Seems like one woman just can't satisfy me, I need two =(

[Dafa]

I need a wife in order to procreate and raise children. I bring to the table my healthy desirable genes, financial stability, fun and exciting lifestyle... pretty much anything the wife can dream of as long as she's down to date hot young girls with me.

 

I wonder how would you react if your wife would make you a similar demand as the one you are making to her, i.e.: "Seems like one man cannot satisfy me, i need two". I'm very curious as to how would you react... If you truly have no problems with threesomes, then 2 men + 1 woman shouldn't be a problem, right?

 

And another thing i'm curious about is do you actually need to do threesomes, or do you just need to have someone on the side? This makes the dynamics of the relationship you are seeking somewhat different.

 

From what i hear there's some people who simply have open relationships. Wouldn't this suit you? Pay heed you would have to tolerate a similar behaviour to yours from the other side...

 

Regardless, as a previous poster said, as long as you are upfront about it and are not missleading anyone, go for it. From the looks of your posts, if there's something people cannot criticize you for is honesty.

[Dusk1983]

You must be joking. It's a full time job keeping one woman happy, and life is way, way too short as it is.

[mickleb]

I need a wife in order to procreate and raise children. I bring to the table my healthy desirable genes, financial stability, fun and exciting lifestyle... pretty much anything the wife can dream of as long as she's down to date hot young girls with me.

 

I know this is going to sound unnecessarily critical but, truly, I'm saying this to further discuss the possible problems with your plan, as I see it. So bear with me, if you can.

 

What you offer as a husband, to my ears, is very little. What most women want from a husband is emotional security (for themselves and their children). You may have healthy genes but I don't see an appealing sense of humour coming across in your words. I don't see a sparkling intellect. If I'm feeling crappy one day, I can't see your offer doing much for me. I don't know you but, so far, I don't get it.

 

I did say 'most' women, of course. And you're looking for someone very specific. From your description of what you can offer, I'd say you'd be better of with a gold-digger who will fulfil your sexual wishes because she likes the lifestyle attached to it. I think you may have found a few partners who wanted to please you (I guess you're pretty hot and loaded?? and that can do it for a bit for young girls who haven't really thought about what they need from life, for a bit) but then found it didn't work for them.

 

It is really NOT a healthy situation to raise a child in. It sounds like you want kids but have zero idea of what they need, or of how to be a decent dad. Like you want them because you want your genes to get passed on, not for any other reason. I mean, how many times are you planning on having the girlfriend visit? A couple of times a year? When you have kids, you're supposed to want to have weekends with them, aren't you?

 

Having threesomes with consensual partners is not wrong but, as others have said, it is extremely complicated. Having a child is the biggest commitment you can ever make. What you have had a taste of is not the lifestyle you have in your head. If you think I'm wrong - genuinely - good luck. Come back to LS in 20 years and tell us how you did it! But I think the term 'unicorn' is a mythical reference for a reason, and that you have no idea what work is ahead of you!

 

(Once again - I hope you can take all this in the spirit it's meant.)

[SoleMate]

Kids don't need to know anything until they are old enough to understand, 17-18. Obviously we don't plan to have a threesome in front of the them and the girlfriend doesn't live with us lol. We can have threesomes on weekends at hotels or go away on vacation with our girlfriend, etc. I don't think this will honestly be an issue whatsoever.

It isn't realistic to believe that you can take off twice a week to a hotel leaving young children at home. Even if you have the greatest nanny in the world you're still negelecting them.

 

While your wife is pregnant and caring for young children, expect her to change to a nesting status and away from wanting MFF with the young gf. Jealousy is inevitable at that time.

[stillafool]

I need a wife in order to procreate and raise children. I bring to the table my healthy desirable genes, financial stability, fun and exciting lifestyle... pretty much anything the wife can dream of as long as she's down to date hot young girls with me.

 

You don't need a wife in order to procreate and raise children! You can still have children as long as you can afford someone to take care of them. Why do you need to bring a wife into it? You can have kids and not have sex with the mother of those kids if you choose not to. That way you can live across town and rotate women like a ferris wheel. There are so many options for the life you want without bringing a wife into it. You really don't deserve a wife and you know it.

[The Way I Am]

Eventually as the wife gets older and loses interest in sex,

 

:lmao::lmao:

 

I think you mean looses interest in sex with YOU. The reason women lose interest in sex with their husbands as they get older is because the relationship deteriorates and neither try to seduce the other anymore. It's not because women lose interest in sex as they get older.

 

For your arrangement to work, you may have to allow and accept the woman to have sex with other men as well maybe even bring other men into the threesome. I don't think you're going to easily find a woman who is willing to go for your one-sided arrangement.

 

You've found a few that were naive enough to agree to your terms initially, but you've already discovered that doesn't last.

[musemaj11]

You can have as many women as you want as long as you can afford them.

 

Its actually my main drive toward success that I want to be successful enough to be able to afford the cost of dating plenty of women.

Edited July 24, 2012 by musemaj11

[Necris]

So greedy it makes me sick.

 

Agreed, This thread made me laugh. He can have em, as for myself I think being a single virgin can be quite badass. Adopt my lifestyle OP and you too can say

(no disrespect to women) Edited July 24, 2012 by Necris

[Radu]

I wanted to write in this thread from the 1st page, but something put me off constantly ... mostly you OP.

 

What you want is certainly possible, but it depends what the probability to get it is.

Exactly as you wrote it ... very very very low.

If you remove the double standard and go for open marriage or swinger/polyamory arrangement with a bisexual woman as a wife, your chances will increase considerably.

[bac]

In fact, you are a perfect husband for a lesbian but not for a bi woman.

Lesbians have no interest in men but they want to have kids. She will enjoy sex with another girl and she will not be jealous about you.

 

As for a bi woman, she has sexual desire for both genders. That means she wants guys for sex too and therefore she might be jealous of you. Also, she would want to have sex with other men as much as you want to have sex with other girls. I think a bi girl might agree to be your wife/GF if you let her have both MMF and MFF treesomes.

[D87]

Both of the girls with whom I had MFF threesomes had absolutely no desire for FMM threesomes and thought the idea was repulsive. MFF threesomes are beautiful and erotic, FMM threesomes are just dirty and make the girl into basically a whore (my opinion and the opinion of girls I dated, you're free to disagree of course). I would not go for that since I am as straight as it gets and the sight of another dude's private parts next to me would make me vomit.

 

Need I remind you that the girls are bisexual and enjoyed the threesomes with other girls as much as I did? I did not make anyone do anything they didn't want to do, if they didn't want to, we would've never had threesomes. What some of you are missing is that bisexual women in relationships with men also miss a "women's touch", they already have a dick, why would they want another one? They are attracted to both sexes so having a husband and a girlfriend would be the best of both worlds.

[Els]

So... if you're so convinced that you're offering the 'best of both worlds', OP, what's stopping you? Why haven't you had any such arrangement that lasted more than a year without the girls involved wanting out?

[Radu]

You misunderstand a few things.

 

First of all in a MMF 3some, there is no need for sword fighting.

I am also straight so doing anything of that sort ... turns me off.

 

You idealise the MFF, which is great and all that, but some of the stuff that girls can do to each other, you can learn to do yourself to your gf, i have actually adopted some stuff from the arsenal lesbi girls have in the bedroom. It's awesome, it's different, and even when you have just MF you can still connect to her in that sensual way.

Better yet, if you end up adopting it, there won't be many guys who can give her that.

 

Just because someone is bisexual doesn't mean that the person has a need for both genders in her/his life.

It doesn't mean she needs both feminine and masculine touches.

It means that her romantic relationships pool is greater than if she was straight, and that if she ends up in a MFF 3some with another girl and you, she will feel attraction to that girl as you do.

 

Why do you think that your gf #1 wanted to settle down with just you ?

[D87]

I think GF1 eventually wanted to settle down just with me because she was reaching upper 20's and want to have kids in the near future (since it is not very healthy for women to give birth past 30). And she became less and less interested in girls as she got older. I'm still talking with GF2, we might be able to work things out actually... she is definitely considering this arrangement. I guess we'll see how it goes.

[Radu]

It's too bad you have this burning need for 3somes and you couldn't work out something with GF1.

 

Does making love register with you as that if it's not in the form of a 3some ?

[mickleb]

GF1 doesn't sound very bisexual, considering she got bored of being with a woman 'as she got older'. From your rationale, she would have started craving 'a woman's touch'.

 

GF2 has become very jealous and insecure in the past, which suggests she'll be fighting these feelings again if she reconsiders. Are you prepared to go through couples counselling for your intense orgasms?

 

Again, I predict a riot.

Edited July 24, 2012 by mickleb

[Radu]

That's actually why i think it's too bad it didn't work with GF1, her reason is that she outgrew it, and wanted a family.

GF2 showed insecurity, which in this kind of arrangement [just ask the guys into polyamory] is not good at all.

 

Also wanted to add, biologically speaking, peak time for a woman to have kids is after 30, her clock probably started ticking.

In her 30's, women have the greatest probability for an egg to be released during ovulation, in their 20's the probability is smaller.

[mickleb]

they already have a dick, why would they want another one?

 

Same reason you want another pussy?

[D87]

I really don't get people comparing me and my girlfriend (or wife) dating a girl and my girlfriend (or wife) having sex with other guys. It is totally different and cannot be compared. The only way it would be the same if I was bisexual too and was into the guy as much as she was, than yes, it would be the same. There is some jealousy always, but it's not a huge problem if three people have feelings for each other and respect each other.

 

If the girls like each other and sexually intimate with each other (often they would have sex without me and go on dates without me), there is almost no jealousy between them. When our first threesome relationship ended, my girlfriend was crying more than I was lol.

 

It's too bad you have this burning need for 3somes and you couldn't work out something with GF1.

 

Does making love register with you as that if it's not in the form of a 3some ?

 

I have a strong sexual desire for threesomes, I don't even know why. My orgasms are so much stronger in a threesome than 1 on 1 sex (although of course I enjoy 1 on 1 too). There is just so much more sexual stimulation (especially from oral if both girls perform it on me). The longest 1 on 1 sex I've had was maybe an hour an a half, but threesome we can go all night, it just never gets boring with endless position variety. And even after sex, there is just something really special about three people all cuddling up next to each other and falling asleep together.

Edited July 24, 2012 by D87

[Drseussgrrl]

Meh I don't fault the OP for wanting a wife and a girlfriend.

 

I do however think it's more plausible to find a spouse who would consider a swinger lifestyle and not necessarily a girlfriend as a permanent fixture.

[mickleb]

The reason you don't get the comparisons is because you're seeing it totally from your point of view.

 

She might get a kick out of having an extra male in the bedroom, just as you get a kick from having an additional female present. Yeah, she gets a kick from the female but, obviously, that didn't last before there were complications. Perhaps if you'd let her f*ck two guys, they (the GFs) would not have got bored so quickly, or would have been less jealous of you. You don't have to even be present when this is happening, so don't let that bother you.

 

Still pointing strongly away from the entire concept of marriage, though, don't you think? I think you'll find there are few females who'd like to bring children into a relationship this complicated. But, if you can't see any real issues - go ahead and try again with GF2, if you can, and let us know when the kids are in their 20's how it all worked out. I'm sure we'll be interested.

[Radu]

You know, you can get stronger orgasms with prostate massages and tantric meditation ... or by learning to dry ejaculate before you really let it go.

 

I got nothing on the cuddling part though.

[bac]

Both of the girls with whom I had MFF threesomes had absolutely no desire for FMM threesomes and thought the idea was repulsive.

 

I am kind of bi too. And, I had the ideas as well. I had time that I had no desire for FMM too. But, any fantasy might change.

 

MFF threesomes are beautiful and erotic, FMM threesomes are just dirty and make the girl into basically a whore (my opinion and the opinion of girls I dated, you're free to disagree of course). I would not go for that since I am as straight as it gets and the sight of another dude's private parts next to me would make me vomit.

 

A agree that they show MMF sex in porno as dirty as it takes. But, IRL, it is wonderful for a girl. Many straight husbands like watching their wives enjoying sex with young hot guys in front of them. The husbands do not have sex with the guys themselves.

They might let their wives enjoy sex with handsome hot guys in the next room.

The main point is that your wife is having sex with another man and you let her to enjoy it. Your participation is optional.

 

What some of you are missing is that bisexual women in relationships with men also miss a "women's touch", they already have a dick, why would they want another one? They are attracted to both sexes so having a husband and a girlfriend would be the best of both worlds.

 

As for sex, having the only one d...k is not going to be enough for a bi girl. It gets boring in a while and she cannot get hard on the dick no matter what. A new d...k is needed to keep sexual desire alive. You say 'they already have a dick, why would they want another one?' You should understand that easily because you already had a p...y but you definitely wanted another one.

Edited July 24, 2012 by bac

[Stellar Wench]

Thanks for the great advice, I will definitely keep looking. For me its definitely not just about threesomes, I also really enjoy when three people share that special bond and it just adds a whole level of excitement to the relationship. Everything is just so much more fun with three people, especially going away on vacation. It's like being on a vacation with your significant other and a really special friend but a lot more because that friend is also your lover, and I love watching the girls laugh and flirt with each other, it's like all your senses are doubled (maybe its a sort of a "high" to me with all the endorphins being released lol). I just don't want to marry a girl and have a family with her who wouldn't be into it... and then a year or two later start going crazy when she wants to remain monogamous.

You're good with your girlfriends bringing other men in to enjoy the special bond? Didn't think so.

 

What you call a special bond is actually problems with intimacy. You can't be intimate with just one woman; you need two so the women can be intimate with each other, taking the pressure off of you.

[2sure]

I know that it sounds outrageous and immoral to most people but OP has a valid issue.

 

He has gotten used to this. Call him spoiled, call it wrong, whatever. But this is what he has gotten used to sexually and the problem is he cant function in a happy way any more with a "normal" sexual relationship of one on one.

 

OP , when you say you want to get married and want to have kids , you make the while thing sound like you would like to be able to have and be happy with a one on one.

 

Having threesomes and enjoying them, even exclusively does not equate to wanting 2 wives or a poly relationship. One is sex, one is relationships.

Do you want sex with 2 women, do you want a relationship with 2 women? Maybe you do.

 

But it sounds more to me like...You know how some guys jerk off all the time and then eventually they have trouble getting off during sex? It sounds to me like physically you are hooked on the threesomes in the same way.

 

I have absolutely no idea what you can do about it. Im just pointing out that a strong sexual fetish is way way different than a relationship/lifestyle change.

 

I like traditional one on one sex. But yeah, vanilla can become boring if youve had a lot of exposure to something ..else.