Trans-sexuals? can straight men be attracted to them too? and some afterthoughts about on-line stuff

[Angel]

I am in shock here after having a conversation with the man I've been having a kinda "on-line" affair with. He called me this morning and we talked for over an hour, played harmless erotic fantasies over the phone.

 

At one point in the converstation I brought up the fact that if a woman has a lesbian encounter it doesn't necessarily mean she is gay (I had one once)as I described my experience. Then I wondered why it is usually permissive to show two women together in a heterosexual porn movie, but NEVER two men. Two men would automatically be classified as homosexual.

 

He then confessed to me that he had tried it with a trans-sexual. I was shocked because I only thought pre-dominantly gay men did this. He told me that he somtimes used to go with trans-sexual prostitutes (always with protection) during his frequent travels, and that they were very feminine. I just couldn't quite digest the penis aspect of it..So I asked him if he was really straight, and he replied,"of course. I love women." He had only revealed this aspect of himself to a few close friends and was a bit surprized that I was shocked.

 

Just before we ended the conversation I tested his boundaries by asking him to send me a ticket to come and fly over to see him, and he told me he had no more air miles, but I insisted,"You don't really want me then, do you! You're just playing with me" and he told me that of course he wanted me, so then I said, "Okay well, send me the money for a ticket. You're rich." He laughed and told me that I could ask all I wanted, but he wouldn't send me a ticket. I also laughed at my exaggerated boldness, and we hung up saying, "catch you in the next email."

 

Even though I was half joking when I asked him to send me a ticket, I realize that my intense feelings of the past few days were just a fantasy. Now I am no longer going to invest too much energy in writing this guy emails, plus with the weird trans-sexual confession...I dunno! This is

 

a bit hard to stomach. Is it normal for a straight man to like trans-sexuals?

[Tony T]

Hey, I am just as confused about this stuff as you are. Everytime I think I have it all figured out, I see something on Jerry Springer, Montel, Povich, Jones, Lake, or whatever...no matter how much I think I've seen there is always some new twist. And there are always people that will go for whatever, even men that would go for your cat.

 

Now, I am assuming here you are talking about a trans-sexual, someone who has had an operation that makes boobs and makes a vagina where the penis used to be. If the most beautiful "female" in the world told me she used to be a male, I would be repulsed. However, this is my own personal prejudice and I acknowledge that. But I can imagine that surgeons have performed wonders and I'm sure there are men who would absolutely go for a medical miracle male turned female. The thought makes me ill, though.

 

There are transvestites, men who fix themselves up to look like women, dress like women, and keep their penis for convenience. These repulse me to. I wouldn't go near one but until a guy finds out the truth, I've seen some on TV that were pretty alluring. A lot of them make big money doing this.

 

I make no judgements about these creatures and I think men have a right to not only have surgery and/or dress to fool. But I am discriminating and I limit my involvement to females who came out of the womb as females and dress as such. By the same token, I think women have a right to breast enhancement surgery. And, while I think it's rather risky surgery, a lot of us could probably use liposuction.

 

I make no judgements about women who go through various procedures to enhance their femininity. More often than not, the results tend to greatly enhance the person's self esteem. I would suppose that some men would go for penis lengthening surgery if it were available and, likewise, their self esteem would probably improve.

 

Wouldn't it be just great if we could accept everyone just as they are and, even more important, if everyone could accept themselves as they are? Mr. Rogers does. There would be a lot more operating rooms free for more significant functions...like saving people's lives.

 

I think your reaction to your online friend was very appropriate. While I would not judge someone for whatever they did, I would choose to distance myself from someone whose behavior I considered a bit off the wall. (I guess that's a judgement too, huh?)

 

If this guy had an encounter with a transsexual and he knew it, he is way too weird for someone who is pretty average and straight. (I guess what is average and straight is a judgement, too.) Go with your feelings. If you feel what he did was icky and if you feel he's a bit weird, just back off. There are too many guys who will show you normal sexual behavior.

 

The guy wouldn't send you a ticket because he: 1) Didn't have the money. 2) Is very ugly. 3) Likes to wear dresses 4) Is really a girl 5) Had lied to you in other ways 6) Has a girlfriend or boyfriend or more than one of each or maybe both 7) Is having on-line affairs with many people 8) Is scheduled for a sex change operation this week 9) All of the above.

 

This bud's NOT for you!!!

[Angel]

Actually he told me that the trans-sexuals he had encounterd were really male with boobs and all that, but also with a penis! This is why I was wondering how this could be a turn-on if he likes women so much.

 

My suspicion as to why he didn't want to send me a ticket is possibly because he is not very handsome. He still hasn't sent me a photo yet- says that when his computer gets repaired he will send it, but I think he could have found other ways to send one by now, don't you?

 

If he turns out to be really disgusting looking I will shoot myself!

[Tony T]

Why in heaven's name are you planning on continuing to engage this man. Hasn't he shown you enough of his butt? You always have to go with your gut...but in this case the evidence is pretty convincing. He is able to send you Email but his computer is not sufficiently repaired to send a photo??? Give me a break!!! You have probably asked him to send you a photo by snail mail and he has failed to do it. He does not want you to visit him, etc., etc., etc.

 

Take the hint. This guy is a loser in oh so many ways. A guy worth your time will not have encounters with men who have boobs, wear dresses and have penises unless he is truly strange, ill, perverted, etc.

 

Now if you are one of these women who thinks you can change this guy in an image you would like, best of luck to you. See you at the Social Security office.

 

You have not said much about yourself. If you are as weird as your online buddy, maybe you will be a perfect match. Short of that, TERMINATE with him ASAP!!!

[Angel]

Why in heaven's name are you planning on continuing to engage this man. Hasn't he shown you enough of his butt?

I was only reiterating what things he already told me to try and figure out why he hadn't sent the photo. Doesn't mean I was planning on continuing to engage him. Just wanted to see if you agreed with me on my reasoning being that he wasn't good looking. Why would a handsome, confident straight man need to go after trans-sexuals? Because he must be some sort of freak himself as well. Right?

[Tony T]

Learn this now and avoid the rush. One's personal attractiveness or appearance has little to do with their personality, behavior or choices in life, including sexual partners. The most beautiful person in the world can be the most insane, the most criminal, the most sociopathic...or the nicest and most sane.

 

And just how do you know this handsome man is "straight?" He may be straight selectively, but he is also insane, or freak as you say.

 

Looks have little or nothing to do with most parts of the mental condition. Although people tend to ascribe a higher level of intelligence to more attractive people, I know some really dumb beautiful people.

 

I once knew the owner of a very large restaurant and ate there often because my friend gave me fifty percent off. I would take my female friends to dinner and they would instantly fall in love with many of the drop-dead gorgeous waiters. My lady (platonic) friends knew the owner was a friend and they would ask me to check out details on particular waiters, see if they were seeing anyone and possibly arrange introductions.

 

Probably 70 percent or more of the time, I ultimately found that the men my friends were attracted to were homosexual and not at all interested in meeting them.

 

Looks can deceive. Learn this as soon as possible.