SteveC80 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Why are women more into having one night stands just because someones famous more then Men? Im sure there are some out there but not nearly in the numbers you see women throwing themsleves at guys after concerts or at pro athletes,why is the power and fame such more of an aphrodisiac for women then Men to where some women are so hypnotized by the power and/or fame theyre willing to have nothing more then aone night stand just to get a taste of it? My friends a publicist for athletes heres what he wrote: I'm a publicist, and I've worked with high-profile athletes for nearly 15 years. Olympic gold medalists, NFL All-Pros and Super Bowl champions, MLB All-Stars and World Series champions, even an NBA player on a championship team once. I'm not really a nightlife guy, but there are times when I need to accompany clients to clubs, concerts, after-parties, whatever. When I first started, I remember my mouth dropping at every attractive woman who approached one of my clients, and at the things they would say to them or offer them. Now, I don't even bat an eyelash. The only reaction you may get from me is a laugh if it's an approach I haven't heard before. I've seen women slip their numbers to my clients while their boyfriends weren't looking. I've seen women ditch their boyfriends in the bar just for a shot at one of my clients—and I've seen my client shoot those same women down just to laugh at them. I write this after seeing last week's story of Terry Francona trading pictures with some guy's girlfriend. What this boyfriend needs to know is this: Most likely it was your girlfriend who approached him initially. The odds are that she escalated what was happening. I speak from experience. One of my former MLB clients used to have me keep a phone for him. Part of my job was to respond to the women who texted. His only instructions were to "see how dirty they get." Which turned out to be much easier than I expected. A few of the women were married. One was a newlywed who swore at the start she just wanted to be friends. She loved her new husband and would never consider such a thing. Two texts later—one of which was "but my cock is so hard for you"—I had a picture of her tits. She was making plans to come see "me" in a city close to her. I asked her if she would just come in, **** "me," and leave without saying a single word. Her response is one I'll never forget: "I'll do whatever you want. I want to be your cum slut." My client just laughed when I showed it to him. The guy whose girl sent the boob shot to Francona? It could've been so much worse for him. No woman is off-limits for a sports figure. I once went to a billiards bar with another client, the NBA player. The place doubled as a night club, and because my guy had just won a title, heads turned the moment we walked in. An attractive married woman—she had a huge rock on her finger—came over and started hitting on my client immediately and relentlessly. After a while, her husband came out from the dance club area, clearly upset. He never threatened anything physical. He barely even raised his voice. He just wanted to know what she was doing. His wife played dumb. So my client spoke up: "Your girl is trying to **** me." The husband got into it a little with his wife. He wanted to leave. My client called over one of the bouncers and told him to get rid of the couple. The wife decided to stay. The husband got booted. He was irate. She didn't care. Five minutes later, my client was having sex with her in the back office of the club. She left, and he never talked to her again. Obviously, we have no idea what happened with the marriage.
dasein Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 They will either a) not admit this goes on constantly, b) claim it's only LSE women, or c) claim men do it just as much . We know otherwise. I have been the beneficiary and victim of this on many occasions in different ways. Throughout college, GFs of friends, "high quality" women, who thought me a better catch would hit on me, sometimes right in front of their BF, grab my ass, even try to kiss me, not drunk. I have been upgraded by having women dump me and a perfectly fine relationship for the BBD multimillionaire on several occasions. Could type out tons of "upgrade" and BBD stories that have happened to me and friends over the years. It's a reality of life with women that they won't admit, but know full well it's true. Guys seeking dating advice, never ever let a woman, any woman, think she owns you. Never spout out lovey dovey feelings talk to a woman who isn't 1000% head over heels for you and begging you for sex constantly. Once you do these attraction killing things, the kind of behavior described in the OP is highly likely. Also monitor your GF's friends. Single or divorced friends of your GF will try to lead her astray at every opportunity and you will never realize it's going on. Restrict girl's night out to early evening things, NEVER allow late night trips to clubs or bars. People, men or women, who are in committed relationships have need of social outlets, but never late drinking and dancing nights out without you. Never. 1
Woggle Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I am sure most men would not turn down a sex symbol but most of us are not attracted to fame and money in women. No amount of success can make us lust after an unattractive woman but fame in and of itself tend to attract women.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I am sure most men would not turn down a sex symbol but most of us are not attracted to fame and money in women. No amount of success can make us lust after an unattractive woman but fame in and of itself tend to attract women. You're so smart! I agree with this.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Guys seeking dating advice, never ever let a woman, any woman, think she owns you. Never spout out lovey dovey feelings talk to a woman who isn't 1000% head over heels for you and begging you for sex constantly. Once you do these attraction killing things, the kind of behavior described in the OP is highly likely. Also monitor your GF's friends. Single or divorced friends of your GF will try to lead her astray at every opportunity and you will never realize it's going on. Restrict girl's night out to early evening things, NEVER allow late night trips to clubs or bars. Note to guys seeking dating advice: I promise you that I know lots of people in good relationships, married and not, among people of diverse ages. Not even one of them features the man "restricting," "monitoring," "allowing," the woman to do or not do things. These would be the hallmark of a relationship with a man who had serious control issues and who should be quickly evaded. A boyfriend or husband is not a dad, an authority figure, enforcer, or a warden for his girlfriend or wife. Also, a woman "constantly begging" for sex in order to be doled out some affection from a man is in a sick, sick, sick relationship. Just in case you didn't figure these things out for yourselves - which I certainly hope almost all of you have. 1
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 My friends a publicist for athletes heres what he wrote: OP, "Anonymous Publicist" is your "friend"? That dumb article is all over the Internet; it's achieved meme status. Yes, groupies abound, but this crap you quoted is nothing but fodder for you hatin' on the wimmins guys. I'm pretty sure "Anonymous Publicist" is just another forever alone loser, probably without a job at all, hoping to make himself feel better by trashing other people. 1
dasein Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Either keep a tight rein on your GF guys, make it very clear that you will not tolerate BBD/upgrading flirtations in any way, shape or form, or end up like the guy in the OP whose wife screwed a pro athlete practically in front of him. Be ready to walk at any moment if such behavior crops up (it will), be a little edgy, or be a doormat. Choice is yours, and unfortunately they have demonstrated there's no room for middle ground here. Either lead and wear the pants, or risk becoming a cuckold, choice is yours. Ironically, when you do have a tight rein on the relationship, they don't stray nearly as much. Up to you whether you keep the cookie jar on top of the fridge or down on the cabinet where wayward female hands can reach. Rein em in! And yes, parties in a relationship, men and women both, absolutely do have the right to dictate terms of their relationship to their partner within reason. Limiting night drinking and partying activities when you aren't around isn't controlling in any way, mostly common sense. Dozens if not hundreds of threads here are a testament to this. Prospective partners who bristle at that as being controlling are generally selfish, low quality and usually not a good bet for a relationship anyway. They will make your life miserable. Avoid. Oh, and Chaucer, the point of not making declarations of affection or love until she is constantly begging for sex is not a causal or reward quid pro quo transaction, merely a gauge for men of when such declarations will be productive or counterproductive. I suspect you know that full well though, just another fun day of distorting the plain intent and language of dasein's posts here for you. 3
Woggle Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I don't act possessive at all but once a woman betrays my trust it is over. There are no second chances and she is out of my life for good.
Pyro Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Why are women more into having one night stands just because someones famous more then Men? Probably due in part that a majority of people who are famous and in the media spotlight (athletes, musicians, actors) are men. 2
FitChick Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 I must be the only woman who finds fame unattractive. I am very private and my nightmare would be dating someone who has the paparazzi stalking him. That's the only thing keeping me from being happily married to Gerard Butler.
dasein Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Yes, groupies abound, but this crap you quoted is nothing but fodder for you hatin' on the wimmins guys. I'm pretty sure "Anonymous Publicist" is just another forever alone loser, probably without a job at all, hoping to make himself feel better by trashing other people. Nothing hateful about it, just learning the given realities of female nature and responding to it. I'm not "anonymous publicist," but do have many wealthy clients and friends, not in pro sports, but the effect is exactly the same. I've seen way too many nipples get hard around wealthy friends to think there's anything false or made up in the article OP quoted. Many women respond viscerally and sexually to wealth, power and celebrity, much moreso than men, and a man who doesn't understand this and conduct himself accordingly in relationships, who looks the other way, deserves what he gets. This entails not only understanding the female response to power, but the menstrual cycle and female hormones. I've deserved it every time I've ever been upgraded, and looking back, more of an iron fist was in order. Having not been upgraded in years bears this out IME.
Feelsgoodman Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Why are women more into having one night stands just because someones famous more then Men? Women are followers by nature. That's why chicks are so into fashion (following latest trends). And that's why there are virtually no self-made female entrepreneurs. Even when it comes to female fashion, most famous designers are men. What does that have to do with groupies? Simple. Women want what they think other women want. If a guy is famous and popular, women automatically want him. And it doesn't just apply to celebrities either. Ever wonder why you get a lot more attention from women when you have a girlfriend, as opposed to when you're single? If a guy has a girlfriend/wife (particularly a cute one), women automatically assume he's popular with the ladies and start giving him attention/competing for him. 2
USMCHokie Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Famous women already can get the famous men without having to put in the effort of being a groupie. Men can't chase after famous women who aren't available to be groupied...
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Either keep a tight rein on your GF guys, make it very clear that you will not tolerate BBD/upgrading flirtations in any way, shape or form, or end up like the guy in the OP whose wife screwed a pro athlete practically in front of him. Be ready to walk at any moment if such behavior crops up (it will), be a little edgy, or be a doormat. Choice is yours, and unfortunately they have demonstrated there's no room for middle ground here. Either lead and wear the pants, or risk becoming a cuckold, choice is yours. Ironically, when you do have a tight rein on the relationship, they don't stray nearly as much. Up to you whether you keep the cookie jar on top of the fridge or down on the cabinet where wayward female hands can reach. Rein em in! And yes, parties in a relationship, men and women both, absolutely do have the right to dictate terms of their relationship to their partner within reason. Limiting night drinking and partying activities when you aren't around isn't controlling in any way, mostly common sense. Dozens if not hundreds of threads here are a testament to this. Prospective partners who bristle at that as being controlling are generally selfish, low quality and usually not a good bet for a relationship anyway. They will make your life miserable. Avoid. Oh, and Chaucer, the point of not making declarations of affection or love until she is constantly begging for sex is not a causal or reward quid pro quo transaction, merely a gauge for men of when such declarations will be productive or counterproductive. I suspect you know that full well though, just another fun day of distorting the plain intent and language of dasein's posts here for you. So, honestly. Do you think that if YOU became involved with a woman, you would need her to keep a "tight rein" on YOU, as well as "dictate" her terms, "tolerate" or not tolerate your behavior? Do you see your own propensity to be faithful as analogous to accessibility to a cookie jar that needs a guardian to assure it's out of the reach of YOUR "wayward hands?" It's a two way street. Personally, I do not go out to late night bar stuff, and neither does my husband, but it's not because of any kind of "tight rein" or control one of us has upon the other. It's our personal style and how we choose to conduct ourselves. If I did want to go out dancing with friends, I am sure he would not see it as his place or duty to "allow" me to do so. We are both adults here with freedom of choice. Regarding the spam posted here by the OP: Interesting how his cut and paste has given rise to a discussion (lead by you, dasein) about how women need to be handled by men in order to keep their supposedly uncontrollable groupie urges in check. Meanwhile, I wonder how many of the fabulous athletes partaking of the groupies' offerings are married themselves?
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Probably due in part that a majority of people who are famous and in the media spotlight (athletes, musicians, actors) are men. So, tell us … Do you have a tight rein on your lovely bride, in order to keep her wayward hands out of that cookie jar full of irresistible hunks of man?
Pyro Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 So, tell us … Do you have a tight rein on your lovely bride, in order to keep her wayward hands out of that cookie jar full of irresistible hunks of man? damn straight. Can't trust any of you outside of the kitchen.
USMCHokie Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 damn straight. Can't trust any of you outside of the kitchen. That's why they make me wait in the bathroom whenever I come to visit...
LittlePrince Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Women feel more comfortable having sex when another woman is in the bed. Women are a fierce proponent of the buddy system. Remember to bring a buddy.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 damn straight. Can't trust any of you outside of the kitchen. But … that's where the cookie jar resides! It's true that I can't really trust myself around a cookie jar. If it weren't for my husband's strict dictation of what he will and will not tolerate, along with his firm disciplinary actions when I transgress, I would eat so many of them I'd be a total lardass.
Pyro Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 That's why they make me wait in the bathroom whenever I come to visit... I bet they didn't flush
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Women feel more comfortable having sex when another woman is in the bed. Women are a fierce proponent of the buddy system. Remember to bring a buddy. We're all promiscuous lesbian cookie eaters at heart!
Pyro Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 But … that's where the cookie jar resides! It's true that I can't really trust myself around a cookie jar. If it weren't for my husband's strict dictation of what he will and will not tolerate, along with his firm disciplinary actions when I transgress, I would eat so many of them I'd be a total lardass. you women are complicated. I give up. I will now make it a crusade to post on here all day and night about how I believe that women are poopy. (Insert Caius Ballad face)
carhill Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 Why are women more into having one night stands just because someones famous more then Men? It's just more obvious because, generally, men are more into one night stands/casual sex. No celebrity required
LittlePrince Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 We're all promiscuous lesbian cookie eaters at heart! Wasn't implying that but if you say so.
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