somedude81 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 I ask this because, I am forming a mental picture of you, and that is the image I am forming. A frustrated young man who is not in top physical shape, who is having difficulty finding a girlfriend. Am I correct? And how many women are in top physical shape?
Woggle Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 I was going to say something about Cher aging well, and then I came up with something even better. If Chastity Bono ages well, what will people say? Hardy har har Cher just had tons of plastic surgery and wears tons of makeup. She is as plastic as they come. No Michelle Pfieffer is somebody who has aged well. Salma Hayek as well. 1
Author Forever Learning Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 How did I miss this thread till now? It really does seem that things should be equal. But for some reason they aren't. Here's an example. I work at a retail store that has about an even mix of men and women. From what I've seen, most of the women have boyfriends and most of the guys are single. It's almost been the same at my school, I keep running into girls that have boyfriends and guys that are single. Though another group that seems to be pretty common, are women that want to be single. These women effectively take themselves out of the dating pool leaving an excess of men who are single and looking. That isn't something that men do. Another problem is overweight women. While heavy women can get partners, those women are not as in demand as slimmer women are. Here's a rough example of what I think is happening. 10 men and 10 women 2 women have no interest in dating for whatever reason 3 women are obese and the men have no interest in them 5 women are left that all 10 men will pursue Of course it's more complicated then that, but it's just a simple basic example. The big problem that men in their 20's and early 30's have, is what kind of men that women in their 20's and early 30's actually want. For some reason, they want guys like this who will most likely end up being terrible boyfriends and almost guaranteed to cheat, simply because many girls will want them. Which basically leaves a ton of other guys that young women aren't into at all, and they will be ignored. It's not until they get older that women realize that guys like this would actually be the better choice. It basically means that dating is really hard for a large number of young guys while the young girls are either all sharing a small number of guys, or they simply take themselves out of the game. How did you miss this thread Somedude81? By the way, were you born in 1981? If so, and if I do end up going Cougar as someone suggested, you can be my prey if you like. I think your young enough, I was born in 1969. You could be my first conquest as a cougar! I think that's a win/win situation right there Maynard. Thank you for the interesting input on this thread. I agree with your philosophy on the stats on how it all plays out with regard to the women and men on the dating scene. And you are well read and well studied on this topic, your input is truly fantastic. Thanks for chiming in. I do have a question for you. Do you begrudge a woman for her natural biological inclination to seek out an assertive man? Do you think it is something she does with malicious intent, in order to frustrate nice guys? I have a bit of an anecdote on that topic. People have asked me how it was I ended up with my loser ex-husband who was such a terd. Here's the nutshell answer to that. I was 26 when I met him, and had just come out of another relationship (with a fairly good guy, nice guy, but a skirt chaser - he was a good hearted sex addict, I guess you could say). I mistook my ex-husband, the terd, who was mean and cruel by nature, as 'masculine' and 'assertive'. That's really what it all boiled down to, in retrospect. My biology as a women, compelled me to seek out a masculine man. My father was very masculine and 'tough'. I sought out a man like my father. But I mistakenly landed a mean, cruel man. I mistook his meanness, for masculinity. Yes, I was a real dumb dumb. But, live and learn. It wasn't something I did on purpose. It was my female nature, to seek out a 'masculine', 'alpha', assertive man. What I got instead was mean, cruel, aggressive. Ah well. I was blinded by biology and misunderstanding. And Oxytocin in the brain, making me more loopy in love than logical. There is alot of biology to this love stuff. Don't be too hard on young women, I think they are doing the best they can, all things considered. Cheers Somedude81! p.s. meow meow or is it ROAR ROAR. What sound does a cougar make anyway? 1
Author Forever Learning Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 Perhaps if you define grace as waddling down the street sporting a pot belly and more hair on the back and in the ears than on the head. You always make me laugh Fit Chick. Rock on with your bad self Sister!!
Author Forever Learning Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 I don't know about that but it really does show where a woman's heart is at. And truly Woggle, there are many men who are motivated by money and would jump ship from a relationship if the price was right. This is a human condition, materialistic mentalities - not a gender condition. I know that your thinking on these issues is colored by your negative experiences with your mother, and I sympathize with you regarding your life experience with her and understand to some extent how that must have shaped you in your opinions. But blanket thought patterns about one gender or the other being greedy and /or motivated strictly by money and power, are simply wrong. Greed comes in all genders, ages, creeds, colors, and nationalities. There are probably greedy Amish and greedy Mormons, although I can't say since I don't know any personally.
NYC-BigKat Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 I have always wondered this. This really confuses me. Somebody please enlighten me on this. In the USA, there is roughly the same number of men and women (am I right on that much?). So it would seem to me, that the number of men seeking women, and the number of women seeking men, would be roughly the same amount of people (roughly - I mean, 50 / 50, not like 20 / 80 ). If that is the case (if there is pretty much the same number of single men out there as there are single women) - aren't the odds of finding a mate the same for both sexes? I know, in online dating, men say that women have all the power. But, how is that true, just going by the numbers? Even if some of the women don't respond to the men who send them an email to say hello via online dating - don't the women have to eventually respond to some of the men? Or else, they would be single women forever? Let's say the really good looking, tall guys making big money, get lots of women responding to them. And then the marry one of the hundred chicks who sent them an email. Where do the other 99 women go? What I am saying it, doesn't it all balance out eventually? How could it be that only the handsome, tall, wealthy men could get women? What would happen to all the other women? They don't just go live in a cave. They are still out there, dating, right? So, doesn't it stand to reason that there are equal amounts of single men and women out there available for dating? Even, perhaps, equal amounts of both men and women who drop out of the dating scene entirely, and just live out life alone? How is it that women have all the power in dating? If there were crowds of women chasing the tall, handsome, rich guys, and the rich guys marry one, and then the crowd of women moves to the next rich guy, eventually, wouldn't the women get tired of pursueing the tall, handsome, rich guys, and either drop out of dating, or settle for an average guy? I know this sounds silly. I just don't understand, theoretically, and going by the sheer numbers of singles alone, how women could have so much more power over men, in the dating scene. Here's one other anecdote. My ex husband is online dating. He is fairly short (5'8"), not rich (blue collar), and not particularly handsome (he's 45, he's ok looking, maybe above-average for the men online at his age, he is not very overweight, maybe 20 pounds or so, he is in fairly decent shape, and somewhat above average looking, blond, blue eyes, but not drop dead gorgeous). He is not a particularly great conversationalist, and his profile is just run of the mill, nothing special. So having said that, I happen to know he has lots of women that he is going out on dates with, LOTS. They are average to above average looking, and around his age. So why are there so many guys around here that say you must be tall, handsome and rich to get dates online? I don't get this at all. And, my ex-husband seems to prove otherwise, from his experience. Does anyone have any input on this 'balance of power' in the dating scene? This is an honest question. Thanks!! I tend to think, Um...there's tons & tons of pretty girls all over the place & I cant do any thing about it . There's not alot of single guys but lots & lots of single girls but they so picky all the time. 1
Author Forever Learning Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 And how many women are in top physical shape? I'll bet Fit Chick is in top physical shape. I know I am. No need to get up in arms about me asking another poster with a chip on his shoulder if he has a weight problem. I was not directing that at you. Only him, because he seems particularly frustrated in the dating scene, and if he happens to have a weight problem, well that is something that is within his power to change in order to improve his life and his luck with the ladies. You yourself stated that 3 out of 10 ladies are obese, and that the men therefore pursue the other, more fit women in the dating pool. I was merely asking if this was one of his shortcomings and a possible reason for his frustrations which are apparent in his posts regarding women. Lets be friends, SomeDude81. Shall we? Love you!
Author Forever Learning Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 Um...there's tons & tons of pretty girls all over the place & I cant do any thing about it . There's not alot of single guys but lots & lots of single girls but they so picky all the time. Wait a second, SomeDude81 says just the opposite is true. What gives? Hey BigKat, in your experience, what are the girls picky about? Do they not like your looks? Personality? Personal hygeine? Do you floss and wear deoderant? What could be the turn off that you are encountering? Do you tend to stare at their boobs instead of their eyes when you talk to them? Just wondering. Inquiring minds want to know! What do the girls tell you when you try to talk to them? Are you a virgin? Maybe it shows. Sometimes we can tell you know. Sometimes girls just don't want to have to show a guy how to have sex. Some girls are more patient than others with this. You know it takes all kinds to make the world go round! That is part of the human condition, my friend. Life is not easy. You just have to keep plugging away, and learning all you can, in order to find your way to happiness on your journey. And the journey never ends. Chin up! Hang around Love Shack, and you will certainly learn something beneficial to your personal situation, sooner or later. Cheers love!
Els Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) It's not until they get older that women realize that guys like this would actually be the better choice. ROFL, I swear that pic looks almost exactly like the Prof that I posted about here. Coincidence? I don't necessarily agree that what you say is true (I always went for the non-players, and I'm fairly young), but even if it is, there is logically an easy answer to 'even things out' - date those older women whom you claim like nice guys. Edited July 11, 2012 by Elswyth
Author Forever Learning Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 Besides handsomeness, women also want men who "are genetically compatible", i.e. have facial features similar to themselves. A good book is "Love at First Sight" by Suzy Malin. This might explain why he did not please you sexually, but is popular with lots of other women. When the two of you got together, was it instant attraction, or was it just something you fell into? As to the second question... I don't know. Some argue that women are being monopolized by a small minority of symmetrical men - or that, many don't want a relationhip altogether! Now Curtis, you mentioned something very interesting here. When I got together with my ex-husband, I was 26, he was 29. And yes, it was instant attraction both ways. He was a carbon copy of James Dean at his heyday. He was a very attractive man. And I was a hottie too. Years of smoking cigarettes, pot and alcoholism diminished his looks. I'm still a hottie though. I don't smoke, that's a biggie when it comes to aging gracefully. The reason he did not please me sexually was/is because he is a Premature Ejaculator, and could never overcome that issue. He tricked me a few times in the beginning, saying I was 'so hot' is why he came so quickly. My ego bought it big time, hook, line and sinker!!! LOL And, so I totally overlooked his problem of cumming too fast, due to me being so hot and all. Live and learn! Cheers friends!
Author Forever Learning Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 ROFL, I swear that pic looks almost exactly like the Prof that I posted about here. Coincidence? I don't necessarily agree that what you say is true (I always went for the non-players, and I'm fairly young), but even if it is, there is logically an easy answer to 'even things out' - date those older women whom you claim like nice guys. LOL, Elswyth I totally forgot to click on the picture links SomeDude provided until you posted just now. I couldn't find the pic in your link of the Prof though. Good point on fixing all this - date the older women who like nice guys! I may seriously have to do the Cougar thing for a bit and date a sampling of younger guys, both nice guys and bad boys - just to test the waters and see how this younger generations crop of youngsters gets their groove on. Sort of like Coke versus Pepsi, taking the Pepsi challenge back in the day. I'll be like the old lady on the Wendy's commercial, you know the famous question she used to ask. 1
Els Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 ROFL. I didn't post a link to the Prof's pic (I wouldn't dare!), but trust me, he looks almost exactly like the pic SD linked. Perhaps a little older, with glasses.
Bristolius Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 This evolutionary biology stuff is modern bunk, essentially the tabloid version of science and biology. If you ever been to other countries, the men are horny scoundrals just like in America, but nowhere near as desperate. The condition men live through in Anglo countries like USA, Australia and England are completely man-made. I'd love to see a woman in Roman times refuse to marry a man because of his height or because he's bald The fact that women are picky today says nothing about evolution, considering the fact that women never really had a choice in mates until now. Evolutionary biology is bunk? You don't believe in natural selection? Why do you think American men are desperate? Do you feel desperate? 1
somedude81 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 How did you miss this thread Somedude81? By the way, were you born in 1981? If so, and if I do end up going Cougar as someone suggested, you can be my prey if you like. I think your young enough, I was born in 1969. You could be my first conquest as a cougar! I think that's a win/win situation right there Maynard. Born in 69? That's only a 12 year difference I've had bigger gaps Thank you for the interesting input on this thread. I agree with your philosophy on the stats on how it all plays out with regard to the women and men on the dating scene. And you are well read and well studied on this topic, your input is truly fantastic. Thanks for chiming in. You're welcome. This is an area that I am very interested in as it does directly affect my life. I do have a question for you. Do you begrudge a woman for her natural biological inclination to seek out an assertive man? Do you think it is something she does with malicious intent, in order to frustrate nice guys? I don't believe that there is any malicious intent. To most young women, the nice guys are almost invisible. It's almost as those guys just don't exist as men till one of them tries to assert himself as a man, and she just hand-waves him away. As for women being inclined to seek an "assertive man" it just strikes me as foolish. It should be common sense now that bad boys should be avoided as they are only trouble. But no, it's as if every woman needs to be personally burned by several of them, to finally figure that out. As a "nice guy" it's really depressing to see a woman ignore me, chase a guy who is obviously bad for her, then he cheats on her and she's hurt. "I told you so" doesn't quite cut it. I have a bit of an anecdote on that topic. People have asked me how it was I ended up with my loser ex-husband who was such a terd. Here's the nutshell answer to that. I was 26 when I met him, and had just come out of another relationship (with a fairly good guy, nice guy, but a skirt chaser - he was a good hearted sex addict, I guess you could say). I mistook my ex-husband, the terd, who was mean and cruel by nature, as 'masculine' and 'assertive'. That's really what it all boiled down to, in retrospect. My biology as a women, compelled me to seek out a masculine man. My father was very masculine and 'tough'. I sought out a man like my father. But I mistakenly landed a mean, cruel man. I mistook his meanness, for masculinity. Yes, I was a real dumb dumb. But, live and learn. It wasn't something I did on purpose. It was my female nature, to seek out a 'masculine', 'alpha', assertive man. What I got instead was mean, cruel, aggressive. Ah well. I was blinded by biology and misunderstanding. And Oxytocin in the brain, making me more loopy in love than logical. There is alot of biology to this love stuff. Don't be too hard on young women, I think they are doing the best they can, all things considered. Blinded by hormones. It's funny that as advanced as humans are with society and technology, we are still animals that are driven by chemicals and all that brain power gets thrown out the window. And women, seem to be even more driven by their hormones then men are. I guess as a man, the only thing I can do is accept it, and wait for my time to come? Cheers Somedude81! p.s. meow meow or is it ROAR ROAR. What sound does a cougar make anyway? T , make sure your volume is up I'll bet Fit Chick is in top physical shape. I know I am. Really? You got a body like her? If so, that's really cool. The thing is, the vast majority of women her age and younger, don't even come close. No need to get up in arms about me asking another poster with a chip on his shoulder if he has a weight problem. I was not directing that at you. Only him, because he seems particularly frustrated in the dating scene, and if he happens to have a weight problem, well that is something that is within his power to change in order to improve his life and his luck with the ladies. Oh, so you believe that people who are not in top physical shape have weight problems? The reason I got up in arms, is because I interpret "top physical shape" as this. Which then meant to me that if a guy doesn't have a body like that, then he is not going to be able to succeed with women. As we all know, the vast majority of women are nowhere near as fit as that guy, and it's ridiculous that they should expect a guy like him and reject all others as not good enough. Is that the case, or am I misunderstanding you? Lets be friends, SomeDude81. Shall we? Love you! Heh I really am not trying to be mean, but this whole concept is something I am very passionate about. 1
Author Forever Learning Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 Why is it so impossible that somebody can make an unattached, unemotional observation? Men as a whole have thought the same way I do throughout history, did they all have a chip on their shoulder too? I know in the age where Paris Hilton has replaced Aeneas it's hard to grasp that some people can see beyond their own personal experiences, or narcissism, but, some real men with a right to the seat as governor in the home and society, still walk the earth although dwindling in numbers. Ok, fair enough, althought I don't get your reference to the seat as governor in the home and society. Apparently you qualify yourself as a real man, since you have bolded those particular words within your statement. Anyhow, I'll ask you this. You seem to have a highly patriarchal view of the world. How's your dating history? Had many girlfriends with that attitude of yours? As Dr. Phil would say, "How's that working for you?". I am just curious. Does your current girlfriend admire these philosophies of yours? What, no current girlfriend? No ex girlfriends either? I wonder what that's all about? All I am saying is, it may behoove you to consider some introspection regarding your gender role views, and perhaps a little lightening up is in order. Just a thought. I could be wrong. I've been wrong plenty in life, no doubt about that. Just remember, sometimes we miss the forest for the trees, when we only think in terms of black and white, and don't allow for the 50 shades of grey in between. Those 50 shades might be the best place of all in which to hang out! Cheers love!
Author Forever Learning Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 Born in 69? That's only a 12 year difference I've had bigger gaps You're welcome. This is an area that I am very interested in as it does directly affect my life. I don't believe that there is any malicious intent. To most young women, the nice guys are almost invisible. It's almost as those guys just don't exist as men till one of them tries to assert himself as a man, and she just hand-waves him away. As for women being inclined to seek an "assertive man" it just strikes me as foolish. It should be common sense now that bad boys should be avoided as they are only trouble. But no, it's as if every woman needs to be personally burned by several of them, to finally figure that out. As a "nice guy" it's really depressing to see a woman ignore me, chase a guy who is obviously bad for her, then he cheats on her and she's hurt. "I told you so" doesn't quite cut it. Blinded by hormones. It's funny that as advanced as humans are with society and technology, we are still animals that are driven by chemicals and all that brain power gets thrown out the window. And women, seem to be even more driven by their hormones then men are. I guess as a man, the only thing I can do is accept it, and wait for my time to come? T , make sure your volume is up Really? You got a body like her? If so, that's really cool. The thing is, the vast majority of women her age and younger, don't even come close. Oh, so you believe that people who are not in top physical shape have weight problems? The reason I got up in arms, is because I interpret "top physical shape" as this. Which then meant to me that if a guy doesn't have a body like that, then he is not going to be able to succeed with women. As we all know, the vast majority of women are nowhere near as fit as that guy, and it's ridiculous that they should expect a guy like him and reject all others as not good enough. Is that the case, or am I misunderstanding you? Heh I really am not trying to be mean, but this whole concept is something I am very passionate about. Oh God, you are such a cutie, SomeDude. Don't make me hop on a plane and fly out there and f*ck your brains out, you know I will. I did with Frisky.
somedude81 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 ROFL, I swear that pic looks almost exactly like the Prof that I posted about here. Coincidence? That's because it's a picture of me, and I am your professor! I don't necessarily agree that what you say is true (I always went for the non-players, and I'm fairly young), but even if it is, there is logically an easy answer to 'even things out' - date those older women whom you claim like nice guys. If you grew up in the United States then what you have done, may have been different. As for dating the older women, you do know that's not an option. Do you really expect men in their 20's to have serious relationships with women in their 40's? Yes I am almost 31 years old, but I haven't been 30 my entire life, while I have had dating issues, ever since I became interested in girls. Dating older women who are now willing to settle down, wasn't a possibility. 2
somedude81 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Oh God, you are such a cutie, SomeDude. Don't make me hop on a plane and fly out there and f*ck your brains out, you know I will. I did with Frisky. Wow, you are awesome at dissolving tension. I felt I was being a bit accusatory then you come back with an answer like that, and I'm just "Yes mam." BTW, did you click on my cougar video? Edited July 11, 2012 by somedude81 1
Author Forever Learning Posted July 11, 2012 Author Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Hey SomeDude - that link you posted to the Cougar making a meow sound, that was so cute! I would have never guessed it! Awesome, I learned something new. Can't believe cougars attack hikers and such, they seem so cute when they meow like that! I almost want a pet cougar! Ok I have no idea what else to say to make this relate to my thread somehow. Sorry. Hmmm. I got nothing. I'm beat, I'm hitting the sack. Goodnight all! Even those with chips on their shoulders against women! I love you one and all! p.s. SomeDude, is that really your picture, the picture of the nice guy you had in your link? If so, you really are cute! And yes, I do have a body similar to the pic you had of the lady in the bikini. Pretty cool huh? Toodles, young grasshopper! Edited July 11, 2012 by Forever Learning
somedude81 Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Hey SomeDude - that link you posted to the Cougar making a meow sound, that was so cute! I would have never guessed it! Awesome, I learned something new. Can't believe cougars attack hikers and such, they seem so cute when they meow like that! I almost want a pet cougar! So you've never been attacked by a house cat? House cats are really just mini-cougars. The only difference is that Mr. Picklestein can't kill you when he gets mad. Ok I have no idea what else to say to make this relate to my thread somehow. Sorry. Hmmm. I got nothing. I'm beat, I'm hitting the sack. Goodnight all! Even those with chips on their shoulders against women! I love you one and all! Good night, it was an interesting thread. p.s. SomeDude, is that really your picture, the picture of the nice guy you had in your link? If so, you really are cute! And yes, I do have a body similar to the pic you had of the lady in the bikini. Pretty cool huh? Toodles, young grasshopper! LOL no Just a generic nice guy. 1
USMCHokie Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 This is a very interesting thread, Forever! After watching The Science of Sex Appeal the other night, I think all of this can be attributed to a single sentence: We all fundamentally try to mate with the most sexually attractive person we can. Let me try to explain...first we have to start out with the assumption that men want the hottest girl they can get, both in beauty and in youth while, women want the hottest man they can get, both in terms of beauty, but instead of youth, status. So we'll start with the men...they will target the youngest, most attractive women they can get...so women who are either younger or more beautiful get taken up. Meanwhile, women are targeting men with physical attractiveness and status, so older men with more established careers and all the hot guys get taken up. So now I'll break down who actually gets targeted with some arbitrary age (30) for simplicity: All very attractive men and women in the top 15%. Women < 30 years old (youth) Men > 30 years old (status) So who is left that hasn't been targeted? Men < 30 years old who aren't in the top 15% of attractiveness. Women > 30 years old who aren't in the top 15% of attractiveness. Remember that the age I used (30) was completely arbitrary, but I'm guessing it floats at some point between 30 and 40, where the tides turn, and dating begins to "favor" men... This is very simplified and isn't absolute, but if you are a man below age X, it might seem like there aren't any single woman, while if you are a woman above age X, it might seem like there aren't any single men. 2
Eclypse Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 Forever Learning you rock I think you're my favorite female poster. Don't let the haters bring you down. I think there a lot of lonely single people out there. They tend to be those who might not be the most attractive, however they refuse to date people on an equal level to them. Of course, this is all subjective. I have a gf now, but really it was a lucky chance we met. Before that I was unlucky completely in dating. Some people just haven't met that special one just yet. And of course this message board is just a small sample of the population and probably not the most accurate one as there tend to be a lot of bitter people here. I haven't seen many of these characters in my day to day life. P.S: Somedude I'd do anything possible to get FL to come to you if I was you that is. Failing that she can come here to Australia 1
USMCHokie Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 And of course this message board is just a small sample of the population and probably not the most accurate one as there tend to be a lot of bitter people here. I haven't seen many of these characters in my day to day life. These couple sentences jumped out at me and made me ponder...have you not seen these characters in your day to day life because those people haven't divulged their personal thoughts and feelings at such an intimate level as those on LS...? Wow, this might be a revelation that'd be threadworthy for me... 1
mario_C Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 OK back to the topic: given the 10 men and 10 women in the hypothesis, the 10 women will lock all potential dates out until the perfect man, who does not exist, comes along. No excuses are too ridiculous or too flimsy for the modern girl or woman. The 10 men will either be too whiny or unattractive to overcome the lockout, or will scare women with their idiotic neanderthal behavior, or fall apart at the seams at the sight of the women and run for the comfort of their online porn and Playstations. PS I generally enjoy your posts, FL, except for:Just remember, sometimes we miss the forest for the trees, when we only think in terms of black and white, and don't allow for the 50 shades of grey in between. Those 50 shades might be the best place of all in which to hang out! Cheers love! so, you're looking for another abusive relationship, the kind that book glamorizes? 1
Eclypse Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 These couple sentences jumped out at me and made me ponder...have you not seen these characters in your day to day life because those people haven't divulged their personal thoughts and feelings at such an intimate level as those on LS...? Wow, this might be a revelation that'd be threadworthy for me... That actually is a possibility! I don't know many people to be able to talk about issues like this so candidly. Most people just say the PC thing if anything relating to gender is brought up. I have no idea if the girl sitting across from me on the train right now will only date men 6 foot + as per LS "norm" or if shes willing to give any nice guy a go. Or she could be a lesbian. All I do know is she is really hot So I guess the jury's out... 1
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