Joaquin Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 I'm not saying that giving up would help. I'm saying the complete opposite. Quite right. Sorry. I was wan@ing away and not concentrating on what I was typing.
betterdeal Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 It actually doesn't for me, it has pretty much completely stopped me from feeling sexually frustrated. Then no need for a woman if you're sexually satisfied, right? If you want companionship, you don't have to have sex for that, so find women who are looking for friendship and be friendly with them. Who knows? Maybe over time you might evolve into having sex with a woman you get to know in such a way. Also, no need to talk about the merits of abstaining when you can just abstain and see how it works for you. And this is the point: just find things that work for you, and adjust them according to your needs. You could try not wanking for a while and see how that affects you. Maybe once a day, week, month, year, hour, every quarter hour is what works for you. It's your life: do what you want to do with it.
Author Ross MwcFan Posted June 23, 2012 Author Posted June 23, 2012 Then no need for a woman if you're sexually satisfied, right? If you want companionship, you don't have to have sex for that, so find women who are looking for friendship and be friendly with them. Who knows? Maybe over time you might evolve into having sex with a woman you get to know in such a way. Also, no need to talk about the merits of abstaining when you can just abstain and see how it works for you. And this is the point: just find things that work for you, and adjust them according to your needs. You could try not wanking for a while and see how that affects you. Maybe once a day, week, month, year, hour, every quarter hour is what works for you. It's your life: do what you want to do with it. I still crave experiencing physical affection with a woman. And I would still like to have sex and do sexual stuff with a woman, because not only would it be fun, and surely better than porn and masturbation, but I'd feel 'included', I'd feel 'normal', I'd feel 'desirable'.
betterdeal Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 So it's not stopped you feeling sexually frustrated, completely. Anyway, this may just a case of semantics. There are no 100% applicable to everyone cure alls. Just try different things. The worst that'll happen is you'll feel frustrated. You can always change your mind if it doesn't work for you. 1
Titanwolf Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 Testosterone drops dramatically, post-ejaculation and then rises for exactly 7 days (the 7th being the highest of course). Women are attracted (biologically) to higher testosterone males. Scientifically speaking, you'd be better of whacking the monkey, waiting 6 days and then go out "hunting" on the 7th day. I've done this experiment btw. 2 weeks cold turkey and there are a few changes, most notably the mental clarity and the increase of confidence (no doubt due to the testosterone-think pheromones) 1
gaius Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 I creamed all over my mothers couch while sleeping during a visit because I hadn't had sex or masturbated in a while. You need that controlled release once in a while just for hygienic reasons. You definitely have more energy if you save yourself. I don't think it will motivate you to get a girl though, that's something you either want or don't want. I don't even consider the two on the same level really. A real girl is just such a different thing than masturbation.
NXS Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 I notice a big difference when I don't do it for a while, like some of the other posters said - more confident and motivated. I also notice a lot more attention from women like there's a difference in my vibe or something. However going without for too long can have the opposite effect, sometimes it can cause that bug-eye look which smacks of desperation. So for me it's about trying to find that balance. 1
SJC2008 Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 That's not the downfall. The downfall is that if you masturbate frequently and are used to the sensation and amount of pressure required for an orgasm, a woman's vagina won't be as tight in comparison ... depending on the woman. A woman's privates cannot adjust as intimately as your hands (or whatever you use) can. I've had this conversation with a few of my friends. Sex isn't as good because they got so good at masturbating it pales a bit in comparison. When I lost my virginity at 22 I kept falling out. It was horrible and I hope the girl was super loose and that a normal vagina isn't that loose. Don't know if my expectation if tightness was because I was a V or because I masturbated a lot.
utterer of lies Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 The downfall is that if you masturbate frequently and are used to the sensation and amount of pressure required for an orgasm, a woman's vagina won't be as tight in comparison ... depending on the woman. A woman's privates cannot adjust as intimately as your hands (or whatever you use) can. I've had this conversation with a few of my friends. Sex isn't as good because they got so good at masturbating it pales a bit in comparison. Haha. That's why you need to train your gf to give good blow jobs.
Author Ross MwcFan Posted June 24, 2012 Author Posted June 24, 2012 So it's not stopped you feeling sexually frustrated, completely. Anyway, this may just a case of semantics. There are no 100% applicable to everyone cure alls. Just try different things. The worst that'll happen is you'll feel frustrated. You can always change your mind if it doesn't work for you. Maybe not completely, but almost 100% anyway.
counterman Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 I've tried this and it's so intense. It works for me anyway, because it basically forces me to approach more girls and I feel more excited and motivated. But if I haven't had much success, I would eventually need a release... I would say that, IMO, the easy accessibility of porn has stopped a lot of guys from being successful with women. It's the case with a lot of my friends, most of them haven't had a date yet and that doesn't look like changing. 'Why would I need to go into all that effort to meet girls and date when I can easily have the girl of my choice with a click of a mouse?' And other posters have made very valid points, comparing masturbation to sex.
Author Ross MwcFan Posted June 24, 2012 Author Posted June 24, 2012 Also there's the fact that a lot of people say that you need to stop caring about wanting a woman and to just enjoy life, and then it's more likely to happen. Giving up porn and masturbation would just cause the opposite.
ohmygoshistalk Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Interesting concept Ross, my male friend told me he will stop masturbating due to these things: a)cumming will relieve him for a while but it will drain him of testosterone, which will make him not pursue women enough ..he says he will just feel nothing when women are around , wont pursue them enough, if his spermies (testosterone) are low b)he feels sad after cumming (post coital tristesse) ive seen some articles online about this.. by the way i dont think this is true because if women touch themselves they'd still feel sexy or something and not necessarily drained of estrogen..but of course our bodies are different. the only thing bad about porn in my POV is that it will make men think of unrealistic expectations in bed or in women (bodies, way of thinking/feeling). porn might make men think women always have to look good or have nice bodies, or that women will always act like porn stars in bed..porn might make men think women are always submissive (most are not), especially if the man is inexperienced/virgin. Edited June 24, 2012 by ohmygoshistalk
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