spinaroonie Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 Dude closes like a machine despite looking like a serial killer with creepy shades, beard and cap. Moreover, he's picking up LOCAL American university girls with extensive social circles - the most difficult girls to close from day game cold approach. So what's his appeal? Ladies?
Sanman Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 hes a mysogynist to. True, but I'm pretty sure that isn't why he gets women.
manup Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 How's he a misogynist? He picks up women and has sex with them because he's good looking, has money, lives in a busy city and works a successful direct game because of all his attributes, nothing misogynistic about it really. Nothing immoral there either, he's making no promises to any of these women, just wam bam thank you ma'm and on to the next woman.
Art_Critic Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 Paul Janka is a 33 year-old writer, actor, and entrepreneur, It's all a ruse to sell his books and make money off of guys that are desperate, he is all about building a business with customers.. His self proclaimed success with women.. yes those videos are not real... hello.. actor.. is nothing more than good self confidence and the ability to have a conversation. 1
yongyong Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 I think you got very excited by this simple videos. If you look up 'justin wayne', you will flip out. He meets a girl, goes an instant date with them and take them home. Maybe it's all fake......lol Justin Wayne Lay Report "Indirect Approach - Date - Take her home" - YouTube
Author spinaroonie Posted July 1, 2012 Author Posted July 1, 2012 To the guys here who claim he's good looking - the dude's got a beard, shades and wearing a baseball hat. He's skinny and dressed scruffy. The girls really have no idea what he looks like. Wouldn't this be a testament to the fact that looks matter little if your rap and non-verbals are tight.
Art_Critic Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 To the guys here who claim he's good looking - the dude's got a beard, shades and wearing a baseball hat. He's skinny and dressed scruffy. The girls really have no idea what he looks like. Wouldn't this be a testament to the fact that looks matter little if your rap and non-verbals are tight. You believe those vids.. seriously ? He is an actor and what you witnessed was a staged pu with an actress.. He is pushing his books to make money and those are what is known as advertising. 1
ThaWholigan Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 Paul Janka is good at what he does - but these are staged. A lot of those pick up vids are staged. There are a few genuine ones, but a majority are definitely staged. Also, like AC said, Janka is well known as an actor and entrepreneur, just like Eben Pagan is a well known marketing genius (Pagan also goes by the name "David De Angelo". Ring bells??) Even Derek Cajun, who I like a lot, is known as an actor. He at least fuses a lot of what he picked up from acting in his work, as does Vercetti.
Imajerk17 Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 I noticed that Paul Janka does a couple of things in two of the videos: (1) His tonality is confident. (2) He mentions something that most other guys don't mention (the cowboy boots in the 2nd video) (3) Whenever the girl says something, he has something to add. I have no doubt the guy gets amazing results and so who am I to argue, but still, I don't like how he got the number of the first girl. "Can I text you, for recommendations of places to go out?" I can sort of see his rational--make it "safe" for the girl to give out her number, but it still seems kind of weak to me. I'm thinking that he would have been better making the conversation more personal about her, and then asking her number due to her being so cool, and less about finding places.
manup Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 I noticed that Paul Janka does a couple of things in two of the videos: (1) His tonality is confident. (2) He mentions something that most other guys don't mention (the cowboy boots in the 2nd video) (3) Whenever the girl says something, he has something to add. I have no doubt the guy gets amazing results and so who am I to argue, but still, I don't like how he got the number of the first girl. "Can I text you, for recommendations of places to go out?" I can sort of see his rational--make it "safe" for the girl to give out her number, but it still seems kind of weak to me. I'm thinking that he would have been better making the conversation more personal about her, and then asking her number due to her being so cool, and less about finding places. He operates in big cities, meaning all of his interactions purposely last two minutes tops, that way he can build a list of numbers and find out which ones he wants to bang when he's horny. Also remember that he is in NYC where women are extra slutty due to the sheer amount of people and the anonymity that the city provides. It's easy for him to get 10 numbers a day, there is no need for him to complicate things.
Imajerk17 Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 He operates in big cities, meaning all of his interactions purposely last two minutes tops, that way he can build a list of numbers and find out which ones he wants to bang when he's horny. Also remember that he is in NYC where women are extra slutty due to the sheer amount of people and the anonymity that the city provides. It's easy for him to get 10 numbers a day, there is no need for him to complicate things. Perhaps. But I'm not sure if it is so much about the number of girls you meet as it is about making contact with the girl(s) you really really want to meet. Approaching women during the day is so much easier than approaching women in bars and clubs. I speak from experience.
Author spinaroonie Posted July 2, 2012 Author Posted July 2, 2012 One huge advantage he has is the lack of a "sing-songy" voice. His tone is carefully measured while avoiding being monotone. In the past I have had to fight the tendency of a "sing-songy" voice, one that reveals too much emotion. Too much gesticulation and too wide a vocal range. Women subconsciously perceive that as having a feminine feel to it. Janka has mastered vocal tone. It probably comes completely natural to him.
Sid6.7 Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 You believe those vids.. seriously ? He is an actor and what you witnessed was a staged pu with an actress.. He is pushing his books to make money and those are what is known as advertising. I don't fault the guy at all for being an entrepreneur. Do you have any evidence to prove otherwise? Actors or not, why the hell do people find this so hard to believe? As if it is some anomaly that doesn't exist or a fabrication. I have never heard of this guy, in fact I don't know why this is a big surprise to some. It's called starting a conversation with someone, whether it be male or female. How the hell is this ground breaking stuff?
Frogwife Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) One huge advantage he has is the lack of a "sing-songy" voice. His tone is carefully measured while avoiding being monotone. In the past I have had to fight the tendency of a "sing-songy" voice, one that reveals too much emotion. Too much gesticulation and too wide a vocal range. Women subconsciously perceive that as having a feminine feel to it. Janka has mastered vocal tone. It probably comes completely natural to him. Wow, I am not sure what is more strange, double-posting this on Loveshack *and* Sosuave or passing off other guy's comments as your own... unless you are also a 55-year-old guy named Atomsmasher ...bizarre! So what exactly is Paul Janka's appeal? Edited July 2, 2012 by Frogwife
Author spinaroonie Posted July 2, 2012 Author Posted July 2, 2012 Take my word for it since I’ve spent years doing the research (or do it yourself and waste time): you will gain nothing by talking longer and possibly you’ll torpedo the opportunity. Once you’ve gotten her number, move on. First of all, it’s likely that you’ll say something that works against you. The “stranger” light is blinking in her head and plenty can disqualify you. If you’ve got the number, you’ve already been qualified – what more do you want? As I’ve said, women travel this world looking for reasons to disqualify otherwise decent men. If she’s given you the digits, you’re done for the moment. Save that funny line you’re dying to use. The other reason to move on is that there are other girls around, and since it’s a numbers game, you need to get to work. On a good day, I may get seven numbers of women I think are quite attractive. I’ve found that I sleep with 11% of the women whose numbers I get (more on this later). That breaks down to two girls for every three days of numbers, more-or-less. But back to the categories in women’s heads. They’re like bins, these categories. And what I’ve found is that you can’t move from stranger to intimate or even friend/acquaintance by bull****ting on the street. You’re better off saving it. When you text her that night, you’re still the “guy from the street,” whether you spent 30 seconds saying “hi” or thirty minutes sharing about where you went to school and what you do for work. This has been corroborated by another player here in NYC. Accept your loss ratio and work on top-line. Trying to make an “impression” on each girl also is futile because you’re up against another tenet of the game: A difficult woman remains difficult. Basically, if the girl is fun and carefree, the forty-five seconds you spend are sufficient; she’ll respond and you’ll meet and shag. If she’s difficult – which is a general term for women who are skeptical, suspicious, haughty, bitchy, condescending and/or rude – no amount of chatting is going to overcome her normal disposition. You won’t **** her with a 30 second stop-and-chat, but you won’t **** her with the investment of an hour of top game. Let her go. That’s the beauty of the game. Next! - Paul Janka, Attraction Formula (p. 24) How much validity is there to this statement? I think Paul Janka is one of the few honest commercial players out there. Is this true?
Art_Critic Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 - Paul Janka, Attraction Formula (p. 24) You bought his book ?...
LittlePrince Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 I never heard of him. At first I thought he was Paul Anka, then related to Paul Anka, and finally a new Star Wars Jar Jar Binks type character.
Imajerk17 Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) Take my word for it since I’ve spent years doing the research (or do it yourself and waste time): you will gain nothing by talking longer and possibly you’ll torpedo the opportunity. Once you’ve gotten her number, move on. First of all, it’s likely that you’ll say something that works against you. The “stranger” light is blinking in her head and plenty can disqualify you. If you’ve got the number, you’ve already been qualified – what more do you want? As I’ve said, women travel this world looking for reasons to disqualify otherwise decent men. If she’s given you the digits, you’re done for the moment. Save that funny line you’re dying to use. The other reason to move on is that there are other girls around, and since it’s a numbers game, you need to get to work. On a good day, I may get seven numbers of women I think are quite attractive. I’ve found that I sleep with 11% of the women whose numbers I get (more on this later). That breaks down to two girls for every three days of numbers, more-or-less. But back to the categories in women’s heads. They’re like bins, these categories. And what I’ve found is that you can’t move from stranger to intimate or even friend/acquaintance by bull****ting on the street. You’re better off saving it. When you text her that night, you’re still the “guy from the street,” whether you spent 30 seconds saying “hi” or thirty minutes sharing about where you went to school and what you do for work. This has been corroborated by another player here in NYC. Accept your loss ratio and work on top-line. Trying to make an “impression” on each girl also is futile because you’re up against another tenet of the game: A difficult woman remains difficult. Basically, if the girl is fun and carefree, the forty-five seconds you spend are sufficient; she’ll respond and you’ll meet and shag. If she’s difficult – which is a general term for women who are skeptical, suspicious, haughty, bitchy, condescending and/or rude – no amount of chatting is going to overcome her normal disposition. You won’t **** her with a 30 second stop-and-chat, but you won’t **** her with the investment of an hour of top game. Let her go. That’s the beauty of the game. Next! - Paul Janka, Attraction Formula (p. 24) How much validity is there to this statement? I think Paul Janka is one of the few honest commercial players out there. Is this true? I can see what he is getting at, but I'm not positive that it's true as he said it. You definitely don't want to overstay your welcome but the conversation has to have some meat to it. Dashing away too soon can look sketchy. In support of what PJ said, I'd feel confident about seeing her again if she and I had really short conversation with her and exchange a few texts with her later that day. As for his research methods, Paul Janka lives in a city (New York City) with how many million transient people? That definitely affects things. If you move to NYC, then you probably have a different attitude about taking chances in life from the attitude of many people who live in a smaller town. Everyone has their own "method" if you will. Some guys will say that you ought to get her to meet you for coffee right there if you can--get the first date out of the way. I personally would say 5 minutes is a good amount of time to talk with a woman when you meet her. You have to find out some things about each other, but you're really exchanging energy. Moreover, the more she tells you about herself, the more she will feel invested on meeting up again. Edited July 2, 2012 by Imajerk17
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Wow, I am not sure what is more strange, double-posting this on Loveshack *and* Sosuave or passing off other guy's comments as your own... unless you are also a 55-year-old guy named Atomsmasher ...bizarre! So what exactly is Paul Janka's appeal? Our little spinaroonie does this all the time. I am afraid he has way too much time on his hands to cogitate about pick up artists. 1
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 commercial players ??? REALLY? This is an actual thing?
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 You bought his book ?... Probably. So did the guy that the OP has plagiarized for this thread.
Imajerk17 Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) Our little spinaroonie does this all the time. I am afraid he has way too much time on his hands to cogitate about pick up artists. What's wrong with guys learning to meet women? Spinaroonie is actually putting himself out there, unlike 95% of the people on here. He deserves our props IMO. If the Lovable Losers only had 10% of this attitude, this place wouldn't have nearly the amount of self-pitying whiny threads on here that get 400 posts. Edited July 2, 2012 by Imajerk17
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