Princess71 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Do some guys really choose porn INSTEAD of dating a real person?? Can it really get to a point where you've watched porn for so long that you're not comfortable with a real woman?? Is this because with porn there are no complicated feelings to deal with and you still get your needs met? 1
Author Princess71 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Posted June 26, 2012 It's because they don't get out enough Yes, but maybe the reason they don't get out enough is because they are satisfied with their life with porn??
Titanwolf Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Do some guys really choose porn INSTEAD of dating a real person?? Can it really get to a point where you've watched porn for so long that you're not comfortable with a real woman?? Is this because with porn there are no complicated feelings to deal with and you still get your needs met? I choose to because the majority of women I've encountered annoy me. Playing mind games they expect me to fall for, saying one thing and then doing another and my favourite, lacking the ability to think for themselves. Porn is uncomplicated, you just click and go. When you're done (if you were a man, you'd understand this) you no longer desire women and won't do for a little while. It helps me to curb those annoying cravings for sex. Plus I don't have to worry about porn using sex as a weapon . To offend is not my intent btw I'm just being blunt. 2
fortyninethousand322 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Porn does nothing for me. I can't go to a ball game or out to dinner with porn. 2
firehawk_1 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 porn all the way, given the attitude and mentality of women these days. awful. absolutely awful.
Emilia Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Yes, but maybe the reason they don't get out enough is because they are satisfied with their life with porn?? It's the other way round
Emilia Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 porn all the way, given the attitude and mentality of women these days. awful. absolutely awful. Anyone who blames an entire gender for their misfortunes is not a great loss for the dating pool 2
counterman Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 It's not really a choice between dating women and porn; it's a choice between trying to date and porn. Porn is easily accessible and you don't have to put in any effort to get it. Dating, on the other hand, is not guaranteed. You won't automatically get a date. You have to put in effort, sometimes get rejected, deal with flakes, and so on. Some guys choose not to try because it takes too much effort, so they resort to porn instead. If it was a choice between having sex with a women you're attracted to or porn, I sure hope the guy would choose sex, but often that's not the choice guys are presented with. The availability of high-speed internet porn has meant that the games of many guys have suffered significantly. Most of my friends watch porn and most (in their 20s) haven't had a date, ever. It becomes almost a lifestyle. Some I've seen break out of it, get rejected once and they're back firmly fixed on porn. 1
Author Princess71 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Posted June 26, 2012 with so many entitled princesses its not a surprise. youre one of these princesses Lol my name here is princess, but I do not have an attitude with guys at all. Talk about judging a book by it's cover.
Author Princess71 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Posted June 26, 2012 But there are guys that would turn down dates because they are so comfortable with porn, aren't there?? They convince themselves they don't want a relationship and stick to what feels comfortable, right. Possibly their difficulty in meeting women started the porn thing going, but then it became the preferred route. Am I right?
oldshirt Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 It's not because they prefer porn or are more comfortable with porn or are even "choosing" porn over real male/female interaction. It's because all the porn has F'd up the internal wiring in their brains and left them incapable of normal healthy interactions with flesh and blood females. In other words porn has made them damaged goods and they are suffering from a dysfunction from it. Many even have actual ED when presented with a real-life opportunity to have sex. I don't necessarily believe everything in this website but there is some good info and interesting reading nonetheless. www.yourbrainonporn.com
AD1980 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Porn doesnt reject me women do..Id pick women over porn if i could get a women but since i cant porn is the next best option and so far it hasnt hurt and rejected me like women have.. So if i cant get a women i might as well fantasize about them
Titanwolf Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Possibly their difficulty in meeting women started the porn thing going, but then it became the preferred route. Am I right? I can only speak from personal experience, but no. It's basically exactly what I stated. Women (at least where I'm from) are not worth the time, effort or stress. I have turned down sex from women, only because they portrayed that characteristic that said "After I f*** you, your ass is mine". No thank you please.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 I had a wonderful conversation about porn the other day with this new guy I'm dating. He thinks it's as damaging to many men's sexuality as I do, and thinks that the easy availability of porn is having a numbing, zombifying effect on a lot of men. Steady porn use is basically the equivalent of a direct shot of heroin to the vein, and it often reduces or even obliterates a man's ability to enjoy a real woman - and drive to seek women out. I've noticed this trend, and some men I've dated have even admitted to me that their heavy use of porn is probably to blame for some of their issues in bed (like not being able to come with full stimulation, or taking a very long time). This guy says he looked at it for a while, like most guys, then realized it was having negative effects on him and stopped. I can't tell you how great it was to be with a guy who isn't numbing himself in this way. He's the most responsive, active, engaged lover I've been with in years.
Titanwolf Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 I had a wonderful conversation about porn the other day with this new guy I'm dating. He thinks it's as damaging to many men's sexuality as I do, and thinks that the easy availability of porn is having a numbing, zombifying effect on a lot of men. Steady porn use is basically the equivalent of a direct shot of heroin to the vein, and it often reduces or even obliterates a man's ability to enjoy a real woman - and drive to seek women out. I've noticed this trend, and some men I've dated have even admitted to me that their heavy use of porn is probably to blame for some of their issues in bed (like not being able to come with full stimulation, or taking a very long time). This guy says he looked at it for a while, like most guys, then realized it was having negative effects on him and stopped. I can't tell you how great it was to be with a guy who isn't numbing himself in this way. He's the most responsive, active, engaged lover I've been with in years. I don't doubt the truth in this. HOWEVER, I'll go out on a limb to stick up for my fellow man. What about men who are constantly being rejected, every time they muster up the confidence to go and talk to a woman? it's literally a lose-lose for them considering the fact that they're looked down upon if they hire an escort or if they watch porn. You would rather they go celibate and suffer through a lifetime of sexual frustration?
seachangeoflove Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 But there are guys that would turn down dates because they are so comfortable with porn, aren't there?? They convince themselves they don't want a relationship and stick to what feels comfortable, right. Possibly their difficulty in meeting women started the porn thing going, but then it became the preferred route. Am I right? that is why it KICKS ASS to b e a woman. Sex is awesome and you don't need a relationship to get it. so women can have sex without a relationship if they choose but men, most likely can't. poor things. I feel bad for them. But there are mail order brides. I guess they're expensive so the poor men have to make due with porn maybe one day the world will see the light and provide women to all men. Kinda like slavery, you know? What a concept!
Feelsgoodman Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 It's the other way round Are you speaking from personal experience?
Desinova Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Porn does nothing for me. I can't go to a ball game or out to dinner with porn. Is taking one's laptop to those places frowned upon?
Feelsgoodman Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Where is Disenchantedly Yours when you need her? I'm sure she has an opinion on this topic
Woggle Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Maybe women should ask themselves why many men these days prefer porn to a real life woman. Do you think women have any responsibility in this?
Ruby Slippers Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 You would rather they go celibate and suffer through a lifetime of sexual frustration? I understand why it's easier to indulge in the junk food of porn rather than do all the hard work of growing a garden and cooking a healthy meal that nourishes the body. And I have a lot of sympathy for anyone who struggles to find romantic companionship and love. I've had my own struggles, and I have some idea of how painful it can be. I also understand that trying to get some men to look away from porn is like trying to get a heroin addict to put down the needle. All I'm saying is that I think it would be great for those guys to have a little more respect for their minds, bodies, and lives, stop or cut down on the instant gratification and often damaging bad habits, and try for something healthier and more real. 1
Ruby Slippers Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Maybe women should ask themselves why many men these days prefer porn to a real life woman. Do you think women have any responsibility in this? I think people have been heavily brainwashed from all sides for decades, and are starting to go crazy and turn into robots. Have you looked around lately? So many people just look like they have no soul. I try to do little things to stimulate their humanity again - like smiling at them. But some of them just look lost, gone... absent. Men and women are going crazy. Are there things women can do to get more sane again? Of course. But this thread is about porn, a vice that primarily corrupts men (though this is changing fast), so that's what we're talking about.
Scottdmw Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 I don't doubt the truth in this. HOWEVER, I'll go out on a limb to stick up for my fellow man. What about men who are constantly being rejected, every time they muster up the confidence to go and talk to a woman? it's literally a lose-lose for them considering the fact that they're looked down upon if they hire an escort or if they watch porn. You would rather they go celibate and suffer through a lifetime of sexual frustration? These guys are essentially porn addicts with the problems that go with any addiction. But, the choice is not as simple as you present. Definitely there is no easy answer for porn users who can’t get real women. If they cut out the porn they may very well have a long hard road before they can find a real woman. Once a guy has been a porn addict for a long time, his skills with women atrophy or never develop at all. He is less motivated to do the difficult things that women find attractive. This doesn't mean though that it is impossible to change. I would venture to say that there are very few men who couldn't get a decent woman if they were willing to work at it hard enough. They might have to work quite hard for a long time though. This might involve a lot of failures with women, learning by trial and error, but also a lot of other things. Women do find it attractive to some degree when men have a lot of ambition, drive, ability, etc. If a man works really hard at anything that he is passionate about that can help. If a man is able to become a success in his area that helps. If he is a big success it helps even more. I'm not just talking money, but the kind of success that comes when you do something that really helps people and that people appreciate. Consider the amount of time that the average porn user might spend on porn. I have heard some guys talk about using it most days of the week, sometimes for hours at a time. This can add up to a lot of time in the average week. Let's say a guy went cold turkey on porn and instead used that time to develop himself. 10-15 hours a week over the course of a year or two is enough time to become fluent in a foreign language, learn a musical instrument to the point of being able to perform it publicly, get really ripped at the gym, work at a man's career to the point of getting a promotion, or find a different career entirely in a more lucrative or meaningful field. All of these things help with women, though nothing is a silver bullet. This kind of thing helps indirectly as well. Women can sense a man's level of self-respect. Respect is an interesting thing, either its existence or lack is not really a choice. If someone does something difficult and worthwhile, you can't help but respect that person. That includes yourself. Conversely, if a person wastes time on useless pursuits like porn, it is a natural human response to respect that person less, even if it's yourself. Men, it's your choice how you spend your time. Ask yourself though what you want your life to be about and remember that what your life is about is determined by the way you spend the hours of your week and what you direct your effort towards. Scott 2
PJKino Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Tell a women to be attracted to me and and not reject me and then well make a deal until then its all i have
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