Feelsgoodman Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Probably due in part that a majority of people who are famous and in the media spotlight (athletes, musicians, actors) are men. There are no female actors, musicians, etc? Where do you live? Afghanistan? 1
Pyro Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 There are no female actors, musicians, etc? Do you live in Afghanistan? I will put it in big letters so you are sure to not miss it this time: MAJORITY That means that the number of men outnumber the women. 1
LittlePrince Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 An important component to a woman's attraction is status. That's why the groupie phenomenon is mostly restricted to women.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Disgusting sheep. I have a lot of sheep and they are not in the least bit disgusting.
Feelsgoodman Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Personally, I do not go out to late night bar stuff, and neither does my husband, but it's not because of any kind of "tight rein" or control one of us has upon the other. It's our personal style and how we choose to conduct ourselves. If I did want to go out dancing with friends, I am sure he would not see it as his place or duty to "allow" me to do so. We are both adults here with freedom of choice. Freedom of choice is nice, but it's not absolute. Common sense dictates what is and is not acceptable in a relationship. Late night dancing/drinking without your husband present is not acceptable. Since you don't do it anyway, it's not an issue, but if you wanted to go to nightclubs without your husband, he'd have every right to tell you that you can't. Relationships are about comprise and mutual respect. You can't just whatever the hell you want and use "freedom of choice" as an excuse.
Pyro Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I have a lot of sheep and they are not in the least bit disgusting. Mrs. Pyro made a delicious lamb casserole yesterday. Should I assume that she poisoned it?
LittlePrince Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I have a lot of sheep and they are not in the least bit disgusting. Are you a kiwi?
Feelsgoodman Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I will put it in big letters so you are sure to not miss it this time: MAJORITY That means that the number of men outnumber the women. If you are talking about America, the majority of pop stars are female (just look at who's topping the charts nowadays). Actors are 50/50. Not sure where you get the idea that male celebrities outnumber female ones.
Pyro Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 If you are talking about America, the majority of pop stars are female (just look at who's topping the charts nowadays). Actors are 50/50. Not sure where you get the idea that male celebrities outnumber female ones. and aside from pop stars the music industry is majority male. I agree that Hollywood is about equal but sports is predominately male.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Why is it so popular here on LoveShack for one of a handful of guys to scour the Internet for some news of women behaving "badly" and then bring it here as proof of what scumbags we are as a whole? Do you not realize how stupid that is, and what a waste of time? And how easy it would be to find articles about men being bad? But why would anyone bother to waste time doing this, whether they're a man or a woman? It proves nothing. 3
snug.bunny Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 If you are talking about America, the majority of pop stars are female (just look at who's topping the charts nowadays) Not true: Music Charts, Most Popular Music, Music by Genre & Top Music Charts | Billboard.com Bwahahaha. 1
Badsingularity Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 We're all promiscuous lesbian cookie eaters at heart! Why yes, yes you are.
Kamille Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Just for fun, I'll pretend to take these guys seriously. I'd say you have the dynamics all wrong, Stevieboy, Why are their more women groupies? Because men like to be admired. There is so much anecdotal evidence out there that men require admiration above all, that it's a regular theme in "Men-Mars-Books". We all know this means men wouldn't date anyone that was more admirable than them, made more money than them, had more success than them. What is the problem with men? Why do they always need to be the center of attention? 2
d'Arthez Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 What is the problem with men? Why do they always need to be the center of attention? They are heavier. Women, who weigh less on average, should naturally gravitate towards them. It is a law of nature. Or was Newton blabbering about some other force of attraction? 1
Kamille Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 They are heavier. Women' date=' who weigh less on average, should naturally gravitate towards them. It is a law of nature. Or was Newton blabbering about some other force of attraction?[/quote'] Ha! So what you're saying is that I should gain weight and date guys that are smaller than me?
d'Arthez Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Ha! So what you're saying is that I should gain weight and date guys that are smaller than me? Well, Newton died a virgin, so I am not sure if he had human dating in mind when he came up with his theories. I think in his time women were seen as passive, and men as active (you'd be surprised to find what they thought about sexual reproduction, and how that worked; this idea of women being passive naturally found its expression in there as well). Einstein revolutionized Newton's theories, but I am not sure what the implications were for women. He did claim that "Gravity is not responsible for people falling in love" though. Edited June 17, 2012 by d'Arthez Einstein quote added.
Feelsgoodman Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Because men like to be admired. There is so much anecdotal evidence out there that men require admiration above all, that it's a regular theme in "Men-Mars-Books". We all know this means men wouldn't date anyone that was more admirable than them, made more money than them, had more success than them. I haven't read the "Men-Mars-Books" but the anecdotal evidence that I've been exposed to suggests that women, on average, are far greater attention wh*res than men. Just look at the profiles of your facebook "friends". Women tend to post far more self-promotion type pics (i.e. duck face pics, pics of them clubbing, etc.) than men.
Kamille Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I haven't read the "Men-Mars-Books" but the anecdotal evidence that I've been exposed to suggests that women, on average, are far greater attention wh*res than men. Just look at the profiles of your facebook "friends". Women tend to post far more self-promotion type pics (i.e. duck face pics, pics of them clubbing, etc.) than men. Looked. Evidence fails to support your hypothesis. My friends, men or women, are not of the attention-whoring kind.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Common sense dictates what is and is not acceptable in a relationship. I agree. Late night dancing/drinking without your husband present is not acceptable. To you. if you wanted to go to nightclubs without your husband, he'd have every right to tell you that you can't. Not in the world I live in, absolutely not. Certainly he has the right to tell me that he finds it unacceptable, how he feels about it, and that he will not stay with me if I do it. But that I "can't"?? No. I cannot conceive of a relationship where one person has the power of determining what the other one "can" and "can't" do. I don't think it would be sustainable. One of the keystones for a good relationship would be both people being on the same page about what is and isn't acceptable from the start, without any "enforcement" needed from a dominant partner. Relationships are about comprise and mutual respect. You can't just whatever the hell you want and use "freedom of choice" as an excuse. I agree with this 100%, but telling someone what they can and can't do is not compromise nor is it respectful. For the record, my husband and I spend a lot of time apart due to his work and my avocation. I spend many weekends away doing my hobby with my group of close friends. He is not worried about how I am spending my hours while I'm gone, and I'm not worried about his extracurricular activities while he is on the road, either. We trust each other. Also, we understood that these things were in place when we go together.
d'Arthez Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 To get back on topic: the lack of famous women? What female sports players do you know? How mainstream is the female sport? More often than not the sport is hardly economically viable. So basically you are left with a few Hollywood actresses and some singers; half of which are involved in girl-bands, so not really targeting men as their audience. Then there are matters of sexual risks, as well as risks to the reputation of the artist / sportsperson. Last time I checked running around on a tennis court while you are eight months pregnant is not exactly recommended by doctors. Even for the men it is quite stupid to engage in casual sex like that. For all you know you end up a father to a child you did not bother to think about. Which can seriously damage one's reputation. Ask Tiger.
Feelsgoodman Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 To you. To any man who is not a fool. When was the last time you've been to a nightclub? A woman who is more or less attractive would be approached and hit on repeatedly (and sometimes very persistently) by multiple men throughout the night. The fact that a woman who is in a committed relationship would want to put herself in such an environment in the first place tells you everything you need to know. Not in the world I live in, absolutely not. Certainly he has the right to tell me that he finds it unacceptable, how he feels about it, and that he will not stay with me if I do it. But that I "can't"?? No. While he can't legally force you not to do it, he absolutely can - and should - make it a condition of your continued spousal relationship. For the record, my husband and I spend a lot of time apart due to his work and my avocation. I spend many weekends away doing my hobby with my group of close friends. He is not worried about how I am spending my hours while I'm gone, and I'm not worried about his extracurricular activities while he is on the road, either. We trust each other. Also, we understood that these things were in place when we go together. What exactly is your hobby? If it's something like gardening or playing bingo it's certainly quite different from getting wasted and attending hook up venues (a.k.a. nightclubs). 2
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 What exactly is your hobby? If it's something like gardening or playing bingo it's certainly quite different from getting wasted and attending hook up venues (a.k.a. nightclubs). It's a sport, it's coed, and I travel all over to compete in it. There are indeed some drunken parties and sometimes questionable behavior around some of the events. I don't drink at all. I am not interested in screwing around. I'm old, though (even though age doesn't seem to stop plenty of people from having affairs). If my husband were insecure in general, or about my character, he could dislike this plenty. Fortunately, this is not the case. I am very grateful. I do love music, and if a show I really want to see is playing and my husband is out of town, I will go by myself, with a friend, or with my daughter and her friends. He is happy for me when I get to see someone I really like.
Feelsgoodman Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 It's a sport, it's coed, and I travel all over to compete in it. There are indeed some drunken parties and sometimes questionable behavior around some of the events. I don't drink at all. I am not interested in screwing around. I'm old, though (even though age doesn't seem to stop plenty of people from having affairs). Context is pretty important here. If you weren't old and didn't mind drinking, it would be a very different situation. Every person, whether male or female, would cheat given the right circumstances. Admittedly, some people are more prone to this than others, but everyone is capable of infidelity. It's just human nature. Part of being a good partner/spouse is avoiding situations that could potentially lead to infidelity. Call it avoiding temptation, if you want to go with a biblical theme. When you consume alcohol (which, whether you like it or not, clouds your judgment) and go to a place that has a sexual vibe and where there are a lot of attractive people, you are doing the exact opposite. And no matter how you may try to rationalize it, it is not appropriate behavior for someone in a committed relationship. 1
Kamille Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Context is pretty important here. If you weren't old and didn't mind drinking, it would be a very different situation. Every person, whether male or female, would cheat given the right circumstances. Admittedly, some people are more prone to this than others, but everyone is capable of infidelity. It's just human nature. Part of being a good partner/spouse is avoiding situations that could potentially lead to infidelity. Call it avoiding temptation, if you want to go with a biblical theme. When you consume alcohol (which, whether you like it or not, clouds your judgment) and go to a place that has a sexual vibe and where there are a lot of attractive people, you are doing the exact opposite. And no matter how you may try to rationalize it, it is not appropriate behavior for someone in a committed relationship. So you would have no issues with your partner not "allowing" you to out with the boys for a night in the town?
Feelsgoodman Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 So you would have no issues with your partner not "allowing" you to out with the boys for a night in the town? I'm not a hypocrite.
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