madjac74 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 As I said, I don't look as pretty with no makeup, I don't look horrible... but that isn't the ****ing point! The point is that I HAVE been rejected, I have approached someone out of the blue and tried to make something happen hoping it wouldn't be weird. The key thing I do? Act like they are NOT out of my league. Our ucking point is that it is entirely different for a women to approach a man as it is for a man to approach a woman! 1
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 I love confidence in a man, sure, not all of them I give a chance, but the ones that come off GENUINE are the ones who have the biggest chance.
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Say what you want, but I am actually quite charming Absolutely, you come off charming here The point is that being a beautiful young 23 year old woman, you could have the personality of a cardboard box and the social skills of a special education child on crack and still have phenomenal success 1
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 Our ucking point is that it is entirely different for a women to approach a man as it is for a man to approach a woman! I can accept that, but as I said, I have been on both ends, so at least take my stance on what is appreciated from a woman into consideration.
ptp Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 As I said, I don't look as pretty with no makeup, I don't look horrible... but that isn't the ****ing point! The point is that I HAVE been rejected, I have approached someone out of the blue and tried to make something happen hoping it wouldn't be weird. The key thing I do? Act like they are NOT out of my league. I don't believe you, what guy could say no to those eyes? I understand that you have been rejected, but don't you also get asked out on many dates? So lets say for every 1 rejection maybe you have 9 positive experiences in dating? Now think about it if you were to invert that ratio and for ever 1 girl that says yes you have 9 women say no. Taking those shots to your self-esteem and bouncing right back isn't the easiest thing to do.
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I can accept that, but as I said, I have been on both ends, so at least take my stance on what is appreciated from a woman into consideration. We all appreciate the fact that you do actually approach men, that's fantastic Still, your experiences aren't any more valuable than a kid born into a billionaire family who says that making money is easy
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 Absolutely, you come off charming here The point is that being a beautiful young 23 year old woman, you could have the personality of a cardboard box and the social skills of a special education child on crack and still have phenomenal success OMG. I am really trying to keep my looks out of it... I can't prove it, but I CAN look haggard. The point is, I have, and I used my personality and own skills to at least TRY to get a guy to give me a chance.
Cracker Jack Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 At the end of the day, guys will either get accustomed to approaching women or not. That's what it comes down to. Some will justify their lack of (I don't want to bother her, I'm too ugly, too short, acne, etc) approaching, while others will take it upon themselves to get around their nagging fears and actually give it a chance. I'm ass when it comes to approaching, I think, but I know if I want to get better, it's something I have to continue doing. Besides, being afraid of rejection in itself grows tiring after a while. 1
USMCHokie Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Say what you want, but I am actually quite charming. I have a girl next door vibe that works for me. If a guy did that, used a cheesy line, or was charming, or started asking me what I did for work in a kind manner... all of them I would giggle at. All of them are different ways, all of them natural to different men.... as I said, I am just saying that not ONE way is right, and that the best way to go about it is to just GO for it. I never questioned your charm. I only stated that it probably had absolutely nothing to do with that group of guys initially letting you into their little club. Once you're in though, it's a completely different matter, in which your charm and personality will determine whether you get a number or a date.
rocketman122 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I have to say that I don't get why men complicate it so much. THIS: -They act like they don't want to talk to you? Take the rejection and move on to the next one. Its embarrasing to get shot down and have to walk away with your tail between your legs. the key is to not care so damn much! Easier said than done..
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 I don't believe you, what guy could say no to those eyes? I understand that you have been rejected, but don't you also get asked out on many dates? So lets say for every 1 rejection maybe you have 9 positive experiences in dating? Now think about it if you were to invert that ratio and for ever 1 girl that says yes you have 9 women say no. Taking those shots to your self-esteem and bouncing right back isn't the easiest thing to do. That poses a whole different discussion in my head, mostly because it just makes me wonder if that one person is more bound to lead to something serious... I date a lot... but out of all the dating I do, a small small percentage works out.
USMCHokie Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 OMG. I am really trying to keep my looks out of it... Even if you do, can you keep your gender out of it...? I'm not knocking your theory, as I think every guy can learn from it, but it will lack credibility for a large percentage of the male population because you're not a man. You can't empathize with men because you've never experienced being a man. You can really only speculate about it... You think a woman will listen to me about the rigors of childbirth...?
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 [/i] Its embarrasing to get shot down and have to walk away with your tail between your legs. Don't ask out a girl who you're not getting a strong response from 99% of rejections are guys who are too stupid to understand easy body language cues. If a girl is giving you short responses with no enthusiasm and showing no real excitement or energy for talking to you, you're going to get rejected You can wipe out rejection pretty much all the way by focusing on making a strong connection and only asking out girls where there is that connection/chemistry 1
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 I never questioned your charm. I only stated that it probably had absolutely nothing to do with that group of guys initially letting you into their little club. Once you're in though, it's a completely different matter, in which your charm and personality will determine whether you get a number or a date. I don't give them a chance to NOT give me a chance. I sit down, I introduce myself and I TALK. Maybe I am just a pro at this sorta thing. Seriously though, if their girlfriends had walked back and asked for their seats back? I would have gotten up, and assessed the situation. Whether that meant I felt I could joke with the women and introduce myself and befriend them, or even if that means just walking away...
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 Even if you do, can you keep your gender out of it...? I'm not knocking your theory, as I think every guy can learn from it, but it will lack credibility for a large percentage of the male population because you're not a man. You can't empathize with men because you've never experienced being a man. You can really only speculate about it... You think a woman will listen to me about the rigors of childbirth...? Stop outsmarting me with your man brain hokie....
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Maybe I am just a pro at this sorta thing. /facepalm That's like somebody playing Madden on rookie mode with all the sliders all the way down for the easiest difficulty and claiming they're a pro for dominating the game at that Unless you're borderline retarded, you should be a pro at dating when you are pretty and young as you are.
USMCHokie Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I don't give them a chance to NOT give me a chance. I sit down, I introduce myself and I TALK. Maybe I am just a pro at this sorta thing. Seriously though, if their girlfriends had walked back and asked for their seats back? I would have gotten up, and assessed the situation. Whether that meant I felt I could joke with the women and introduce myself and befriend them, or even if that means just walking away... Check. Got it. Now take everything you've said, and instead of you being a girl, be a guy. Play through the entire scenario...do you honestly think you'd get the same result? Again, I would say that your advice is sound; be proactive and create your chances with women. However, you logic and reasoning in getting there probably wouldn't do much for the men here, which is why you're getting so much flak for it. You can't expect to come in, tell us a story about how you, as a woman, approached a group of men, chatted them up, and got a date out of it, and then expect men to believe it's easy breezy CoverGirl, just like that... 1
madjac74 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 OMG. I am really trying to keep my looks out of it... I can't prove it, but I CAN look haggard. The point is, I have, and I used my personality and own skills to at least TRY to get a guy to give me a chance. It's not even your looks. It is the fact that you are a vagina...haha sorry that sounds bad! But my point is that guys are hit on less than women. It is generally the mans "job". So you are going to have far more success because you are a dominant vagina than the 100 other dominant penis's?? running around hitting on girls.
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 It's not even your looks. It is the fact that you are a vagina...haha sorry that sounds bad! But my point is that guys are hit on less than women. It is generally the mans "job". So you are going to have far more success because you are a dominant vagina than the 100 other dominant penis's?? running around hitting on girls. I don't agree with you on that at all. If she gained 80 LBs and tried to hit on guys as a fatty, she would have horrible success I'm completely on board with the people who want to say that dating is ridiculously easy for attractive women but the unattractive ones and fatties? absolutely not
Author miss_jaclynrae Posted July 30, 2012 Author Posted July 30, 2012 Check. Got it. Now take everything you've said, and instead of you being a girl, be a guy. Play through the entire scenario...do you honestly think you'd get the same result? Again, I would say that your advice is sound; be proactive and create your chances with women. However, you logic and reasoning in getting there probably wouldn't do much for the men here, which is why you're getting so much flak for it. You can't expect to come in, tell us a story about how you, as a woman, approached a group of men, chatted them up, and got a date out of it, and then expect men to believe it's easy breezy CoverGirl, just like that... I will let it be then. It obviously is easier for me... still... I have had men do to me what I did, and I gave them a chance. PS. Rejection does suck, but if you stop caring and move on to the next one faster, it ends up being FAR easier to swallow.
madjac74 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I don't agree with you on that at all. If she gained 80 LBs and tried to hit on guys as a fatty, she would have horrible success I'm completely on board with the people who want to say that dating is ridiculously easy for attractive women but the unattractive ones and fatties? absolutely not I dont agree. An average woman can have much success for the simple fact that she has a vagina and there are a great deal of men who would lower their standards
SincereOnlineGuy Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I see so many threads asking about how to approach "girls" and I have to say that I don't get why men complicate it so much. -It isn't rocket science, see someone you want to get to know? Talk to them. -They act like they don't want to talk to you? Take the rejection and move on to the next one. -She keeps talking? Ask her for her number. -She doesn't give you her number? Move on. I like to think it is best to use what you got. We can tell when you are forcing it or trying to be something you aren't. We will let you know if we are interested. You may all jump on me now and go on about how easy it is being a woman and blah blah blah... but truth is I get rejected too, the key is to not care so damn much! With any due respect, you are simply not qualified to address this subject from the point of view of those finding themselves slowed by it. One who knows she is going to get the equivalent of 4000 plate appearances during a season surely isn't going to care so damn much about any one of them. Furthermore, when Murderers Row is batting behind you, you'll no doubt see the very best pitches. The reports and encouragement we want from you involve your sharing stories of social experiences during which you stepped outside of the friendly confines of those social arenas which guarantee you so many at-bats, and instead stopped to take interest in the rest of humanity to a point where you could actually relate to the subject on which you attempt to pontificate. We don't need the understanding which reminds us that your "using what you got" is what in your mind qualifies you for preaching to others despite their not sharing your blessings. PS - this has very little to do with your merely "being a woman" and everything to do with your seeming lack of awareness relating to your, um, individuality.
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 I dont agree. An average woman can have much success for the simple fact that she has a vagina and there are a great deal of men who would lower their standards For sex? Sure, for dating? Absolutely not
USMCHokie Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 With any due respect, you are simply not qualified to address this subject from the point of view of those finding themselves slowed by it. One who knows she is going to get the equivalent of 4000 plate appearances during a season surely isn't going to care so damn much about any one of them. Furthermore, when Murderers Row is batting behind you, you'll no doubt see the very best pitches. The reports and encouragement we want from you involve your sharing stories of social experiences during which you stepped outside of the friendly confines of those social arenas which guarantee you so many at-bats, and instead stopped to take interest in the rest of humanity to a point where you could actually relate to the subject on which you attempt to pontificate. We don't need the understanding which reminds us that your "using what you got" is what in your mind qualifies you for preaching to others despite their not sharing your blessings. PS - this has very little to do with your merely "being a woman" and everything to do with your seeming lack of awareness relating to your, um, individuality. I love this man and his use of oversized words. No homo.
brahmabull117 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 PS. Rejection does suck, but if you stop caring and move on to the next one faster, it ends up being FAR easier to swallow. If you just ask the other person whether or not they have a GF/BF and only ask out the ones who are giving you a good reaction, you'll never get rejected Just being real here. Rejection is NOT a necessary part of the dating game if you just manage it and manage yourself properly. Just walk away if it's not going well 1
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