Curtis24 Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Deep down inside, women know where they stand, yet they will often lie and boast in their own self-interest.
aRealMan Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Hell yes. And they like to pretend that make-up doesn't make up 97% of their attractiveness. Once I learned to "see through" makeup, I stopped putting such a high value on them and made them work for attention. Attention for them is what sex is to men. Inb4 Curtis, Kevin, Kaylan, Brahmabull and the rest of the white knight crew. 1
ThaWholigan Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 I think men vastly overrate some women's physical attractiveness. How Tulisa got voted sexiest woman alive I'll never know. Even Rita Ora is better looking. I think women would be more realistic about it if men didn't think they were so attractive - but then what does it matter, people attract people. 1
brahmabull117 Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 I'm a white knight cause I like to bring some objectivity to this forum full of raving lunatics oh brother :laugh::laugh:
USMCHokie Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Well, it depends. A lot of women base their attractiveness on external validation, especially when they are younger. Those that receive a lot of male attention, especially during high school and college, will "rate" their attractiveness accordingly. It really has nothing to do with actual physical attributes. It's more what those attributes can attain. So if a woman gets a lot of attention, they may be more inclined to "overrate" their attractiveness. 3
monkey00 Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 They both vastly overrate it and they attempt to artificially enhance it. Makeup, hair extensions, figure enhancing clothes, cosmetic surgery etc etc. That's why women are placed on such high pedestals these days. Men are such chumps these days and forget to look past the book cover. As I tell my friends all the time, without makeup women are usually just average looking. In the animal kingdom males are the pretty ones and are the ones who get selected due to physical features. Odd how humans are flipped the other way mostly.
brahmabull117 Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 We're not. Men are far more aesthetically pleasing than women. Have you ever seen a man 5 seconds after he woke up? How different did he look compared to his "ready for work" self? Compare this with a woman. LOL I totally agree with you on this. I look way better than my sister if she doesn't have her make up on
monkey00 Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 We're not. Men are far more aesthetically pleasing than women. Have you ever seen a man 5 seconds after he woke up? How different did he look compared to his "ready for work" self? Compare this with a woman. Hah I wish I knew but I'm a guy. But I kind of get what you're saying. Guys can get ready in a few minutes usually and are hassle free in this category.
ThaWholigan Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 We're not. Men are far more aesthetically pleasing than women. Have you ever seen a man 5 seconds after he woke up? How different did he look compared to his "ready for work" self? Compare this with a woman. This is the most inadvertently homoerotic thing I have ever read on the internet 4
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 We're not. Men are far more aesthetically pleasing than women. Have you ever seen a man 5 seconds after he woke up? How different did he look compared to his "ready for work" self? Compare this with a woman. Are you gay? Do women vastly overrate their physical attractivness? I'm sure some do and many don't. You, on the other hand, I suspect of VASTLY overrating YOUR physical attractiveness. As we all know, I've been around since practically the stone age, and I've never heard a man rhapsodize about his own handsome godlike appearance as much as you do.
veggirl Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 No. Women know where they are in terms of good looks for the most part, IME. It's guys who are freaking retarded about women's looks. All it takes for most guys to think "hot" is long hair, the make up you all for some reason bitch and bitch and bitch about us wearing, and not being fat. Like, the woman does not even ACTUALLY have to be attractive. She just has to style herself to a vague version of what is considered sexy, and guys will go ga-ga over her. Dudes are completely fooled by every trick many women have in their arsenal. 2
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 I bet that a lot of you insecure fellows are misreading some women that are not exactly hot or young and who walk around as if they are. Lots of us aren't "overrating" our looks. It's just that we are perfectly fine with who we are, and proud to be who we are. It probably shows. And then, of course there are those who are delusional. It's not a gender specific trait. 2
brahmabull117 Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 And then, of course there are those who are delusional. It's not a gender specific trait. Yep I say the same thing and I get labeled a white knight
veggirl Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 inexperienced guys. get off your high horse. What high horse? Just pointing out what I see often. What does thinking a woman is attractive have to do with EXPERIENCE?
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Like, the woman does not even ACTUALLY have to be attractive. She just has to style herself to a vague version of what is considered sexy, and guys will go ga-ga over her. . In some cases, "she" doesn't have to even actually be a woman! As long as she has the styling tricks in order. 2
Dafa Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 Well, it depends. A lot of women base their attractiveness on external validation, especially when they are younger. Those that receive a lot of male attention, especially during high school and college, will "rate" their attractiveness accordingly. It really has nothing to do with actual physical attributes. It's more what those attributes can attain. So if a woman gets a lot of attention, they may be more inclined to "overrate" their attractiveness. I greatly agree with this! As for the make-up comments. Where i'm from, (younger) women only tend to use more elaborate make-up things when going to more special events. Even in a night out in a club or pub, most of them only use (at most) very light stuff, like things to hide the sleepy-looking skin under the eyes, an occasional colouring on the eyes, etc. However, when i go to England, for example, it is indeed very different. Is the USA also like that?
ThaWholigan Posted July 10, 2012 Posted July 10, 2012 I vividly remember the absolute hottest girl in my HS coming to school one day in sweatpants, no makeup and pretty much no hair grooming. It ruined my day. A guy wakes up 9 second before class and rolls out of bed? Maybe some bo and out of bed hair but otherwise the same. so you would rather see a guy get out of bed in the morning than a woman? 3
brahmabull117 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 so you would rather see a guy get out of bed in the morning than a woman? What he's saying is absolutely true though. My sister is drop dead gorgeous and she doesn't really compare to me when we're walking around and she has no makeup on Men ARE better looking than women 1
threebyfate Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 so you would rather see a guy get out of bed in the morning than a woman? Guyth are tho pretty, thuch thoft and thilky thkin! 2
Feelsgoodman Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Like, the woman does not even ACTUALLY have to be attractive. She just has to style herself to a vague version of what is considered sexy, and guys will go ga-ga over her. Dudes are completely fooled by every trick many women have in their arsenal. I agree. This trickery is disgraceful behavior that should be, if not a felony, at minimum a misdemeanor.
ThaWholigan Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 What he's saying is absolutely true though. My sister is drop dead gorgeous and she doesn't really compare to me when we're walking around and she has no makeup on Men ARE better looking than women I'd rather see a woman with no makeup in the morning, with her hair out and sweatpants - sh*t, I have seen it, and I like it. The only man I want to look at when I wake up is me. 1
brahmabull117 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 I'd rather see a woman with no makeup in the morning, with her hair out and sweatpants - sh*t, I have seen it, and I like it. The only man I want to look at when I wake up is me. I agree, I've seen women who look pretty decent with no makeup...but they still don't look as good as good looking men do with no makeup Speaking on a purely objective level
carhill Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Discuss!!!! It's pretty simple, based on a lifetime of experiences with female friends.....when men are regularly and consistently approaching and making complimentary statements, even the most 'average' of women will take their own self-assessment and inflate it with the validation received. It's natural. I have met a few very attractive women who appeared flattered by all the attention but had a very humble opinion of themselves and tended to downplay their attractiveness. Everyone is different.
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