Decoding the Female O.L.D. Profile

[Green Light]

And these brownie points you are trying to earn, remind me again what they get you? We all do have our own flaws, but western feminist society doesn't allow you to mention female flaws. Affirmative action, anti-male hiring practices, and quotas, and a biased court system, have stripped away many men's ability to be all the things women demand of men, and misandry is rampant and accepted in our society. It doesn't matter if little boys can go to college,so we'll make it harder for them and easier for women and even though women's college sports are virtually unwatched, on TV by anyone outside the state of Tennessee, they will take from the boys and give to the girls. Guys like YOU are why our country is going to hell. Guys with white knight syndrome don't get laid, they just make **** worse for all of us. The government is full of guys who enable misandry and feminazi ideals, but at least they get money for selling out, what's your excuse?

 

I saw a commercial the other day on TV. I had the sound down but the commercial pictured this young mother and her little boy. The little boy would make a mess and then they would show the mother making a face, and then the boy would do some other mischievous thing and the mother would make another dour face. Then at the end it showed this ugly looking plastic device that women have implanted in their vag and it is a form of birth control. It's as though they were saying "have one of these implanted soon or run the risk of giving birth to another one of those awful male creatures that you find such a burden."

[brahmabull117]

And these brownie points you are trying to earn, remind me again what they get you? We all do have our own flaws, but western feminist society doesn't allow you to mention female flaws. Affirmative action, anti-male hiring practices, and quotas, and a biased court system, have stripped away many men's ability to be all the things women demand of men, and misandry is rampant and accepted in our society. It doesn't matter if little boys can go to college,so we'll make it harder for them and easier for women and even though women's college sports are virtually unwatched, on TV by anyone outside the state of Tennessee, they will take from the boys and give to the girls. Guys like YOU are why our country is going to hell. Guys with white knight syndrome don't get laid, they just make **** worse for all of us. The government is full of guys who enable misandry and feminazi ideals, but at least they get money for selling out, what's your excuse?

 

 

I must be living in another planet because I have never experienced any of these "problems" you're talking about

[sid3]

 

 

you could move out of the butt hole of america and perhaps you'd meet nice people but you probably aren't one yourself.

 

Thats funny, you quoted me for something I didn't write. Well done.

[samsungxoxo]

He is smarter than you.

No, he isn't and BTW that's not my post.

[phineas]

A straw man is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.

 

Claiming op wants a "porn star..blah.blah.blah" is a perfect example of a strawman.

 

You don't want to be called out on it?

Don't do it.

Seems simple enough to me.

[phineas]

No, he isn't and BTW that's not my post.

 

There is all kinds of messed up quoting going on in this here thread.

[sid3]

A straw man is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.

 

Claiming op wants a "porn star..blah.blah.blah" is a perfect example of a strawman.

 

You don't want to be called out on it?

Don't do it.

Seems simple enough to me.

 

Who cares if they're called out on it, don't be such a simpleton and it won't seem so simple.

And cite your source next time, I've read enough of your posts to be sure you needed to Google that definition. Yep, called you out on it, Hahaha!

[oaks]

They quote that stupid Marilyn Monroe quote: "If you won't accept me at my WORST, you do not deserve me at my BEST!"

 

Sometimes it just means "I didn't really put any thought into how people might interpret my profile, and it won't let me finish the registration if I don't put some words here so I'll cut and paste this." But, then, why would you want to date someone who doesn't put any thought into dating? hmmm

 

It's quite telling that they think taking advice from someone who selfdestructed by 36 is a good idea.

 

Next time I see this in a profile for someone who is over 36 maybe I'll point out that at her age, Marilyn's best probably wasn't all that great.

 

I did once have a fairly long discussion with someone online who had only that quote in her profile. My opening line was a different Marilyn quote, and the suggestion that we could converse in Marilyn quotes for a while but ultimately would have to start speaking for ourselves. That got her attention. She just thought the quote sounded good, and hadn't considered it beyond that. Didn't get a date, though.

 

I'm just tired of these threads hating on women. They're everywhere,

 

 

Having already reached that conclusion on the last page I'm surprised that you're still reading, let alone posting, in this thread!

 

I think threads like this are just the yin to the yang of "where are all the good men?", which we get with similar regularity. Or, more generally, I don't think this forum is particularly any more "anti women" than it is "anti men", and it's not entirely surprising to find that people on a dating advice forum have evidential anecdotes to share about bad experiences with the other sex...

[phineas]

Who cares if they're called out on it, don't be such a simpleton and it won't seem so simple.

And cite your source next time, I've read enough of your posts to be sure you needed to Google that definition. Yep, called you out on it, Hahaha!

 

They care since they whine about it?

 

Is the definition wrong?

Do you not know what a strawman is?

 

Do you not know what a dictionary is?

Do I honestly have to provide a link to strawman for you?

 

Talk about simpletons.

[phineas]

 

I think threads like this are just the yin to the yang of "where are all the good men?", which we get with similar regularity. Or, more generally, I don't think this forum is particularly any more "anti women" than it is "anti men", and it's not entirely surprising to find that people on a dating advice forum have evidential anecdotes to share about bad experiences with the other sex...

 

I was going to mention this exact same thing but I figured it would fall on deaf ears.

I saw that thread.

Did not read.

 

I don't see anyone "hating" on women here in general. Just some annoyances and as you said some funny stories about the unrealistic ones online dating & there are some doozies.

 

someone is free to start one up about men. I'd probably read it & use what is posted to better my own profile if possible.

[Stellar Wench]

After browsing some online dating sites like POF, or Match, I have noticed, and I am sure the rest of you have too, certain code phrases and words women use when they can't really say what they want. Starting with the first and most obvious, "financially secure". We all know this means I am a great big gold digging whore. Another favorite of mine is "I prefer someone who is free to travel as I am" In other words I want someone who is rich enough to take me places, and has no kids to divert attention from my selfish ass. You get the point. Anybody else pick up any good ones from waitresses and daycare workers who are mysterious world travelers? List them here. :-)

It's pointless trying to deceipher anything. Those sites are what they are. Meat markets.

[Anela]

Very few men bothered to read my profile. Most of the messages were along the lines of, "sexy lady," and that was it.

 

Threads that involve experiences in which people have lied about something, are different. Instead it's, "American women are fat, ugly, and full of themselves. They want tall, rich men.." blah, blah, blah.

 

I'm sure that I would have had better luck with a few men, if my self-esteem hadn't been thrashed. I also encountered too many men my age, who were going for the ideal when it came to women, and my being kind, smart (to a point), not fat (not skinny, but that's due to a couple of health problems) - I could go on. I was too old for several, even though we were the same age. I only cancelled on the few who sounded nice and asked me out, because I didn't feel good, and didn't think they should have to deal with the crazy.

[Algermas]

Very few men bothered to read my profile. Most of the messages were along the lines of, "sexy lady," and that was it.

 

Threads that involve experiences in which people have lied about something, are different. Instead it's, "American women are fat, ugly, and full of themselves. They want tall, rich men.." blah, blah, blah.

 

I'm sure that I would have had better luck with a few men, if my self-esteem hadn't been thrashed. I also encountered too many men my age, who were going for the ideal when it came to women, and my being kind, smart (to a point), not fat (not skinny, but that's due to a couple of health problems) - I could go on. I was too old for several, even though we were the same age. I only cancelled on the few who sounded nice and asked me out, because I didn't feel good, and didn't think they should have to deal with the crazy.

 

Only poor and undesirable men have to date women their own age.

[Nicomis]

That's just it. It was funny and light hearted till a few individuals got all butt hurt, and started talking smack. There is a huge double standard as far as what's PC to say, and I don't really care to comply. This was not a thread called "women suck and should die in a fire", it was about decoding the truth behind the crap women say on dating sites. Is anyone prepared to say they don't lie on those site in huge numbers? Is anyone prepared to say with complete certainty that there are not a huge number of gold diggers on those sites?Obese women calling themselves curvy? 4's acting like 10's? They are all over those sites people, get over it! I don't hate women, I hate radical feminism. You know why? Because it is detrimental to my well being and has on more than one occasion made my life harder than need be.If one of these comedic generalizations pisses you off that much, maybe you should ask yourself why it touches a nerve. "Well men do this, and men do that" GREAT!, but this doesn't make my observations about women on dating sites any less valid. People, I put these same observations on my FB page, and the people who commented and liked the most were women! You are the same people that when something negative is said about Obama, you have to counter with something about Bush, or vice versa. As though everyone who hates Obama loves Bush. (I hate them both)

[MrCastle]

That's just it. It was funny and light hearted till a few individuals got all butt hurt, and started talking smack. There is a huge double standard as far as what's PC to say, and I don't really care to comply. This was not a thread called "women suck and should die in a fire", it was about decoding the truth behind the crap women say on dating sites. Is anyone prepared to say they don't lie on those site in huge numbers? Is anyone prepared to say with complete certainty that there are not a huge number of gold diggers on those sites?Obese women calling themselves curvy? 4's acting like 10's? They are all over those sites people, get over it! I don't hate women, I hate radical feminism. You know why? Because it is detrimental to my well being and has on more than one occasion made my life harder than need be.If one of these comedic generalizations pisses you off that much, maybe you should ask yourself why it touches a nerve. "Well men do this, and men do that" GREAT!, but this doesn't make my observations about women on dating sites any less valid. People, I put these same observations on my FB page, and the people who commented and liked the most were women!

 

fantastic post

[It's Just Me]

I posted this in another thread, but it bears repeating here (and may balance things out a bit). FWIW, I do agree that many female profiles leave a lot to be desired - especially the ones that show suggestive poses and mega-boobage, then specifically state "if all you want is sex, please move on."

 

My experience with men and OLD was the opposite. Very few revealed clues about themselves in their profiles. The Big Secret always came out when you met in person, though, or a few dates later.

 

I found my man through OLD - but it took 18 months of persistent optimism and belief that he was out there. In the meantime, I took the opportunity to gather entertaining first-meet stories that still make my girlfriends howl with laughter. For the record, I had been divorced, and on my own for five years, with a great job and my **** together, and only asked for the same. The stories, to wit:

 

1. I live in my mother's basement, because my ex has taken all of my money. Is that a problem?

2. I have Tourette's, and sniff and nod and make funny noises while talking, but failed to disclose this to you before meeting. Is that a problem?

3. My junk hasn't worked in a decade, even with Viagra. Is that a problem?

4. I live in the basement of my former home, because my ex and I decided this would be best for the kids. Is that a problem?

5. I took the bus here because I've been convicted of multiple DUIs and can't insure my car - oh, and I'm still in AA. Is that a problem?

6. I found out last week that my wife has been cheating on me with my brother-in-law over the past four years, and now the whole family is messed up. Is that a problem?

7. All women are money-grubbing bitches. I know this because I have three ex-wives. Is that a problem?

8. My photos were dark and/or showed me in sunglasses. That's because I'm missing an eye, and failed to disclose that before we met. Is that a problem?

 

These were all just the tip of the iceberg when it came to finding men online who were honest and had their sh*t together. Caveat emptor.

[phineas]

I posted this in another thread, but it bears repeating here (and may balance things out a bit). FWIW, I do agree that many female profiles leave a lot to be desired - especially the ones that show suggestive poses and mega-boobage, then specifically state "if all you want is sex, please move on."

 

My experience with men and OLD was the opposite. Very few revealed clues about themselves in their profiles. The Big Secret always came out when you met in person, though, or a few dates later.

 

I found my man through OLD - but it took 18 months of persistent optimism and belief that he was out there. In the meantime, I took the opportunity to gather entertaining first-meet stories that still make my girlfriends howl with laughter. For the record, I had been divorced, and on my own for five years, with a great job and my **** together, and only asked for the same. The stories, to wit:

 

1. I live in my mother's basement, because my ex has taken all of my money. Is that a problem?

2. I have Tourette's, and sniff and nod and make funny noises while talking, but failed to disclose this to you before meeting. Is that a problem?

3. My junk hasn't worked in a decade, even with Viagra. Is that a problem?

4. I live in the basement of my former home, because my ex and I decided this would be best for the kids. Is that a problem?

5. I took the bus here because I've been convicted of multiple DUIs and can't insure my car - oh, and I'm still in AA. Is that a problem?

6. I found out last week that my wife has been cheating on me with my brother-in-law over the past four years, and now the whole family is messed up. Is that a problem?

7. All women are money-grubbing bitches. I know this because I have three ex-wives. Is that a problem?

8. My photos were dark and/or showed me in sunglasses. That's because I'm missing an eye, and failed to disclose that before we met. Is that a problem?

 

These were all just the tip of the iceberg when it came to finding men online who were honest and had their sh*t together. Caveat emptor.

 

 

How old are you?

What prompted you to meet them?

I'm 40, do not have any of the above issues & in shape.

I'm also 5'8" & left my salary blank so i'm either really ugly or i got filtered out based on my e-stats.

[It's Just Me]

I'm 47. I'd say you are in the rare 15% portion of dateable men.

 

All of the above seemed nice enough on email. When I was searching, I didn't use criteria like height, weight or salary stuff. All I wanted was a reasonably local guy in a good place, both in his life and in his head. Most of the men I met were in neither of those places.

[YellowShark]

1. I live in my mother's basement, because my ex has taken all of my money. Is that a problem?

2. I have Tourette's, and sniff and nod and make funny noises while talking, but failed to disclose this to you before meeting. Is that a problem?

3. My junk hasn't worked in a decade, even with Viagra. Is that a problem?

4. I live in the basement of my former home, because my ex and I decided this would be best for the kids. Is that a problem?

5. I took the bus here because I've been convicted of multiple DUIs and can't insure my car - oh, and I'm still in AA. Is that a problem?

6. I found out last week that my wife has been cheating on me with my brother-in-law over the past four years, and now the whole family is messed up. Is that a problem?

7. All women are money-grubbing bitches. I know this because I have three ex-wives. Is that a problem?

8. My photos were dark and/or showed me in sunglasses. That's because I'm missing an eye, and failed to disclose that before we met. Is that a problem?

 

These were all just the tip of the iceberg when it came to finding men online who were honest and had their sh*t together. Caveat emptor.

 

Funny. Because it is true. I am a guy and a few I experienced were:

 

1. (On a 2nd date) Uhhh... Remember when I told ya I was separated and divorcing.. well my EX is being released from prison for dealing coke and has no place to stay, so he's gonna stay with me for a bit. Is that a problem?

 

2. (On a first date, she walks up and my mouth drops - in a bad way) Oh... those pictures are a couple years old. I've had both arms and legs covered in tattoos since then. Is that a problem?

 

3. (On a first date) What happened to my marriage? I cheated. Is that a problem?

 

4. (20 minutes after meeting.) Let's go out to my van and F___. Is that a problem?

 

5. (On a first date, barely recognized her) Oh.. My profile picture? It was in the Dominican, I think that trip was in 2003. Is that a problem?

 

Anyhow not to thread jack with funny dating horror stories I have two things to say.

 

1) This is hardly a woman-bashing thread. Some of you ladies are totally projecting. Sorry, but you are. Men do stupid f'ing things and so do women. That's life. So some men here are venting, don't take it as a personal indictment of *all* women. Use the information to learn what can be triggers in OLD profiles.

 

2) IMHO You should ask personal questions such as financial AFTER initial contact. Putting it out there on your profile makes me think you are looking for money, not love.

[phineas]

I'm 47. I'd say you are in the rare 15% portion of dateable men.

 

All of the above seemed nice enough on email. When I was searching, I didn't use criteria like height, weight or salary stuff. All I wanted was a reasonably local guy in a good place, both in his life and in his head. Most of the men I met were in neither of those places.

 

And i've been told my profile was ok also.

I'm 40yrs old I don't feel hyping my profile up to make me seem like the "most interesting man..." is honest cause i'm not.

 

I'm a 40yr old father of two little ones (that is probably another issue also) so i'm not out partying all the time or going on adventures.

 

But i'm always baffled how a woman my age with little one's of her own are able to do the 500 activities she says she regularly does plus traveling all on her receptionist salary.

[Nicomis]

I posted this in another thread, but it bears repeating here (and may balance things out a bit). FWIW, I do agree that many female profiles leave a lot to be desired - especially the ones that show suggestive poses and mega-boobage, then specifically state "if all you want is sex, please move on."

 

My experience with men and OLD was the opposite. Very few revealed clues about themselves in their profiles. The Big Secret always came out when you met in person, though, or a few dates later.

 

I found my man through OLD - but it took 18 months of persistent optimism and belief that he was out there. In the meantime, I took the opportunity to gather entertaining first-meet stories that still make my girlfriends howl with laughter. For the record, I had been divorced, and on my own for five years, with a great job and my **** together, and only asked for the same. The stories, to wit:

 

1. I live in my mother's basement, because my ex has taken all of my money. Is that a problem?

2. I have Tourette's, and sniff and nod and make funny noises while talking, but failed to disclose this to you before meeting. Is that a problem?

3. My junk hasn't worked in a decade, even with Viagra. Is that a problem?

4. I live in the basement of my former home, because my ex and I decided this would be best for the kids. Is that a problem?

5. I took the bus here because I've been convicted of multiple DUIs and can't insure my car - oh, and I'm still in AA. Is that a problem?

6. I found out last week that my wife has been cheating on me with my brother-in-law over the past four years, and now the whole family is messed up. Is that a problem?

7. All women are money-grubbing bitches. I know this because I have three ex-wives. Is that a problem?

8. My photos were dark and/or showed me in sunglasses. That's because I'm missing an eye, and failed to disclose that before we met. Is that a problem?

 

These were all just the tip of the iceberg when it came to finding men online who were honest and had their sh*t together. Caveat emptor.

 

Was somebody really missing an eye? That's awesome! I once had a woman fail to disclose that she had cerebral palsy. You wanna talk about uncomfortable dinners...

[oaks]

Was somebody really missing an eye? That's awesome! I once had a woman fail to disclose that she had cerebral palsy. You wanna talk about uncomfortable dinners...

 

I had a date with a woman who had failed to mention that she needed a stick to walk because of a neurological condition (and my profile was fairly big on wanting a partner who I could go hiking with etc), and another one where she had failed to mention that she was pregnant. I kinda felt sorry for the first one, but with the second one I was more like "wtf?"

[mesmerized]

Sarah Michaels was curvy, women who say this in OLD are either pudgy or plain old fat.

 

I'm probably even curvier than her but I'm afraid to say that on OLD sites cause men would think I'm fat/obese. In person they would all agree and use the word to describe me.

[mesmerized]

I had a date with a woman who had failed to mention that she needed a stick to walk because of a neurological condition (and my profile was fairly big on wanting a partner who I could go hiking with etc), and another one where she had failed to mention that she was pregnant. I kinda felt sorry for the first one, but with the second one I was more like "wtf?"

 

I had a lot of men lie about their height, post misleading pictures...That's just how online is, it's not really specific to one gender.

[phineas]

I had a date with a woman who had failed to mention that she needed a stick to walk because of a neurological condition (and my profile was fairly big on wanting a partner who I could go hiking with etc), and another one where she had failed to mention that she was pregnant. I kinda felt sorry for the first one, but with the second one I was more like "wtf?"

 

Ya know, i'm big on hiking & camping & overnight hikes & I actually asked this in emails & later I meet the women & they are total girly girls who think camping is a motel room without air conditioning.

 

I just don't understand why their still meeting me?