madjac74 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I love this man and his use of oversized words. No homo. Nice! A baseball analogy! I love it
USMCHokie Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 For sex? Sure, for dating? Absolutely not And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is what women have most difficulty with in dating. Generally speaking, men associate "dating" with sex, especially when they're younger. So if a woman can get sex, then men perceive that she must have an incredibly easy time with "dating." However, women generally associate dating with commitment and all that goodness. As stated above, that is often an arduous, if not impossible, task. Again, I speak generally. 2
DreamerDeceiver Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 With any due respect, you are simply not qualified to address this subject from the point of view of those finding themselves slowed by it. Getting slowed by it might be the first problem... the fact is when you feel the fear, you either do it or you don't... make a move, or not (and regret it.) I love this man and his use of oversized words. Exactly, when you look at things in that way you just add stress to your own life, when in fact there's nothing to over-analyze or intellecualize at all when it comes to approaching women. Just being real here. Rejection is NOT a necessary part of the dating game if you just manage it and manage yourself properly. Just walk away if it's not going well *Applause*
madjac74 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 If you just ask the other person whether or not they have a GF/BF and only ask out the ones who are giving you a good reaction, you'll never get rejected Just being real here. Rejection is NOT a necessary part of the dating game if you just manage it and manage yourself properly. Just walk away if it's not going well I don't think rejection is what I'm worried about. I'm a fairly confident man and have approached my share of women but sometimes there are those girls that just have you baffled as what to do. A lot of it depends on the situation. Such as you are with friends and they are with friends...you really open yourself to looking like a douche
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 For sex? Sure, for dating? Absolutely not Which is where the point of dating for men and women tends to differ... for the most part. Not always the case, but I see it more often than not. And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is what women have most difficulty with in dating. Generally speaking, men associate "dating" with sex, especially when they're younger. So if a woman can get sex, then men perceive that she must have an incredibly easy time with "dating." However, women generally associate dating with commitment and all that goodness. As stated above, that is often an arduous, if not impossible, task. Again, I speak generally. Exactlyyyyy.
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is what women have most difficulty with in dating. Generally speaking, men associate "dating" with sex, especially when they're younger. So if a woman can get sex, then men perceive that she must have an incredibly easy time with "dating." However, women generally associate dating with commitment and all that goodness. As stated above, that is often an arduous, if not impossible, task. Again, I speak generally. Dating is just as difficult for both genders. No doubt
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 Rejection for me tends to happen AFTER the first date. If I counted the times I had great dates that after sleeping together I never heard from again... you would all see that I kinda sorta know what it is like... In some sucky way. I would rather they just say no upfront.
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I don't think rejection is what I'm worried about. I'm a fairly confident man and have approached my share of women but sometimes there are those girls that just have you baffled as what to do. A lot of it depends on the situation. Such as you are with friends and they are with friends...you really open yourself to looking like a douche Just focus your best effort on making a good connection. If that's not there, don't ask her out Easy solution to the whole rejection problem really
USMCHokie Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Dating is just as difficult for both genders. No doubt Hmmmm....you are damn lucky you edited out the second line in the above post.... But since I took the time to actually look for these and just in case you remember what you wrote: Even though she claims she hits on men, an attractive woman hitting on a man compared to a regular guy hitting on an attractive woman...well it's like benchpressing 135 LBs compared to benchpressing 400 LBs Sure you're technically doing the same things in both times, but one is a hell of a lot easier But you, as a pretty young woman, approaching men in the dating game is like playing the game on not just easy mode, but retard easy mode with every cheat code activated. You could say anything and guys will be flattered and it will work great because they're so shocked that any girl approached them, much less an attractive one. The guys on here who are average looking or worse are playing the game on hard mode. It's just a world of difference The point is that being a beautiful young 23 year old woman, you could have the personality of a cardboard box and the social skills of a special education child on crack and still have phenomenal success That's like somebody playing Madden on rookie mode with all the sliders all the way down for the easiest difficulty and claiming they're a pro for dominating the game at that Unless you're borderline retarded, you should be a pro at dating when you are pretty and young as you are. I'm completely on board with the people who want to say that dating is ridiculously easy for attractive women...
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Hmmmm....you are damn lucky you edited out the second line in the above post.... I said that dating is equally difficult for both genders as a whole Dating for extremely attractive women is obviously very easy but that's maybe 20% of the female population. That's what I've said all along
USMCHokie Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Rejection for me tends to happen AFTER the first date. If I counted the times I had great dates that after sleeping together I never heard from again... you would all see that I kinda sorta know what it is like... In some sucky way. Or you could say no before the first date...you have said numerous times that you like to date and go on many dates with many different guys. What you mention above is simply par for the course. If you date a lot of guys, then you're inherently gonna have more rejections after the first date. Imagine a shallow funnel with a very wide opening that quickly narrows into a small opening...that's how I analogize your dating life as you portray it...you date a lot of guys very briefly and find it hard to get the one who goes all the way through the funnel... Have you considered being more selective in who you give a chance to? There's being open to dating people, which is good, but there's also being too open to dating people...
USMCHokie Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I said that dating is equally difficult for both genders as a whole No, you definitely said something else about people who thought dating was easier for one gender than the other...but you chose to edit it out...smart move...
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 No, you definitely said something else about people who thought dating was easier for one gender than the other...but you chose to edit it out...smart move... Not at all. I've never said that dating is easy for fat girls or average girls
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 Or you could say no before the first date...you have said numerous times that you like to date and go on many dates with many different guys. What you mention above is simply par for the course. If you date a lot of guys, then you're inherently gonna have more rejections after the first date. Imagine a shallow funnel with a very wide opening that quickly narrows into a small opening...that's how I analogize your dating life as you portray it...you date a lot of guys very briefly and find it hard to get the one who goes all the way through the funnel... Have you considered being more selective in who you give a chance to? There's being open to dating people, which is good, but there's also being too open to dating people... But that is the thing though... I don't mind. You are definitely right when it comes down to it, im just not one to complain about it. I like dating a lot, one thing I have changed though is when I choose to sleep with them though.
LittlePrince Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 "Why are poor people poor? It is like get a job already lol." as heard in the auditorium of the Country Bear Jamboree This topic has a strong, uncanny resemblance to that intellectually enlightened discourse.
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 Not at all. I've never said that dating is easy for fat girls or average girls I find your comments in this thread to be interesting... considering the fact that a lot of your threads are why I started THIS one.
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I find your comments in this thread to be interesting... considering the fact that a lot of your threads are why I started THIS one. I appreciate the sentiment and I definitely admire the fact that you put in the work what you do. I also agree with your general logic. What I'm really doing in this thread is disagreeing with your views as it relates to the average guy posting on LS Truth be told, I'm good looking in real life myself and I play the dating game on easy mode too (not on retard easy mode with all the cheat codes activated, like you play on but in the same ballpark). I have failed that because I had a f*cked up childhood which horribly stunted my development and left me one incredibly insecure man when it comes to dating but I fully take responsibility for all that
jobaba Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I see so many threads asking about how to approach "girls" and I have to say that I don't get why men complicate it so much. Actually ... it is complicated. I've spent over 10 years in the NYC, SF, and LA (to a lesser extent) bar, club, and house party scenes, and most guys don't just waltz into random bars and start talking up random gals and expect success. It's a process. Most guys after a few years, find a scene that has 1) the type of women they are attracted to and 2) the type of women they feel they will have the best chance with. In other words, some little skinny white dude isn't going to be hitting up the 40/40 club night after night if he wants success. I'd advise guys to take a 4 to 5 year window to try and establish how they do in the bar/club/house party scene. Try and find your niche: hipster, trashy, clubs, black, Asian, etc. After that window, you will find what scene gives you the highest probability for success. A couple of my friends found their niche. I never did. A lot also depends on looks (obvious). I have been rejected close to 200 times over the years. I have another buddy (married now) who had BALLS of STEEL. He could go up to the two hottest women in the bar and just chat away. He has been rejected by at least 500 women. I also have a co-worker who walked into two different bars on two different nights in a strange city and got a handful of phone numbers, took home a girl one night, and was made the judge of a booty shaking contest the next night. Did I also mention a co-worker of ours I really liked would totally have let the same guy have his way with her? Most of the guys on LS asking for dating advice are probably average looking guys. If you're a good enough looking guy, things have a way of working themselves out. For average guys, the odds are a lot lower. Below average, it goes down much lower. Find your chance of probability and decide whether it's worth it for you to use bars/clubs/cold approach as a viable option...
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 edit: to my last post. Truth be told, I'm good looking in real life myself and I play the dating game on easy mode too (not on retard easy mode with all the cheat codes activated, like you play on but in the same ballpark). I have failed that because I had a f*cked up childhood which horribly stunted my development and left me one incredibly insecure man when it comes to dating but I fully take responsibility for all that. There is no reason for me not to be successful with women, I'm just f*cked up in the head or at least have been for most of my life
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Actually ... it is complicated. I've spent over 10 years in the NYC, SF, and LA (to a lesser extent) bar, club, and house party scenes, and most guys don't just waltz into random bars and start talking up random gals and expect success. It's a process. Most guys after a few years, find a scene that has 1) the type of women they are attracted to and 2) the type of women they feel they will have the best chance with. In other words, some little skinny white dude isn't going to be hitting up the 40/40 club night after night if he wants success. I'd advise guys to take a 4 to 5 year window to try and establish how they do in the bar/club/house party scene. Try and find your niche: hipster, trashy, clubs, black, Asian, etc. After that window, you will find what scene gives you the highest probability for success. A couple of my friends found their niche. I never did. A lot also depends on looks (obvious). I have been rejected close to 200 times over the years. I have another buddy (married now) who had BALLS of STEEL. He could go up to the two hottest women in the bar and just chat away. He has been rejected by at least 500 women. I also have a co-worker who walked into two different bars on two different nights in a strange city and got a handful of phone numbers, took home a girl one night, and was made the judge of a booty shaking contest the next night. Did I also mention a co-worker of ours I really liked would totally have let the same guy have his way with her? Most of the guys on LS asking for dating advice are probably average looking guys. If you're a good enough looking guy, things have a way of working themselves out. For average guys, the odds are a lot lower. Below average, it goes down much lower. Find your chance of probability and decide whether it's worth it for you to use bars/clubs/cold approach as a viable option... I think a lot of average joe dating problems is because guys try to bat out of their league. Most of the time, unless you have amazing social skills, a 5 male is not going to date a 9 female. A 9/10 female wants a 9/10 male and vice versa
MrCastle Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 If you're cold approaching, even if you're good looking, you're going to get blown out a majority of the time. That's just the way it is. I've been apart of some PUA sites where guys post journals, and approach like 100 women within a month's time and get 15-20 numbers, and then out of those 15-20, maybe one or two lead to actual dates. Studies have shown time and time again that you meet people through your social circle. When you approach someone in the street, you're approaching them based solely on physical attraction. You have no clue what those people are like; how often do you expect it will work out in your favor? If men on here that are unsuccessful with women would spend more time fleshing out a personality, developing hobbies, expanding their social circle, they would do infinitely better in the dating world. I still have yet, at 24, to hear of any one of my friends meeting a girl through a cold approach. Unless you count bars and clubs, where socializing is encouraged. But I'm talking about walking up to a woman on the street and getting her number. None of my successful friends have done this. Not a single one. 2
MrCastle Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Ah, 'bout time you showed up to the party... Thanks. Glad to be here.
Lonely Ronin Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Thanks. Glad to be here. Lol, this song is the first thing that came to mind when I read your response.
MrCastle Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Lol, this song is the first thing that came to mind when I read your response. I'd like to think of this song being played anytime you see a post of mine. The Black Keys- Mind Eraser - YouTube It's my theme song. I wish it could play anytime I entered a room.
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