WonderKid Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 I don't see how it clarifies me as a whiteknight but okay I guess. I never went out with those girls. Was shocked when they acted unusual though.
Anela Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 I've tried to avoid them my whole life. The only one I was ever attracted to, seemed like a good guy at first. I was physically, mentally and emotionally attracted to him, and he seemed to be stable. The last guy I was interested in was short, bald, and seemed like a nice guy. He wasn't interested, most likely because I'm socially awkward, and came out with something stupid. Since this was online dating, maybe I should have just said, "hey sexy" since most of them seem to do the same - I actually wrote a message, referencing things in his profile. Also: when I use this short, bald guy as an example, it's only because so many on here seem to think that short guys are not wanted. I thought he looked and sounded like a good guy, I liked his smile and his eyes, but I didn't see the rejection as that demoralizing, until I came back here and saw all of the "woe is me" posts. So, I wonder how many short guys out there are overlooking women like me, as they moan about not being wanted, instead of taking their own advice (or, their own orders, at times) to women here, to lower their expectations and date them.
Anela Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Date a bad girl "Bad Boys" have a knack of knowing how to make themselves sexually attractive to women. Other times, they already are because they are naturally good looking. Sometimes, they abuse the push/pull rule. Multitude of reasons why, but a lot of women will go with their emotions, and sometimes being a "gentleman of honor" may not make a woman have the emotional "rollercoaster" she may want/need to feel attracted and turned on. My guess really......... But yeah, date a bad girl - sometimes they don't mind a gentleman . I hate the roller-coaster. I remember feeling so free when I thought I knew where I stood, and we had no contact for a while. It's what they are used to and they feel they don't deserve better. Yep. Better the devil you know.
Oncehadluv Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 nice guys use that niceness as a front, most are mean as hell and insecure behind closed doors and pessimistic bad boys dont hide behind niceness to get women and dont have to be mean to get a woman to do something or be manipulative aka act nice 1
SincereOnlineGuy Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 a gentlemen who shows honor and dignity, and who is also hard working. It seems the "gentlemen (sic) who show(s) honor and dignity, and who is (sic) also hard working" should study psychology if and when he gets some spare time. The answers are all there. 2
nessaaa Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Bad bad bad bad boy you make feel soo gooood. Some ppl just like drama. Look at Rihanna, Chris brown beat her ass and she still wants him...don't know why she doesn't date drake he's a combo of sweet and a bad boy. Every time I hear a girl talk about an ex that abused and disrespected them, I can't help but look at them like they are out of their head for even thinking about going out with someone like that. It's always the nice classy girls that pick *******s as boyfriends too, and reject the quality men. I'm not talking about rejecting a pathetic "good boy" needy guy, I'm talking about a gentlemen who shows honor and dignity, and who is also hard working. Then shortly after I hear about a girl who had a bad boyfriend that verbally abused them to the point of tears, and holding them against their will, here they are sitting right in front of me fooling around with a guy who isn't any better than their last boyfriend. Like he is a jailbird, an *******, or completely disrespects women and doesn't hide it. What the **** gives? Why do women even bother with guys like that? It's just setting themselves up for disrespect and hurt in the future and they are blind to it. It just looks retarded to me. Like they didn't learn from their mistake. There must be something I'm missing here...
fishtaco Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 As someone that married an abusive and controlling man [at a very young age mind you] I can say that it is more or a learning phase. Most women fall under this category. The vast majority of women, by default, are into bad boys. But some learn their lesson and stay away. Your story is a typical one. But I am sorry that you were with an abusive husband. nice guys use that niceness as a front, most are mean as hell and insecure behind closed doors and pessimistic bad boys dont hide behind niceness to get women and dont have to be mean to get a woman to do something or be manipulative aka act nice That's true, but not all nice guys fall under this category. Some nice guys are really just too gentlemanly. I have friends that are genuinely nice through and through. And guess what, they can't get women. Friendzoned all the time. The problem with nice guys, is that they think they deserve romance just because they're nice, as if that's a selling point. That's their mistake, and a huge one, doesn't matter if they are really nice or they have a mean bitter inner self; when it comes time to perform, and the best you can come up with is nice, you lose. 1
Kofybean Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Every time I hear a girl talk about an ex that abused and disrespected them, I can't help but look at them like they are out of their head for even thinking about going out with someone like that. It's always the nice classy girls that pick *******s as boyfriends too, and reject the quality men. ... I tend to disagree with this hesitantly. In some respects I do understand exactly what you mean, but in the grand scheme of things, its not your problem. For every woman that does that, there are a lot out there that do not. The best thing for you to do (probably harsh on the women) is to walk away and never look back. Leave them to the rachet, broken, and abusive men they seek. Find a woman who adores the honorable man by action, not by words. Most importantly, BE an honorable man.
manup Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 It's what they are used to and they feel they don't deserve better. ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh and ahahahahahahahahahaha
manup Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 women like uncertainty and their hind brains love douche behavior, it is what it is, not all women are like this just about 95%
miss_jaclynrae Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Quick summary for men out there, what she's saying is if you want women at their youngest and hottest be an *******. I hate to come off all high and mighty... but I am only 21... and I think I am pretty effing hot. Lots of women learn these things at a young age.
oaks Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 ( I don't advocate physical abuse as that's illegal ), Would it be okay if it was legal?
irc333 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 It's exciting to them. Black eyes, broken ribs, and the cops coming out the residents is exciting to them? More stressful and hell on earth.
irc333 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 The problem with nice guys, is that they think they deserve romance just because they're nice, as if that's a selling point. That's their mistake, and a huge one, doesn't matter if they are really nice or they have a mean bitter inner self; when it comes time to perform, and the best you can come up with is nice, you lose. Here's a question to ponder, what if you're nice to everyone regardless of sex? What if it's in your nature to be polite, gentlemanly and nice? What if you don't using being nice as a selling point, ( I know I don't) to get women? Typically , yes, some nice guys try to push that quality as a selling point, however to some of them it's in their nature to always bee nice (but not too nice). Are they doomed to single hood until the day they day, or perhaps one day will run into a woman that CAN appreciate such qualities? (the ones that hav learned their lessons) There's this one attractive 50+ year old woman, she had an a*hole Latin ex-husband, he was big on "muchisma" all the time. She eventually got sick of his macho bull****...and now wants a nice guy. Makes sense to me, eventually you'll just get tired of it.
WonderKid Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I said myself that nice guys think they're entitled to every woman they encounter somehow but they aren't. She's entitled to her own decision. I'm naturally nice--not just to get laid or a date. If anybody met me they'd see I'm just a cool dude. But I know when to channel my inner darkside too; not a pushover by far. But I just see it as if the woman thinks I'm too "nice" then I just leave her alone. Let her keep getting those guys who treat bad. Obviously she likes that and I'm not gonna waste my energy trying to change it.
carhill Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Some psychological insight can be found when reading accounts by/about professional 'bad boys', a great, yet extreme, example being professional contract killers. Reading about their family and work lives can provide some clarity about how and why some women gravitate towards what we call 'bad boys'. Of course there are more commonplace examples, as one can look at any prison population for them, but few are written about and/or investigated with any detail or professional insight. To plagiarize a line from Star Wars, the influence of the dark side is strong and seductive. Cognitively, one might wish to not admit it, but it's there. One always has choices and those choices have consequences. 1
Pyro Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I'm going to say one sentence that every man must know and accept if he wants to stop getting friend zoned by women. Here it is: You have to hurt women to keep them. That's right. Women thrive on conflict, drama and emotions. The ones who claim not to are lying. Every type of women follows the same pattern. The classy ones, hot ones, ugly ones, slutty ones, etc. Doesn't matter. If you never inflict some kind of emotional pain on a woman she will leave you. Sad but true. Also, the first person to be an a--hole in the relationship is usually the person who gets the upper hand and keeps it. Regardless of gender. You are correct that it will keep a guy out of the friend zone because most healthy minded women will want nothing to do with an ignorant D-bag like that. The two pillars of being successful with women are benign neglect ( I don't advocate physical abuse as that's illegal ), what I mean by that is forget her birthday, her mother is in the hospital? Show up 3 hours late smelling like a brewery. Secondly you must, at all times, make sure you let her know you can do without. She bitches about you hanging out with your friends? If you don't like it there's the door. As a male displaying positive emotions/feelings towards a woman is percieved by them as a weakness to be exploited. If you, as a man, feel the need to be affectionate and loving with something born with ovaries I suggest talking to your mother, daughter, female cousin or dog. :lmao::lmao::lmao: Such sad advice.
Leopard Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 The same reason men like foxy women. They keep you on your toes, and that's hot.
Leopard Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 That isn't hot. I suppose being predictable and boring is what's hot for others. Each to their own I guess
SincereOnlineGuy Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I hate to come off all high and mighty... but I am only 21... and I think I am pretty effing hot. Lots of women learn these things at a young age. Man this looks odd when put so matter-of-factly. Though it would probably be difficult to argue your point.
fortyninethousand322 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I have no problem with women dating bad boys. I just wish they would keep dating those types. The idea that you could date bad types when younger and then go for a nicer person later is completely ridiculous and wreaks of bad manners. Just stick to your type. It's what you want. 2
dbzeng Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Because being a good guy = boring. Also the bad boys have to be physically attractive. If you are ugly and try to be a bad boy your are going to be SOL.
KungFuJoe Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Ugh...I cringe whenever I hear this. It's such a STUPID generalization. Women don't want BAD guys. They want strong, aggressive, assertive, exciting and mysterious. It's just that the BAD guys usually exhibit more of these traits than the "NICE" guys. Just don't be a ****ing doormat and you'll be fine. 2
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