Good article on why women dont favor short men

[HopelessRomantic76]

I always dated shorter guys,taller then me but short by other mens standards but lately dated a taller guy and never had the feeling with the short guys that i had with him and now i think i want to stick with taller men,i felt a little shallow about it but this girl articulated what im feeling perfectly

 

Don’t Want No Short… | TattleTales | Jewish Journal

 

Ok so during Thanksgiving cocktail hour this year, my family took some time to run through the list of family friends we have with young single men and interrogate me about why I refuse to date them. I tried to explain why there was no future with a door-to-door insurance salesman who lives with his parents in the Valley and is shorter than me, but what caught everyone off guard was my mentioning the height factor. My dad literally called me superficial and was shocked that I could list something so trivial as a negative.

 

I suppose I’m tall for a girl but it doesn’t really feel like it. I’m 5’8” which apparently is three inches taller than the average woman in America. Actually I wish I was taller, but if I’m wearing my four inch heels (which I love), I do notice that a number of men suddenly seem less dateable. Despite my feminist instincts, I am more attracted to someone who is taller than me. I think on some primordial level, as a woman, I want to know that if there’s a fire or an earthquake, the guy I’m with can lift me up, throw me over one shoulder and run out the door.

 

I guess if he was an inch or two shorter but I still got the sense that he was strong enough to sling me over his shoulder in one fell swoop, I’m probably less likely to notice the height thing. And I would never say that it’s a deal breaker because as I tried to assure my father, I am completely willing to give up any pair of shoes for love. But I can’t shake this feeling that I want a man to not just be taller but actually be physically stronger than me. I know I’m supposed to want everyone to be equal and in most things in life I really do. But there is some primitive desire inside of me to be with a man who is physically stronger than me – not just equally as strong. I hate the idea of having to bend down to whisper in his ear, or be the one to reach things on the top shelf or have my arm be the one on top of his when we’re walking down the street. Should I really be shunned by the feminist community if I admit that I don’t believe in physical equality for men and women? Men are generally physically stronger than women and I like it that way. I believe women should have every opportunity a man does in life’s pursuits, but I also believe that I have a right to admit that I want him to be more physically powerful than me.

 

I know there are plenty of men who may be a few inches shorter than me and still plenty stronger and therefore I’m not willing to completely disqualify everyone shorter. But size does affect strength and it’s just in my DNA to associate one with the other. The fact is, if an earthquake comes and he thinks he’s hopping into my arms, I’m telling you right here and now, I’m making a run for the door. Alone.

[FitChick]

Fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy ride...

[Pierre]

Fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy ride...

 

Even though many women in the forum do not plan to have kids they are still driven by evolution.

 

Taller men are associated with better genes and success even if there is no desire to procreate.

[AD1980]

I love the "shoe" reason the best picking an acessory over a potential great partner

 

The vanity of women is mind boggling

[USMCHokie]

As with any dating requirements, if you can still find guys to date, then good on you and more power to you for your height preference. But if you complain that there are no men out there for you, then you'll get no sympathy from me, and I hope you die alone.

 

That being said, best of luck to you!

[verhrzn]

Meh, I'd happily date a short guy. Hottest guy I've ever known was like 5'4" or close to it (I was taller than him in heels.)

 

That said, I don't like being "bigger" than a guy. If he's short, then I want him a little... round. A short guy is fine, but a short skinny guy makes me feel fat. And being fat, or "bigger" makes it difficult for me to feel feminine.

 

So bring on the short guys, but add a few pounds to em.

[Cracker Jack]

The sad part is you're actually one of the short guys pretending to be a woman just to annoy people. It's too obvious.

[MrCastle]

I think the whole thing is very interesting. Being tall has nothing to do with being strong, or masculine, or being a protector. It just means you're tall. Doesn't mean you can fight, or protect your woman. Doesn't mean you're secretly a superhero. Just means your tall. I don't doubt there is some biological element to this deep rooted in the female brain that makes them think that.

[jobaba]

This was posted on another forum.

 

It is actually somewhat inspiring since the author's father called the daughter shallow for not wanting to date a man shorter than her.

 

How many many people would think that a woman is shallow for not wanting to date a man shorter than her no matter how wonderful he was?

 

I'd venture to guess not many.

 

In terms of women not liking short men, if 99 out of 100 don't, I'll find number 100. Might take a while though.

[Feelsgoodman]

I can see why a woman would want a guy who is taller than her. It makes her feel feminine standing next to him. However, the height disparity has to be within reasonable bounds. I find it hilarious when very short chicks want to date very tall guys. I'm 6'2 and sometimes get hit on by girls who are like 5' tall. I just laugh at this. I once told a girl straight up that she was too short for me and she got really offended.

[Bristolius]

At work there used to be a short man. He happened to be unusually handsome. It seemed that half the women were in love with him, and the other half only noticed him because he was that "little guy".

 

He was lucky because he was handsome, yes.

 

Then there was another guy who was 6' 8". He was not handsome but was very funny and nice. He did not have a girlfriend.

 

Yet another person from work, a woman, was a drinking buddy of mine. I'd known her for years before I realized she was tall. I blurted, out in the moment, "you're tall!" And she told me she was 5'11", the same height as me. Why didn't I notice? She had two boyfriends when I knew her and both were shorter.

 

Just more anecdotes for your analysis.

[Quiet Storm]

Being tall has nothing to do with being strong, or masculine, or being a protector. It just means you're tall. Doesn't mean you can fight, or protect your woman. Doesn't mean you're secretly a superhero. Just means your tall.

 

I think that even though there are shorter men that are stronger or more muscular than tall men, the ILLUSION of strength is a big factor. Most bouncers and bodyguards are tall, not just because they are better fighters, but because their presence is more intimidating. Although they may never have to fight, their imposing presence helps to keep bad guys in check.

 

Imagine Bruce Lee in a bar. Some guy accuses Bruce of flirting with his woman and shoves him. Because Bruce is short, other men are more likely to challenge him, IMO. No doubt Bruce Lee will kick dude's butt, but what would've happened if Bruce was tall?

 

Now, imagine a tall, well-built guy in a bar. Some guy sees him flirting with his woman, but isn't as confident because of tall man's physical presence. He keeps his feelings to himself, avoiding confrontation. Tall dude doesn't even have to fight- his presence just makes it less likely that other men are going to start trouble with him, IMO.

 

So it's not really a tall guy's ability to fight that's important, but the fact (or assumption) that other men are less likely to challenge him.

 

JMO

[MaxNoob]

 

Now, imagine a tall, well-built guy in a bar. Some guy sees him flirting with his woman, but isn't as confident because of tall man's physical presence. He keeps his feelings to himself, avoiding confrontation. Tall dude doesn't even have to fight- his presence just makes it less likely that other men are going to start trouble with him, IMO.

 

 

When I was 5 feet, I got mugged on several occasions. Once I got to 6 feet, all of that stopped. I even noticed that I could walk down a busy sidewalk in a straight line, and people would get out of my way; I couldn't do that when I was shorter.

[MrCastle]

I think that even though there are shorter men that are stronger or more muscular than tall men, the ILLUSION of strength is a big factor. Most bouncers and bodyguards are tall, not just because they are better fighters, but because their presence is more intimidating. Although they may never have to fight, their imposing presence helps to keep bad guys in check.

 

Imagine Bruce Lee in a bar. Some guy accuses Bruce of flirting with his woman and shoves him. Because Bruce is short, other men are more likely to challenge him, IMO. No doubt Bruce Lee will kick dude's butt, but what would've happened if Bruce was tall?

 

Now, imagine a tall, well-built guy in a bar. Some guy sees him flirting with his woman, but isn't as confident because of tall man's physical presence. He keeps his feelings to himself, avoiding confrontation. Tall dude doesn't even have to fight- his presence just makes it less likely that other men are going to start trouble with him, IMO.

 

So it's not really a tall guy's ability to fight that's important, but the fact (or assumption) that other men are less likely to challenge him.

 

JMO

 

Yeah it's a blowfish type of scenario. Appearance will scare some people away. But there are times where your true masculinity will be tested. Not necessarily in fighting, although it can be sometimes. But moments where a man has to prove he has stones, and height has nothing to do with it.

[ThaWholigan]

I think that even though there are shorter men that are stronger or more muscular than tall men, the ILLUSION of strength is a big factor. Most bouncers and bodyguards are tall, not just because they are better fighters, but because their presence is more intimidating. Although they may never have to fight, their imposing presence helps to keep bad guys in check.

 

Imagine Bruce Lee in a bar. Some guy accuses Bruce of flirting with his woman and shoves him. Because Bruce is short, other men are more likely to challenge him, IMO. No doubt Bruce Lee will kick dude's butt, but what would've happened if Bruce was tall?

 

Now, imagine a tall, well-built guy in a bar. Some guy sees him flirting with his woman, but isn't as confident because of tall man's physical presence. He keeps his feelings to himself, avoiding confrontation. Tall dude doesn't even have to fight- his presence just makes it less likely that other men are going to start trouble with him, IMO.

 

So it's not really a tall guy's ability to fight that's important, but the fact (or assumption) that other men are less likely to challenge him.

 

JMO

True. I've been to some of the toughest areas in London and NEVER been robbed in all the years, and I'm 6 foot 3. It also helps that I weigh more than 210lbs.

[Woggle]

I can see why a woman would want a guy who is taller than her. It makes her feel feminine standing next to him. However, the height disparity has to be within reasonable bounds. I find it hilarious when very short chicks want to date very tall guys. I'm 6'2 and sometimes get hit on by girls who are like 5' tall. I just laugh at this. I once told a girl straight up that she was too short for me and she got really offended.

 

This cracks me up. It is one thing to have standards but then don't get mad at other people for being shallow as well.

[udolipixie]

I don't see any reason for there to be any reasoning or justification for not wanting a short guy other than attraction. Nor do I see how feminism comes into play with not believing gals and guys are physically equal as feminism in my opinion hasn't generally been about guys and gals are biological and physiological equals.

 

It is amusing how oftens guys find gals not dating short guys is considered being superficial over a trivial thing when many guys wouldn't have even gotten to known how wonder a gal is as he wouldn't have approached her if she didn't have all or most of the superfcial possibly trivial things he wanted.

[AD1980]

I dont beleive its bioligical either its mostly society driven,young women have it drillled into their heads from birth about the tall dark and handsome prince charming

[udolipixie]

The woman thing with height isnt biological, because if it was, then men would care if a woman was shorter or taller (but they don't). It's just one of those preferences they get from pop culture, kind of like men who worship giant boobs.

Quite unsure how you're able to speak for all or most guys. I doubt that men care about a gal's height or have some preference whether it's the norm or not is a tossup. I've known many guys that do care about if a gal is shorter or taller and many guys that do have a height preference preferring gals shorter than them as they find her more feminine, more wanted, more protective, more masculine, etc.

[RedRobin]

Height has never been a requirement for me.

 

I'm 5'-6", so in a very happy range for most men

 

There may be some issues regarding sexual compatibility. I wouldn't care to have my face in the man's chest when we are in bed together... if you catch my drift. If his torso is alot longer than mine, it would feel wierd.

 

Also, there is the stereotype that taller men are 'proportionate' in other areas.

 

So all those shorter guys just have to work harder to prove to the ladies they are fun-size That is what I used to call my ex-H. He was only two inches taller than me.

[Feelsgoodman]

So all those shorter guys just have to work harder to prove to the ladies they are fun-size That is what I used to call my ex-H. He was only two inches taller than me.

"Fun size" is a relative concept. Remember that for every man with a short, skinny d*ck there's a woman with a loose, sloppy vagina. If you have a tight vagina, you can have fun even with a relatively small penis. And if you're "loose lipped", you may need a baseball bat to feel anything.

[udolipixie]

I can think of many female sex symbols that are used to sell stuff to men, and they all range from 5'2 to 5'11.

 

Meanwhile, male sex symbols, aside from has-beens like Tom Cruise, the modern crop of male sex symbols almost none of them are under 6 feet tall.

 

Men don't care about height, sure a minority do, but in general a man is not going to write off an attractive woman because she is 1-2 inches taller or shorter than his "ideal" height. Most men won't even write off an attractive woman who is a few inches taller than them. It's women who set the rules in this field, men don't bother hitting on taller women because there's a better chance of them dating Jerry Sandusky if he's taller, than there is they will date a guy who is 1 inch shorter than them in heels

 

Not writing an attractive gal off because she's taller or shorter than his ideal or preference seems more indicative of how strongly guys care about height rather than guys don't care about height. I know many guys that won't write a hottie off for being tall however she'll be a hottie who is taller than he likes/prefers and in my opinion that's still caring about height.

[udolipixie]

Time to put this semantics troll on ignore

 

Amusing how it's being a semantics troll to show the irrational and illogical points of your statements.

 

Seems irrational to speak for all or most guys.

 

Seems illogical to equate not writing a hottie off for not having an ideal factor as not caring about the factor.

 

I didn't expect rationality and logic as your premise was it's not a biological preference in gals since guys don't have a preference. It's clearly logical to think if gals have a biological preference then guys would have one as well otherwise gals it's not a biological preference.

[Quiet Storm]

Give me a break, you obviously don't know any shorties with a chip on their shoulder.

 

There are tough shorter guys and weak ones. The tough ones will fight your tall superhero no matter how "imposing" he looks, and a lot of times will even win.

 

It's women like you who encourage the kind of childish behavior at the bar where either wannabe tough guy tall guys start picking fights with weak short guys to impress women , or the reverse, short tough guys pick fight with weak tall 200 lb guys and bully them to impress women. In other words women are the cause of a lot of the misfortune and trouble among men, because you have these infantile, unfounded concepts of men.

 

I said in my post that it doesn't have to do with the actual fighting ability of men, but the illusion.

 

I never once said short guys can't fight. My best friend in HS (15 years ago) had a short boyfriend that got in a street fight and killed a guy (he didn't intend to kill, just harm). He went to jail for 8 years for manslaughter. I grew up in South Baltimore. There were many fights in our neighborhood, many including short guys. I didn't say short men are weak.

 

I'm not saying that short men don't have heart or fight in them. However, having been with a tall guy for 21 years, I see how many other men (not all) stay out of his way. I've

 

I don't go to bars, I'm a mom, so I don't know how I am encourging bad behavior. I'm just an observer, and that's been my experience.

[udolipixie]

My point was obviously that women will write a guy off for being 1-2 inches under their ideal height, while men won't, or atleast its more common for women to do.

 

I never said it was a biological preference. In some other cultures I've been to , women might somewhat prefer a tall guy, but they are more open to making exceptions for a guy they really like. In America this doesn't really happen.

 

In my neighborhood, which is composed of mostly Koreans. I see a lot of off the boat Korean girls with guys who are actually even shorter than them, but Americanized Asian women seem to be just as tall guy crazed as white american women for the most part (unless you're white, then Americanized Asian women will prefer a shorter white guy to a taller Asian guy ).

Obviously 'The woman thing with height isnt biological, because if it was,then men would care if a woman was shorter or taller (but they don't). ' is making the point that gals will write off a guy for not being an ideal height while guys won't wh stating. Rather than implying height isn't a biological preference for gals as guys don't one and speaking for all or most men as to whether they have a height preference.

 

If your point was gals write off guys for height more than guys do for gals that got lost in guys don't care about height because they don't write off hotties that aren't their ideal height.

 

Nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply you said it's a biological preference. I stated it seems irrational to think height isn't a biological preference for gals because guys don't have one as if preferences are tit for tat.

Edited June 29, 2012 by udolipixie