Eternal Sunshine Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I was discussing this with someone and we both think that men wouldn't care if a girl had for example Dawn's Syndrome - but in a way that you couldn't see it and she was also very hot (think 9 or 10). We think that there would be a line of men waiting to date her.
threebyfate Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 There's a small percentage of men who wouldn't date her but the larger percent would, in the hopes that she'll put out. So yes, based on these assumptions, I agree there'd be a lineup to date her. As far as proceeding to a relationship, another percentage would drop out.
Els Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 You do mean 'Down's'? Though 'Dawn's Syndrome' does make hilarious sense, in the case of Dawn Yang, a Singaporean blogger whose popularity never ceases to remind me that the human race is forever doomed.
Bob_Funk Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Definitely. Although, all else being equal, I'd prefer a girl to be in the 100-120 iq range. Any higher or lower than that, and emotional bonding could become problematic.
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted July 16, 2012 Author Posted July 16, 2012 Sorry for the misspelling, yes I mean Down's
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted July 16, 2012 Author Posted July 16, 2012 Definitely. Although, all else being equal, I'd prefer a girl to be in the 100-120 iq range. Any higher or lower than that, and emotional bonding could become problematic. Why would emotional bonding be problematic with a girl that has iq>120?
O'farrell Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Definitely. Although, all else being equal, I'd prefer a girl to be in the 100-120 iq range. Any higher or lower than that, and emotional bonding could become problematic. I have an IQ of 122. Anyone with 120 or higher is above 93% of the population. You basically wouldn't be able to emotionally bond with the overwhelming majority of women.
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted July 16, 2012 Author Posted July 16, 2012 I have an IQ of 122. Anyone with 120 or higher is above 93% of the population. You basically wouldn't be able to emotionally bond with the overwhelming majority of women. incorrect. 2
Bob_Funk Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Why would emotional bonding be problematic with a girl that has iq>120? It's been my experience that smart girls are more emotionally distant. But honestly, I'd be thrilled to be in a relationship with any cute girl who's not repulsed by me. 1
MaxNoob Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I had such a girl ask me out; very pretty, with what may have been mild Down Syndrome. I said no; I just don't find that attractive. Then her sister asked me out, who was perfectly normal and very pretty, but I refused her also. I figured it wouldn't be nice to her sister, so I friend zoned both of them. Sigh.
Author Eternal Sunshine Posted July 16, 2012 Author Posted July 16, 2012 I had such a girl ask me out; very pretty, with what may have been mild Down Syndrome. I said no; I just don't find that attractive. Then her sister asked me out, who was perfectly normal and very pretty, but I refused her also. I figured it wouldn't be nice to her sister, so I friend zoned both of them. Sigh. Awwww .........
utterer of lies Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Definitely. Although, all else being equal, I'd prefer a girl to be in the 100-120 iq range. Any higher or lower than that, and emotional bonding could become problematic. I found that relationships with more intelligent girls are easier. Not only because it's much easier to find interesting things to talk about and keeping the spark, but also because even when fighting, a girl that has a structured and organized way of thinking is so much easier to get along with. Intelligence therefore is a really important criteria, and I would not date a girl that is not above-average in that department. Edited July 16, 2012 by utterer of lies 1
madjac74 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Does anyone really want to date anyone that can state their IQ? Even smart people I know aren't that dorky or arrogant. This girl that is so called "intellectually disabled" may be culturally refined or artistic or musical. There is more to a person than pretending to be the smartest person in the world....at least I hope so. 2
Radu Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I was discussing this with someone and we both think that men wouldn't care if a girl had for example Dawn's Syndrome - but in a way that you couldn't see it and she was also very hot (think 9 or 10). We think that there would be a line of men waiting to date her. A line of good men, who knew she had this ... no. Just men, who knew she had this ... oh yeah. In this example, Down's Syndrome is not something that generally lets you physically unaffected. I think ppl with Down's Syndrome [women since men are sterile] have a high chance of passing this to their own children, why bring more children into this world who will not be able to live a full life. If she just had a low IQ, that's different.
Radu Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Why would emotional bonding be problematic with a girl that has iq>120? Ok, i'll bite the bullet and say it. Generally speaking the more intelligent the girl, the higher the chance for divorce is [look around the net, there might have been some studies made on this one]. High intelligence is good, is fine, is great, but depends how you use it. If you use it in ways to enhance that women's studies career, it could be a problem. If you use it in an exact science ... no problem. It has also been my experience that women, with a very feminine personality can get obsessed about relationships, splitting hairs in 4 kind of thing, overcomplicating matters. Now let me ask you this, if you were to choose a mate, a life partner, would you choose the Ally McBeal fan who overcomplicates relationships, or would you choose the one who is confident in what she wants/is and shares your opinions about relationships. Normal men [the ones who don't have an ambition to be a doormat], run away from 3rd wave feminist and above, and good for them. Sorry if i was too blunt. I found that relationships with more intelligent girls are easier. Not only because it's much easier to find interesting things to talk about and keeping the spark, but also because even when fighting, a girl that has a structured and organized way of thinking is so much easier to get along with. Intelligence therefore is a really important criteria, and I would not date a girl that is not above-average in that department. IQ does not determine if a person is organized or structured. What you are referring is EQ, Emotional Quefficient. Look up Emotional Intelligence. To me, EQ is more important than IQ. And the combination of a person with a high IQ and a low EQ, is quite nasty. EQ is something you can improve upon though. You can improve IQ a bit too. Edited July 16, 2012 by Radu
madjac74 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 You have a dim view of what is an intelligent woman. Some of them still just want to be treated like a lady. And what do you construe as over complicating a relationship? Would it be speaking her mind?
oaks Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 We think that there would be a line of men waiting to date her. Probably. Not sure I would be in it, though. I find intelligence a turn on so for me want to date someone who I knew was intellectually disabled, as you put it, she would have to seriously make up for it in other areas. Also, if 'disabled' is the term we're using, I hope she has sufficient mental faculties to consent to whatever we're going to be doing... otherwise that's a problem right there.
YellowShark Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Most really hot girls are intellectually disabled. While that is a joke there is some truth to it. There is a saying.. "Beauty is only skin deep, but stupid is forever." I'd take a smart girl over a "Barbie doll" any day. 1
DjinnAgain Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Does anyone really want to date anyone that can state their IQ? Even smart people I know aren't that dorky or arrogant. This girl that is so called "intellectually disabled" may be culturally refined or artistic or musical. There is more to a person than pretending to be the smartest person in the world....at least I hope so. roughly 138... standard variations. I still know IQ is mainly meaningless. I learn things a little faster. Obviously, it is not correllated to success in life (as statistics have borne out.) Furthermore, people can have all matter of positive attributes without a high IQ : strong work ethic, musical talent, etc. I can take tests very well and absorb material quickly. I'm so proud. Being able to state your IQ only means you have had it tested. I had to several times as a child in the accelerated program, and again as an adult when my exhusband wanted us both to join MENSA to meet other families. IQ does not really say who you are dealing with as a person. Some of the MENSA women were not very understanding at all about my priority of being at home with my child; similar IQs did not make us similar people.
iris219 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I suspect many men would date her. I have a friend who works with developmentally delayed individuals. Granted, they don’t have Down’s; many just have very low IQs and it’s hard for them to live on their own; her company helps them do this. All her clients seem to date and they aren’t even attractive, like in your example. Some date each other, but many date people with seemingly normal IQs. One woman she works with is very overweight and lives in squalor (never cleans, bugs everywhere), and she has a BF and several on the side. These man all have normal IQ’s. My friend tells me about all relationship drama she’s in the middle of, and it’s entertaining to hear, but really it’s depressing because we’re both single and can’t find dates. She has more trouble than I do and hasn’t dated in years.
Radu Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 You have a dim view of what is an intelligent woman. Some of them still just want to be treated like a lady. And what do you construe as over complicating a relationship? Would it be speaking her mind? I have no problem treating like a lady like a lady. We are not discussing treating her in public, saying hi, holding the door, pulling the chair, being a gentleman. We are discussing dating, and i mentioned EQ as more important than IQ in dating. You can live with someone who has a low IQ but high EQ because that person will be dedicated, organized, structured and knows what he/she wants. You have a hard time living with a high IQ but low EQ person. You know who have low EQ ?; addicts. I have met high IQ women with low EQ and they are ... quite frankly nuts. They cannot get organized, they let their emotions run rampant, you can't even hold them to a timetable, always late, etc ... On the other hand high EQ women are amazing ppl, regardless of their IQ, truly the kind of ppl you can have a relationship with. Don't get your panties in a knot, men are quite similar but they are not the subject of this thread. As for what i construe as overcomplicating a relationship, didn't i say splitting hairs in 4 [ i think there is a saying like that in english ]. Unless you experienced it in the form of a raging feminist, who is smart, entitled, and constantly reasses the relationship to make sure that it is 'right', i can't really explain it to you fully. She was thinking of converting to Wicca too ...
zengirl Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Well, first I have to say, I think it'd be impossible to have Down's Syndrome and be very attractive in an objective sense, looks-wise, as it impacts physical growth and facial characteristics in 'negative' (seen as negative, generally) ways. Its effects are physical, as well as mental. However, if we're just talking low IQ, yes, guys would line up. I don't think people with average IQs particularly value IQ at all and may be more repelled by a higher IQ than a lower one - that's men and women, frankly. When you get to the point where social cues are missed or there's a greater disability, I don't think so, really. (Hell, even a high IQ gal with Aspergers would probably have some trouble.) The issue isn't 'smarts' in that case, so much as 'commonality as a functioning adult.' MOST people are suitably socialized to not be attracted to that. So, I'd say there's a vast difference between something like Down's Syndrome (even without the physical characteristics) which we're socialized to think of as a disability and someone who has a low IQ, which is in SOME ways a disability, but unless we're talking severe retardation (which if a woman has the mindset of a small child, I don't think she'd seem as attractive) isn't something we really see as one in day-to-day life.
Kamille Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I think there are all kinds of men out there. I couldn't imagine a single one of my exes being interested in an "intellectually disabled" women, not even for a one night stand. 1
El Brujo Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I was discussing this with someone and we both think that men wouldn't care if a girl had for example Dawn's Syndrome - but in a way that you couldn't see it and she was also very hot (think 9 or 10). We think that there would be a line of men waiting to date her. Well, according to scientists who've studied this sort of thing, "it has been proven that people with higher cognitive abilities have lower birthrates"... in plain English, stupid people like to screw more than smart people. But yes, between 10 and 40% of men have had fantasies of getting it on with a mentally disabled woman, because they can order her to perform whatever bizarre sex act the guy wants, and the woman is less likely to balk at it. An older male co-worker told me so. But don't expect many other guys will reveal that little secret to women.
phineas Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Well, according to scientists who've studied this sort of thing, "it has been proven that people with higher cognitive abilities have lower birthrates"... in plain English, stupid people like to screw more than smart people. But yes, between 10 and 40% of men have had fantasies of getting it on with a mentally disabled woman, because they can order her to perform whatever bizarre sex act the guy wants, and the woman is less likely to balk at it. An older male co-worker told me so. But don't expect many other guys will reveal that little secret to women. errr, i've met women with masters degree's who are like this.
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