ThaWholigan Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Simple question. Can they be improved to boost your dating potential? I believe they can, but obviously not everyone will agree . I'm talking fitness, body, movement, body language, expression, grooming (including face), fashion/style etc.....
USMCHokie Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Without a doubt, but only to a certain extent. We all have our ceilings... 1
SmileFace Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Who doesn't agree with this? Improvement = more attractive 1
Cracker Jack Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Definitely. I don't even care about limits. You just have to always feel like you can continously get better with the right amount of emphasis on said improvement. And luckily there's a variety of ways to go about improving yourself, so there could conceivably be no end in sight if you don't believe there is. 1
Author ThaWholigan Posted June 30, 2012 Author Posted June 30, 2012 I think that people's ceilings are a lot higher than they think personally. I have vastly improved on a few things. My body language and posture is better, I use my eyes more. My presence is now far superior to how I was before. I need now to improve my style, my grooming could be a bit more refined, need to reach my fitness goal and my special area that I'm focusing on is movement. I never realized how important movement is until the last few months. The way a person moves can tell a story about that person IMO.
USMCHokie Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Definitely. I don't even care about limits. You just have to always feel like you can continously get better with the right amount of emphasis on said improvement. And luckily there's a variety of ways to go about improving yourself, so there could conceivably be no end in sight if you don't believe there is. So you are suggesting facial reconstruction...? How would you get taller...? This is what I mean by ceiling...
Cracker Jack Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Actually, I wasn't considering things like that. I was mainly focusing on things mentioned by Wholigan, like body language, social skills and things you basically have control of. My height and face, well, aren't things (outside of major surgery) within my control, so I honestly wasn't thinking about them. Maybe some people will believe that's where their limits come into play, but that just means I see improvement in a different light than them. Besides, I love my face and height...
USMCHokie Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Actually, I wasn't considering things like that. I was mainly focusing on things mentioned by Wholigan, like body language, social skills and things you basically have control of. My height and face, well, aren't things (outside of major surgery) within my control, so I honestly wasn't thinking about them. Maybe some people will believe that's where their limits come into play, but that just means I see improvement in a different light than them. Besides, I love my face and height... No problem. If you have a good face and height, then your ceiling is higher. It's all part of the package.
SmileFace Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 I think everyone can improve. I don't mean let's call up the doc and get Barbie out but make yourself more attractive to what you find attractive. However nothing is wrong with breaking out the chisel and getting Barbie-Ed up. 1
Cracker Jack Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 I agree. I'm less than average height (5'8"), so my height isn't anything special. I just don't want to look at it and believe I can't push myself to get way better than I currently am. Realistically, I understand that being tall and good looking is on a whole different level that I'll most likely never reach (so I see what you mean), but luckily there are many other things within our control, so I feel like I can continue to improve upon my own reality.
verhrzn Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Some people can do more to improve, some people have done everything they can. In the end, sometimes you're just stuck with the bad hand fate deals you.
ptp Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 It is hard to improve on perfect. Yea there are something that you can't change. I have really board shoulders and a big chest. A lot of women prefer the lean/skinny look. I can't do anything about my bones so I would say no you can't improve that much.
SmileFace Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 It is hard to improve on perfect. Yea there are something that you can't change. I have really board shoulders and a big chest. Some women prefer the lean/skinny look. I can't do anything about my bones so I would say no you can't improve that much. Fixed it for you
TheFinalWord Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Simple question. Can they be improved to boost your dating potential? I believe they can, but obviously not everyone will agree . I'm talking fitness, body, movement, body language, expression, grooming (including face), fashion/style etc..... Definitely! There is a good channel on YouTube: Alpha Male consulting. The host gives regular videos on hair, workouts, jewelry, clothes, latest trends, etc. There's a lot you can do!
USMCHokie Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Definitely! There is a good channel on YouTube: Alpha Male consulting. The host gives regular videos on hair, workouts, jewelry, clothes, latest trends, etc. There's a lot you can do! Very cool actually. Thanks for the suggestion. Quite entertaining and informative. 1
kiss_andmakeup Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Of course! I think women have more easily-accessible channels for improving their appearance than men do (hair coloring/styling, make-up, more fashion choices, and even things like shapewear and push-up bras). Not that men can't color their hair or utilize cosmetics, but of course it's much less common than women doing so. But both genders can hit the gym, dress their body to its best advantage, take good care of their skin, keep face/body hair well-groomed, and get a flattering haircut. These things alone can work wonders. 1
verhrzn Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Of course! I think women have more easily-accessible channels for improving their appearance than men do (hair coloring/styling, make-up, more fashion choices, and even things like shapewear and push-up bras). Not that men can't color their hair or utilize cosmetics, but of course it's much less common than women doing so. But both genders can hit the gym, dress their body to its best advantage, take good care of their skin, and get a flattering haircut. These things alone can work wonders. It still depends on what nature gives you to work with. Yes, you can tone your body, but your body still HAS a natural shape. No amount of crunches is gonna get rid of your last rib, or the width of your hips. And even enhancements like make-up can go so far. I have been to dozens of stylists, and they can never do a thing with my hair. There is no flattering haircut for my face shape and type of hair, and those are things that cannot be changed. Yes, improvements CAN be made, but some people hit that ceiling without ever looking like they've improved much. Put lipstick on a pit bull, and he's still a pit bull.
jobaba Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Depends where you are at. I definitely think some overweight people could make marked improvement. I already dress well am in good sshape (last gf said body was sexy) and spend 30 dollars on. Haircuts. So the only thing left to do is add mass and cut it up which im in the process of doing. Doubt it will help much though. On the other hand, things out of my control, like if i were 4 inches taller would make me exponentially more attractive.
kiss_andmakeup Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 It still depends on what nature gives you to work with. Yes, you can tone your body, but your body still HAS a natural shape. No amount of crunches is gonna get rid of your last rib, or the width of your hips. And even enhancements like make-up can go so far. I have been to dozens of stylists, and they can never do a thing with my hair. There is no flattering haircut for my face shape and type of hair, and those are things that cannot be changed. Yes, improvements CAN be made, but some people hit that ceiling without ever looking like they've improved much. Put lipstick on a pit bull, and he's still a pit bull. Oh...kay... I never claimed that, for example, someone who is a "6" (whatever that means to you) can go to a "9" with the help of cosmetics and styling. I was simply stating that virtually everyone looks better with flattering hair, makeup, and styling, than without.
USMCHokie Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Depends where you are at. Law of diminishing returns certainly applies... I already dress well am in good sshape (last gf said body was sexy)... Isn't that the coolest...? Doubt it will help much though. On the other hand, things out of my control, like if i were 4 inches taller would make me exponentially more attractive. Yep...that damn ceiling...
verhrzn Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Oh...kay... I never claimed that, for example, someone who is a "6" (whatever that means to you) can go to a "9" with the help of cosmetics and styling. I was simply stating that virtually everyone looks better with flattering hair, makeup, and styling, than without. Well, I guess I was arguing that sometimes it actually doesn't make a difference, because there IS no flattering haircut. Either way, if after all that work you go from a 6 to a 6.5... is that really enough to even be considered an "improvement"?
kiss_andmakeup Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Well, I guess I was arguing that sometimes it actually doesn't make a difference, because there IS no flattering haircut. Either way, if after all that work you go from a 6 to a 6.5... is that really enough to even be considered an "improvement"? As a hairdresser and makeup artist, trust me, there is a flattering style. For everyone. Always. Flattering is a relative term. Let's say there is someone who is below-average looking with scraggly, unkempt hair, bushy eyebrows, and a dull and sallow complexion. A good hairstylist will analyze her face shape and give her a cut that complements her positive features and minimizes the negative. A brow shaping and proper make-up application will help accentuate her beautiful blue eyes, or her lovely cheekbones, or her nice smile. At the end of the day, will she still be considered generally below-average by her peers? Maybe. But she will probably have a lot more options in her life; professionally, romantically, and otherwise. Simply because she will look like she cares, and she's put together. It sends a message that she cares about herself, loves herself, and has her sh*t together. Not to pick on you verhrzn, because I think you truly have a good heart and have put up with way more crap than you deserve. But there's no way I'm going to argue the finite points of image improvement with someone whose self-image appears to be irreversibly (and unjustly) in the toilet. I know from lurking that there's no arguing with you on these things, so we'll just agree to disagree. 2
Damia Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 For me ,I lost a lot of weight on the infidelity/divorce diet To help with my healing I made the effort to dress well ,this in turn encouraged me to reinvent my "style" The domino effect is that I feel I look good so I come across as more confident than I am The positive comments I receive show me I must be doing something right! So yes I think looking for even small ways to "improve" oneself can have a flow on positive effect ,even if it is just in the way we perceive ourselves
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