Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Not that you're perspectives will affect my decisions BUT just out of curiosity's sake. If a lady got plastic surgery that looked completely natural but you found out later, what would you think, feel, do? And a breast augmentation? Saggy or perky and fake? And NOW there are brazilian butt lifts, i.e. fat transfer from the stomach to the butt (mainly in FL). Hmm...
amaysngrace Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 plastic surgery that looked completely natural ... not that my opinion matters but I think that's an oxymoron 2
Author Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 not that my opinion matters but I think that's an oxymoron TRUE. Very true. But the idea in itself. For example, if an average woman, who is a few eyes is unattractive and to others is attractive, had the choice of making herself above average, is this looked down upon by yourself?
dreamingoftigers Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 I am an ugly woman. If I had the money I would get so much personal training and surgery that my mother wouldn't be able to recognize me. I am so glad that my daughter takes after her father's sideof the family looks-wise except for her big, beautiful eyes
amaysngrace Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 is this looked down upon by yourself? It doesn't really matter if I look down on it or not. I would just say that be careful that you aren't trying to fix up the outside if the work should really be focused on the inside.
Author Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 Yes, I find it funny, a guy I was dating stated he liked girls without makeup and then I went without makeup and he was shocked (not in a good way)... Well you SAID you liked girls without makeup. Or did he mean he likes girls who look good without makeup? That's a huge difference. He'd better start practicing his ninja skills at distinguishing the makeup-full and the makeup-less... Hmm, sometimes I wonder if people think they can have it all... Or if they think they will ever age...
Samilia Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 I don't like plastic surgery, I like natural men. However, if someone is so unattractive that it's making him (or her) miserable, I don't see why not. Going to the gym is a good way to enhance someone's natural beauty, 10 bucks a month at planet fitness.
Author Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 It doesn't really matter if I look down on it or not. I would just say that be careful that you aren't trying to fix up the outside if the work should really be focused on the inside. Ah yes, I've heard this quite a bit. I think you're right though. A few weeks ago I went completely makeup-less and although looking like an aged albino, I felt quite comfortable and proud in my own skin for the first time since I was 11. Not sure if i will get many dates like that though, as sad as reality is. Had I went makeup-less for my entire life, I imagine that would be a different story, identity-wise. So enticing it is to make an average face beyond average. I went to the mall today and I nearly cried when I looked at myself. Yes, you CAN love yourself first, but when others look at you and confuse you as being stressed or angry or tired when you're NOT, that's maybe a sign that you need to accurately represent externally who you feel to be internally. IMO.
Samilia Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Ah yes, I've heard this quite a bit. I think you're right though. A few weeks ago I went completely makeup-less and although looking like an aged albino, I felt quite comfortable and proud in my own skin for the first time since I was 11. Not sure if i will get many dates like that though, as sad as reality is. Had I went makeup-less for my entire life, I imagine that would be a different story, identity-wise. So enticing it is to make an average face beyond average. I went to the mall today and I nearly cried when I looked at myself. Yes, you CAN love yourself first, but when others look at you and confuse you as being stressed or angry or tired when you're NOT, that's maybe a sign that you need to accurately represent externally who you feel to be internally. IMO. I don't wear make up at work, rarely. I don't wear make up at home either, sometimes when I go out or if I feel like it. Either way, I feel attractive.
Author Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 I don't wear make up at work, rarely. I don't wear make up at home either, sometimes when I go out or if I feel like it. Either way, I feel attractive. Well lucky you! You won the ovarian lottery. Not all of us are as fortunate. 1
FitChick Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Why would anyone want to date this hideous middle-aged woman (54) who has had several cosmetic procedures, when they could have this natural, younger woman who is aging gracefully? Men do prefer younger women you know. 2
Author Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 Why would anyone want to date this hideous middle-aged woman (54) who has had several cosmetic procedures, when they could have this natural, younger woman who is aging gracefully? Men do prefer younger women you know. And you will never be old, I'm sure.
Author Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 OOPS totally misread your post. Thought you were being pretentious. SORRY Good point though. Good point.
Anela Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Yes, I find it funny, a guy I was dating stated he liked girls without makeup and then I went without makeup and he was shocked (not in a good way)... Well you SAID you liked girls without makeup. Or did he mean he likes girls who look good without makeup? That's a huge difference. He'd better start practicing his ninja skills at distinguishing the makeup-full and the makeup-less... Hmm, sometimes I wonder if people think they can have it all... Or if they think they will ever age... It can be shocking when you realize that you are actually aging - that the number isn't just going up, but that you are getting the odd line and white hair, too. I've noticed that with some men: they say they like women who don't wear much makeup, and then obviously check out the girls who are fully made up, hair styled. Same goes for a few men I've known who complained about women only wanting someone who would spoil them: they chased the girls who obviously wanted that (and were beautiful, and spoiled for choice when it came to men).
Anela Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 I'm not entirely happy with the way I look, but I can't imagine having surgery to alter my looks, either. I feel better when I feel cleared and stronger through exercise, as well as when it helped me to look better, but feeling that you look good can obviously give one a boost. About ten years ago, I started purposely doing things like going to get the mail, walking the dogs, etc, without putting on makeup. One member of my family feels the need to be fully made up to leave the house for any reason, has freaked out about her hands showing a bit of age, etc. I'm trying to balance out my own feelings of doom that are related to aging; I want to look and feel good, but I don't want to fall into that hole of trying to be younger than I am.
writergal Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Better to grow old gracefully, than full of botox and other fillers that distort your facial features and breast size. I see plastic surgery as a waste of money because even if you pack your face full of filler, you'll still have saggy skin, wrinkle lines and discoloration. Plastic surgery doesn't prevent aging in any way, shape or form. It just makes you look un-natural. Look at what this young woman did to herself with plastic surgery, just so she could resemble a barbie doll. Gross! 2
Author Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 Ah yes, I remember I used to complain about older women who complained about men and then I aged 5 years in 2 hours and voila! It was almost like black magic. Could even be made into a movie. Speaking of movies, there is a movie where a handsome boy becomes a monster where he hides from everyone and then this girl finds him beautiful on the inside and then they fall in love. But do you think a movie like this could EVER be made about a woman who becomes a monster and then a guy falls in love with her because of what she is on the inside? I don't think so... 1
mesmerized Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 alIt can be shocking when you realize that you are actually aging - that the number isn't just going up, but that you are getting the odd line and white hair, too. I've noticed that with some men: they say they like women who don't wear much makeup, and then obviously check out the girls who are fully made up, hair styled. Same goes for a few men I've known who complained about women only wanting someone who would spoil them: they chased the girls who obviously wanted that (and were beautiful, and spoiled for choice when it came to men). Don't ever believe men when they say they like natural girls. They are the first ones to chase the dolled up girls. 1
Anela Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Ah yes, I remember I used to complain about older women who complained about men and then I aged 5 years in 2 hours and voila! It was almost like black magic. Could even be made into a movie. Speaking of movies, there is a movie where a handsome boy becomes a monster where he hides from everyone and then this girl finds him beautiful on the inside and then they fall in love. But do you think a movie like this could EVER be made about a woman who becomes a monster and then a guy falls in love with her because of what she is on the inside? I don't think so... I don't remember ever seeing that. It's usually Beauty and the Beast, just as you say. That's one thing that's struck me about most TV shows, books and movies: the good are beautiful, and the bad are ugly - unless they're vampires, and then they're forgiven for whatever they do, because they're in love with the gorgeous heroine, and they're trying to be good for her sake.
Author Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 Better to grow old gracefully, than full of botox and other fillers that distort your facial features and breast size. I see plastic surgery as a waste of money because even if you pack your face full of filler, you'll still have saggy skin, wrinkle lines and discoloration. Plastic surgery doesn't prevent aging in any way, shape or form. It just makes you look un-natural. mmmm gotta disagree on that one. If you are an esthetician, maybe you can argue on that one. But I'm guessing you are either, a) a young woman under 25 who has not yet experienced the trauma of pre-mature aging, or b) was born of a facially well-endowed breed of humans. So, don't be pretentious and judge others who get it done simply because you are blessed with smooth skin. If they want to be perty, let 'em without judging. In my opinion, the image below is pretty impressive and I'd much rather have the after pic... http://www.drkaram.com/images/photos_fat/pic117.jpg
writergal Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 mmmm gotta disagree on that one. If you are an esthetician, maybe you can argue on that one. But I'm guessing you are either, a) a young woman under 25 who has not yet experienced the trauma of pre-mature aging, or b) was born of a facially well-endowed breed of humans. So, don't be pretentious and judge others who get it done simply because you are blessed with smooth skin. If they want to be perty, let 'em without judging. In my opinion, the image below is pretty impressive and I'd much rather have the after pic... http://www.drkaram.com/images/photos_fat/pic117.jpg Wrong. I'm 41 and I"m not being pretentious. I'm still attractive for my age and have never had plastic surgery. I just take care of my skin and complexion and watch what I eat. I have some small patches of grey hair that I don't plan to color because I think that's a beautiful marker of aging. So chillax. I'm sharing my opinion. I think it's disgusting to alter your appearance for vanity's sake. If you like plastic surgery and plan to get it for yourself, go for it. We can agree to disagree.
irin Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 its so silly that people look down on those who get plastic surgery then put beauty at a pedestal. they are Hippocrats . if you ask the majority of young men who their ideal women is? their say some acttress or singer, whos had enough work done make anyone look like a goddess, e.g. Megan fox, how many guys have her as ideal of beauty then the same guys turn around and look down on girls who even think about getting plastic surgery. its so sad the she felt the need to do all that to herself. when she was pretty to start of with. so no in this day and age even natural beauty isnt enough for some. its a disgusting shallow world we live in!
Leigh 87 Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 Kris Kardashion and Sharon Osbourne have had excessive cosmetic work done... There IS a different between NATURAL cosmetic work, and darn right CRAZY................ For instance; I have broken my nose and it is now crooked. With a straightened nose, I would look more attractive. A nose is NOT detectable if it is a good one, that looks relatively the same as your old nose, but straighter and symmetrical. I had my teeth fixed and teeth whitened; I was about a 2/10 before I fixed my teeth, and started working out and got thin and fit and grew my hair nice and long - and I am not a solid 6 - 7. A lot of me think I am gorgeous, where as some think " meh, your a 6". Mostly online going on pics. LIFE IS A HECK OF A LOT BETTER WHEN YOUR NOT UGLY. That said, ugly people can enoy life too, the same way any attractive person can - I ust love the PERKS of SOME people thinking you are attractive. I really enjoy being attractive to some people. I know it is vain, but I am not going to neglect or work LESS HARD on the NON PHYSICAL aspects of me, JUST because I am not longer " ugly"... I man would prefer a natural beauty any day, regardless of how she got it done; he would prefer a women who had WORK done but looked naturally beautiful, to a ugly women. ........... Some men would get turned off, but as long as the work done looked NATURAL ( such as a slight nose job, and maybe one face lift when your 60) then it would probably not phase most men.
Leigh 87 Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 And COME ON - my nose is not big, but imagine a women who has a nose the size of Canada? If a womens nose is abnormally and remarkable LARGE, why would a guy look down on her, for reducing the size of her nose? If her nose made her unnatractive, and fixing it significantly improved her looks, why would ANY one judge a women for fixing a BIG problem? Of course, horrendous accidents are another thing and perfectl understandable -0 should you have burns and wan tto correct them........ Just because some people have real deformities, though, I still think a HUGE, abnormally large nose, or HUGE, remarkable huge ears - it is still worth fixing if you can afford it.
Author Celtica Posted July 4, 2012 Author Posted July 4, 2012 Wrong. I'm 41 and I"m not being pretentious. I'm still attractive for my age and have never had plastic surgery. I just take care of my skin and complexion and watch what I eat. I have some small patches of grey hair that I don't plan to color because I think that's a beautiful marker of aging. So chillax. I'm sharing my opinion. I think it's disgusting to alter your appearance for vanity's sake. If you like plastic surgery and plan to get it for yourself, go for it. We can agree to disagree. Noo, I was right then, because I gave you two choices, and obviously you are of the latter. I don't think we can all blame plastic surgery on vanity; I had fat atrophy on my face at 23, which you can read on my Long Distance Relationship forum thread. I used to believe everything you say and planned on aging gracefully as I took very good care of my skin. And due to my ignorance of the cosmetic surgery world, I naively found myself in the hands of people I thought to be estheticians who did FACIALS (which I also never had had before) but instead caused damage to the fat that both protects my skin from UV penetration and allows people to age "gracefully". I imagine you were stunning when you were 23 as well, but can you imagine if all of a sudden, your face looks like that of concentration camp survivor, and people start treating you in a genuinely hostile manner? The reality of it hurts.
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