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Care to tell us all the things you do for women in your life?

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I'm surprised that a fellow male would fail to correctly review what I had written about women in my age bracket. And yet you come at me as if you know any better. :rolleyes:

I noticed that most of the female responses in this thread have sarcastic comments and utterly unhelpful. I also noticed I wasn't surprised when I noticed this.

 

Shaun-Dro, I feel yer pain. Women will gossip about their relationships with any passing acquaintance. Your penis size, eating habits, favorite music, sex habits, all this and more a woman will blab this to any chick, even her third cousin twice removed she only talks to once a year. Women love to blab. It's what they're programmed to do. Interestingly enough, women hate it when men do that kinda stuff. Example: an ex-gf used to talk about my penis size with her friends. When I talked about her tits and that birthmark above her cameltoe with me friends and she found out, she flipped out. When I told her, "Hey, you talk about my balls with your friends. What's wrong with me talking about your cunt with my friends?" she couldn't deal with it.

 

One thing I learned, women do not like it at all whenever men do their habits. A chick who liked me recently asked why I had so many female friends. I said I had female friends because males are catty. She didn't like it at all.

 

Back to the specific topic at hand: women gossiping with their friends. You can find out what type of chick you're dating by her friends. One positive thing about dating mature women is they don't gossip with their friends as much. Why? Because their friends don't have enough time to gossip. Most older women have friends, work, and other things that take up their time. So they don't have the time to evaluate every bf their friend likes as they did when they were younger.

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I noticed that most of the female responses in this thread have sarcastic comments and utterly unhelpful. I also noticed I wasn't surprised when I noticed this.

 

Shaun-Dro, I feel yer pain. Women will gossip about their relationships with any passing acquaintance. Your penis size, eating habits, favorite music, sex habits, all this and more a woman will blab this to any chick, even her third cousin twice removed she only talks to once a year. Women love to blab. It's what they're programmed to do. Interestingly enough, women hate it when men do that kinda stuff. Example: an ex-gf used to talk about my penis size with her friends. When I talked about her tits and that birthmark above her cameltoe with me friends and she found out, she flipped out. When I told her, "Hey, you talk about my balls with your friends. What's wrong with me talking about your cunt with my friends?" she couldn't deal with it.

 

One thing I learned, women do not like it at all whenever men do their habits. A chick who liked me recently asked why I had so many female friends. I said I had female friends because males are catty. She didn't like it at all.

 

Back to the specific topic at hand: women gossiping with their friends. You can find out what type of chick you're dating by her friends. One positive thing about dating mature women is they don't gossip with their friends as much. Why? Because their friends don't have enough time to gossip. Most older women have friends, work, and other things that take up their time. So they don't have the time to evaluate every bf their friend likes as they did when they were younger.

 

I'm glad to meet someone that understands what I'm talking about. How I make perfect sense in what women do and will continue to do. Of course I didn't expect any support from the opposite sex, but to get rude remarks from my fellow mates is utterly ridiculous. I expected better than that.

 

What my soon-to-be ex-girlfriend did was classless and silly. Older women, from my experience, are no different unless they're too busy to bother and that's a rare case these days. Other than that, it's in her nature to do the stuff she does. A hard proven fact!

 

When friends of mine asked me about my girlfriend, I told them she's fine, and she's down-to-earth, and up for anything fun, which I admired about her. I never asked them what they thought of her or if we should date. I already made up my mind about that from the get and stuck to it. It's too bad there aren't many women who think that way. :mad:

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I'm glad to meet someone that understands what I'm talking about. How I make perfect sense in what women do and will continue to do. Of course I didn't expect any support from the opposite sex, but to get rude remarks from my fellow mates is utterly ridiculous. I expected better than that.

 

What my soon-to-be ex-girlfriend did was classless and silly. Older women, from my experience, are no different unless they're too busy to bother and that's a rare case these days. Other than that, it's in her nature to do the stuff she does. A hard proven fact!

 

When friends of mine asked me about my girlfriend, I told them she's fine, and she's down-to-earth, and up for anything fun, which I admired about her. I never asked them what they thought of her or if we should date. I already made up my mind about that from the get and stuck to it. It's too bad there aren't many women who think that way. :mad:

 

As someone who has had to say soo many "I told you so" to her friends, I think in most cases, it's probably a great thing to listen to your friends. Sometimes we are just blinded by things and need someone to help us open our eyes!

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As someone who has had to say soo many "I told you so" to her friends, I think in most cases, it's probably a great thing to listen to your friends. Sometimes we are just blinded by things and need someone to help us open our eyes!

 

blinded by what exactly?? the op said that the girls never met him so its not possible for them to form the right opinion of him or anyone else, agree? I had people tell me when I used to work different jobs to not work with him or her without ever knowing the person but only telling me what the other people had told them. its all nuts to me and doesn't serve purpose.

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If somebody has a negative opinion about their friend or loved one dating a man who probably displays red flags a-plenty, of course they are going to say something.

 

Two weeks ago you were just using her for fun sex. A few days ago you refused to accept her desire to scale back on your relationship (though I am not sure what that would look like since you were just casual sex partners to begin with), and you spoke of her as if you owned her.

 

You are a misogynist and very conceited.

 

I'm sure she had some concerns to talk about with her friends.

 

isn't that what friends are for?

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I don't think friends need to have met the person you're seeing in order to dispense advice about your situation. There are some things friends can just tell are stupid situations just from what you have told them. I'll agree that they can't just know his/her name and age and make a reliable judgment. But filled in with some details, they can tell you things are stupid or not, and they're probably right.

 

I wish my friends weren't right about things sometimes, but they so often are. They're all pretty experienced. Almost invariably, when I tell them about something, they've been through the same thing or something like it.

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My ex-boyfriend often told his friends what to do about girls in their lives. He had no problem with turning the friends against certain girls. I even questioned him about it a time or two, and he said, "No, I think it's your duty if you care about your friend and you notice the woman is no good." He wrote me an email when we first started dating that was titled "machinations" (scheming); it was all about how he was turning his guy friend away from this one girl.

 

"Machinations" is just a random, generic word, but I always associate it with my ex because of that email.

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Also, you shouldn't take it personally. If those girls think she shouldn't be dating you, it's not necessarily that they think you're a bad person or doing the girl wrong (although you might be, and maybe they do think that; don't know the details). But friends usually advise a friend not to see someone because they think something about the situation is not good for their friend. It might not be about you as a person, but more the dynamic that exists.

 

For instance, there was a time I wanted to advise a friend of mine to stop seeing this guy that she was seeing. It wasn't because I thought the guy was bad or that he mistreated her. I just thought she was settling, and I didn't want to see her do that.

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the op said that the girls never met him so its not possible for them to form the right opinion of him or anyone else, agree?

 

None of us ever met the op's gf, yet many have formed opinions about her behavior based on what the op has said here.

 

The gf talking to her friends for input and advice is very similar to the op posting here for input and advice, except that she actually knows her friends, and they actually know her. I don't see how the op can criticize his gf for discussing the relationship with her friends when he is doing basically the same thing here. If it is truly between you and your gf, and you don't want her discussing the relationship with her friends, why are you posting threads about the relationship here?

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oh please. What's to be jealous of, seriously? Except other older guys who wanna get with teenagers.

 

Give me a break.

 

Her friends could be jealous that they don't have a guy giving them attention.

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Her friends could be jealous that they don't have a guy giving them attention.

 

um, ok... last time I checked, most teenage women don't have any issues getting 'attention' from a guy.

 

They have issues getting the kind of 'attention' they like or are good for them.

 

Which is kind of the point here, and maybe what her friends are trying to clue her in on. That maybe, just maybe... the fact he is older doesn't make him more mature or thoughtful.

 

Which, based on his posts, is pretty obvious. He's annoyed that her friends are messing with his 'good time'. Instead of realizing that his 'good time' was short-lived to begin with because this interaction had nothing to do with mutual support and caring.

 

It was all about him getting his needs met at her expense. Fine. I (and some others) suggested he find another sucker or do some introspection. Instead, he just wants to pout and whine that his sucker isn't a sucker anymore.

 

Sounds like a big waste of time for all involved. He had his fun. What's the big deal?

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Well, you have to understand that her friend was there long before you were.

 

I always listen to my friends (the true, real friend that I have had my entire life, the ones that are never wrong and always support me and back me up). My closest friends have always been right in every relationship situation I have ever been in, so if they tell me dating someone is a bad idea, I will listen to them.

 

Doesn't mean I will break up with the guy. What can I say, i'm stubborn :p But i would definitely listen.

 

However this situation is different. Her friend hasn't even met you, so on what grounds is she telling your gf that you are bad news?

 

The only thing I can think of is that your girlfriend is talking bad about you. If all she ever says to her friend is how annoying, mean, bad or stupid you are, then her friend will obviously assume you aren't worth it. If your gf only spoke about how incredible you were, I don't think her friend would object.

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None of us ever met the op's gf, yet many have formed opinions about her behavior based on what the op has said here.

 

The gf talking to her friends for input and advice is very similar to the op posting here for input and advice, except that she actually knows her friends, and they actually know her. I don't see how the op can criticize his gf for discussing the relationship with her friends when he is doing basically the same thing here. If it is truly between you and your gf, and you don't want her discussing the relationship with her friends, why are you posting threads about the relationship here?

 

That's the thing -- I get that there should be privacy and boundaries in truly intimate relationships. However, the OP has never posted anything to suggest either he or his "GF" (who I thought wanted to reduce the R? And was only a fun time anyway? His threads are contradictory) are taking this relationship seriously in that way, so I wouldn't expect any sort of privacy of that nature. Additionally, "showing your friends pictures" is a normal thing to do, if they haven't met the guy in person, and why would anyone's picture be private? Unless she's showing some kind of top secret raunchy pics, I mean. But why is what you look like a secret to her friends? I don't understand that.

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Shaun-Dro, look: Here's the deal. She's not distancing herself from you because of what her friend is saying. If she didn't want to distance herself from you, she wouldn't do it, no matter what anyone says.

 

She's immature, and so she's telling you that it's someone else's idea because she's too chicken to tell you the truth.

 

But people - men AND women - don't pull away because someone else told them to. People are stubborn that way. I don't know a single person who has broken up with someone because they were advised to do so. But I know many people who flat-out ignore any such advice.

 

So, time to face it: The reason she's pulling away is because she wants to pull away. Maybe the push-pull thing will go on for a while, but in the end, that's all it is.

 

Sorry, but this relationship isn't happening.

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None of us ever met the op's gf, yet many have formed opinions about her behavior based on what the op has said here.

 

The gf talking to her friends for input and advice is very similar to the op posting here for input and advice, except that she actually knows her friends, and they actually know her. I don't see how the op can criticize his gf for discussing the relationship with her friends when he is doing basically the same thing here. If it is truly between you and your gf, and you don't want her discussing the relationship with her friends, why are you posting threads about the relationship here?

 

Yeah, but he is "all that" because he has a wiener (as far as I can tell, this is his claim to fame), while she is female and thus, "silly" and not "correct."

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None of us ever met the op's gf, yet many have formed opinions about her behavior based on what the op has said here.

Yes, people have formed opinions. It's okay to get some insights from others. But to follow the advice of a person who has had little to no contact with your significant other is ridiculous. And women do this alot. Are you honestly going to tell me if your significant other's friend, whose never met you, told your SO to start distancing himself from you, you wouldn't be offended? Come on.

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I'm annoyed right now because my current girlfriend is on the fence, since one of her friends told her she shouldn't be dating me. This friend doesn't even know me from a hole in the wall!! :mad:

 

My sweetheart wants space now because of this silliness and I'm seething over it. I'm also pissed about her showing pictures of us together to these strange people she likes to call friends. Why can't she see that our affair, relationship, whatever you wanna call it, is our business only? Agree?

 

Have you ever actually spoken to/been with her friend before? If she doesn't know you at all like you say, then probably the only way she would have gotten a bad impression of you is by what your girlfriend said about you to her, which means your girlfriend likely doesn't think as favorably toward you as you might imagine.

 

And I don't get the picture thing either. What's the problem with her showing pictures?

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Also, you shouldn't take it personally. If those girls think she shouldn't be dating you, it's not necessarily that they think you're a bad person or doing the girl wrong (although you might be, and maybe they do think that; don't know the details). But friends usually advise a friend not to see someone because they think something about the situation is not good for their friend. It might not be about you as a person, but more the dynamic that exists.

 

For instance, there was a time I wanted to advise a friend of mine to stop seeing this guy that she was seeing. It wasn't because I thought the guy was bad or that he mistreated her. I just thought she was settling, and I didn't want to see her do that.

 

I understand what you're saying but what difference would it make in your life if your friend settles or not? If that's what she wanted to do then you should respect that; not try to encourage her to do otherwise.

 

I don't really care what people think of me or who I choose to date. It's not a concern of mine. People can say whatever they want. But when the people interfere and cause riff in a relationship, whether it's just casual or serious, then we got problems, because I don't see it as the people doing my soon-to-be ex-girlfriend a favor. I see it as jealousy because they're probably miserable being alone and want to keep her within that circle.

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That's the thing -- I get that there should be privacy and boundaries in truly intimate relationships. However, the OP has never posted anything to suggest either he or his "GF" (who I thought wanted to reduce the R? And was only a fun time anyway? His threads are contradictory) are taking this relationship seriously in that way, so I wouldn't expect any sort of privacy of that nature. Additionally, "showing your friends pictures" is a normal thing to do, if they haven't met the guy in person, and why would anyone's picture be private? Unless she's showing some kind of top secret raunchy pics, I mean. But why is what you look like a secret to her friends? I don't understand that.

 

My thread does not contradict anything. Obviously you don't know how to read between the lines like so many others. I'm forced to spoon-feed you!

 

Anyway, when I said she wants to reduce our relationship, I was talking in the sense of not seeing me like she used to so we can have fun. That's what started to bug me. I'm not considering getting serious with her. And no where in any of my posts have I suggested it. :mad:

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Newsflash bro: Women don't do this sort of thing to guys they're really into. They'll tell their friends everything [if they're under 21 especially] but if she is truly hooked on you her friends can't do much to pull her off you. I'm actually suspecting that the "friend" thing is some sort of excuse.

 

You can take offense and lash out some more or you can consider it and stop this sort of thing from keeping on happening to you.

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