sally4sara Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 When its all said and done, nothing here being offered up is anything but opinion. You meet a woman who seems too aggressive/masculine? She isn't. She just isn't your type. But guaranteed she is someone's type. No point in telling her what she needs to change because you are not her target audience. Same goes for men. A guy comes off as a not masculine enough for you- so what? He still can be to someone. Like the cosmetology instructor at the tech school when I was a teen; a bit too flamboyant for my tastes. Yet he had been happily married for 20+ years with 5 kids to show for it. He was clearly masculine enough for someone. OP says: "Ladies Ladies! Don't forget your femininity! I woke up this morning and sure enough my vagina was still between my legs and I still need to wear a bra lest my jumblies jiggle too much for passing motorists' safety. How the hell could I forget my femininity?! 3
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Oh, yeah. I never forget my femininity even for a moment. Sometimes I wish I could!
Feelsgoodman Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 The days of pretending to be a wilting violet of sorts are over. We get to be who we really are. If we find a mate who loves us for who we really are, that is beautiful. The days of being a gentleman are also over. Men get to be who they really are. If we find a mate who loves us for who we really are, that is beautiful. If not, there's always casual sex.
Feelsgoodman Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 I woke up this morning and sure enough my vagina was still between my legs and I still need to wear a bra lest my jumblies jiggle too much for passing motorists' safety. How the hell could I forget my femininity?! No offence, but if that's your idea of 'femininity', you are nothing but a dickless man with tits. Why would any straight male want a long-term relationship with such a creature? Casual sex? Sure. Cohabitation/marriage? No way.
sally4sara Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 The days of being a gentleman are also over. Men get to be who they really are. If we find a mate who loves us for who we really are, that is beautiful. If not, there's always casual sex. It seems what you're quoting, you took as a strike against men and I'm not sure why. When people of any gender stay true to themselves, it isn't like they're doing so to give others the finger in life. Its almost like you're saying people should do whatever it takes to get someone else to approve of them. If that is what you're doing THAT IS YOUR CHOICE, but I promise, you don't have to. Be a "gentleman" or not, just don't expect someone who doesn't warm to your style to get over it and stay with you. Find someone who likes your flavor. Don't go trying to be pistachio when you're a rum raisin. You'll just make you and some pistachio lover miserable.
sally4sara Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 No offence, but if that's your idea of 'femininity', you are nothing but a dickless man with tits. Why would any straight male want a long-term relationship with such a creature? Casual sex? Sure. Cohabitation/marriage? No way. No offense? I think you're a liar. I don't know why any straight male would - you should probably ask my husband. Oh and the other 3 fellas that proposed to me prior to him.
ThaWholigan Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 I have often commented that I feel that masculinity and femininity can be embodied in varying levels within each individual, and some resonate with the feminine more than the masculine and some vice versa. Men generally are born with more masculine (as you would do), however all of us have some measure of feminine energy with us as men, some have very little, some have quite a lot. It is the same with women - while many women are naturally feminine, some embody more masculine energy than others and resonate with this more. Hence, asking women to embrace their femininity is one thing, but they must also embrace the other traits within them that make them whole. I don't think anyone should forget the traits they embody that is more commonly associated with femininity. And I don't mean effeminate behavior, I mean positive traits that could be associated with feminine ideal.
maybealone Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Be a "gentleman" or not, just don't expect someone who doesn't warm to your style to get over it and stay with you. Find someone who likes your flavor. Don't go trying to be pistachio when you're a rum raisin. You'll just make you and some pistachio lover miserable. Exactly! I don't understand why so much discussion is allocated to the idea that "ALL men need to be this way and all women need to deal with it." Let men be who they want to be, let women be who they want to be, and let pistachios find their pistachio match while rum raisins find their rum raisin match. It's not a competition to see who can attract the most people. As far as I'm concerned, it's a waste of everyone's time when you aren't true to yourself.
Author Badsingularity Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 A lot of deffensiveness from women who this post wasn't even directed at. I wasn't realy speaking to the majority of women, but to the minority that behave a certain way and think it's attractive. There are women out there that are trying to prove something because they are insecure. They intentionally set out to be more aggressive more masculine and more domineering than most people are in order to prove something. Most men I know find this behaviour from these women very very unattractive and the women doing this often think that the way they are acting is attractive because they are attracted to those traits in men.
Feelsgoodman Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 There are women out there that are trying to prove something because they are insecure. Such as some of the women who posted in this thread?
BetheButterfly Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 I've noticed more and more women nowadays are developing overly masculine personalities. This in turn can keep them single for much longer than they would like or even permanently. The sad thing is that they don't even know why this is happening. Most women are attracted to masculinity in men. (true masculinity, not the fake chest puffing kind.) Most women also find men that are overly feminine unattractive. The opposite is true for men. Most men are attracted to femininity in women. Most men also find women that are overly masculine unattractive. This is completely natural and makes men and women want to come together like hot wet magnets....but..the human race is currently in a very unnatural state and this is causing a lot of confusion between men and women. I've become very aware over the years that many men and women do not understand these differences between them and believe that whatever they find attractive themselves should also be attractive to the opposite sex. It's just not true. Ladies if you act as though you are over flowing with testosterone and are the alpha male gorilla of a group you are going to have a repulsive effect on most men. Even if you find that attractive in a man. Most men will not find that attractive in you. It is good for women to be confident, assertive, fun and outgoing. These things do not take away from their attractiveness, as long as they don't forget their femininity. When balanced correctly these things can make a woman super attractive and many women are able to do just that. What do you define as feminine? Just curious. Thanks! Interesting thread
ThaWholigan Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 A lot of deffensiveness from women who this post wasn't even directed at. I wasn't realy speaking to the majority of women, but to the minority that behave a certain way and think it's attractive. There are women out there that are trying to prove something because they are insecure. They intentionally set out to be more aggressive more masculine and more domineering than most people are in order to prove something. Most men I know find this behaviour from these women very very unattractive and the women doing this often think that the way they are acting is attractive because they are attracted to those traits in men. I would venture to say that there are a subset of men who do indeed respond to those characteristics, despite their masculine nature . When I am out with my mother, she often notes the behaviors of women and their husbands. My mum is traditionally feminine and expects a man to be masculine usually (fortunately for me, she never gave me terrible advice like just being nice), so it riles her when the women treat their men a certain way or dominate them. Some men really do like to be the passive one in the relationship, strangely enough.
HopelessRomantic76 Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 I would venture to say that there are a subset of men who do indeed respond to those characteristics, despite their masculine nature . When I am out with my mother, she often notes the behaviors of women and their husbands. My mum is traditionally feminine and expects a man to be masculine usually (fortunately for me, she never gave me terrible advice like just being nice), so it riles her when the women treat their men a certain way or dominate them. Some men really do like to be the passive one in the relationship, strangely enough. No offense but your mom should mind her own business its one thing to beleive in a way to do something but when you believe everyone should be the same its a bit close minded Just because i have a vaigna does not mean like a robot i should act in a specific way,if some women like to be told what to do and when to do it like a good soldier cool but dont expect everyone to be the same
Author Badsingularity Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) No offense but your mom should mind her own business its one thing to beleive in a way to do something but when you believe everyone should be the same its a bit close minded Just because i have a vaigna does not mean like a robot i should act in a specific way,if some women like to be told what to do and when to do it like a good soldier cool but dont expect everyone to be the same lol. ? Women are always telling men that are being whiny and are always crying to man up, act like a man, and display more masculine behaviour if they want to attract women. (I agree with them most of the time) Yet if you suggest to a subset of women to act a little more feminine and to act more like a woman, in order to attract men, these same women that tell men to act more like men get very deffensive and say that they shouldn't have to change just like the men do when they are told to man up. Interesting. Edited July 12, 2012 by Badsingularity 2
HelenDanger Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Dammit, I think I forgot my femininity on the counter at Starbucks the other day. If you guys happen to see my femininity laying around here anywhere let me know, okay? 2
Author Badsingularity Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 Dammit, I think I forgot my femininity on the counter at Starbucks the other day. If you guys happen to see my femininity laying around here anywhere let me know, okay? Sure no problem I may borrow it for a little while though, my wife says I've been a little too rough around the edges lately 1
Author Badsingularity Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 Look at that. It's already working:) My wife says thanks
samsungxoxo Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Exactly! I don't understand why so much discussion is allocated to the idea that "ALL men need to be this way and all women need to deal with it." Let men be who they want to be, let women be who they want to be, and let pistachios find their pistachio match while rum raisins find their rum raisin match. It's not a competition to see who can attract the most people. As far as I'm concerned, it's a waste of everyone's time when you aren't true to yourself.Because the bitter ones want to rule out how you're suppose to be like according to their ''Standards'' and their ''Because that's the way it is''. Don't like him/her, ok then go for next one that won't mind your expectations. There's someone for everyone out there.
threebyfate Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 *tosses used tampon into thread* I'm so woman/feminine! 2
samsungxoxo Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 When it comes to qualities men value in women, good looks, sexuality, pleasant demeanor, loyalty and ability to create domestic comfort are FAR more important than her academic training. If this comes as a surprise, you know nothing about men.Then why don't you log off, go out there and find her? There are many out there who won't mind staying at home all day long and never working nor studying. Find your nurturing, stay-at-home future wife-to-be. By the way, those traits are easy. Any of us can do that.
Author Badsingularity Posted July 13, 2012 Author Posted July 13, 2012 *tosses used tampon into thread* I'm so woman/feminine! close thread
Author Badsingularity Posted July 13, 2012 Author Posted July 13, 2012 What do you define as feminine? Just curious. Thanks! Interesting thread I gave a list of what I think are feminine traits in post #6
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 I'm taking this as encouragement to let my PMS completely loose! Rawwwr!
Woggle Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Then why don't you log off, go out there and find her? There are many out there who won't mind staying at home all day long and never working nor studying. Find your nurturing, stay-at-home future wife-to-be. By the way, those traits are easy. Any of us can do that. If those traits are so easy then why is it so damn hard to find that these days.
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 If those traits are so easy then why is it so damn hard to find that these days. Maybe because even if they're easy, not that many are interested in doing them?
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