive that to be quite a burden for that person to bear, and to be, in fact, a serious character flaw that will damage their life. Yes. I agree completely. One is never satisfied if they think there is always something better out there.
Woggle Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 I don't understand the you can't control who you love thing. I was head over heels in love with my ex on our wedding day but after everything that happened she downright disgusted me. A person's actions and character should factor into how you feel about them. 1
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