Quiet Storm Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 I hate your son. Yes it's jealousy. I know you have a different perspective, but even the popular guys got problems. Stalker girls are no fun. We had one that was calling my house multiple times in the middle of the night and hanging up when I answered, because he wouldn't answer his cell. She also came over after school and when he wouldn't answer the door, she tried to pick our front door lock with a piece of wood (she wasn't too bright), getting the lock so clogged up with little wood chips that our keys wouldn't work. She also got some innocent girl fired from her job because she thought the girl was with my son and went to her job causing drama. She also told some other guy lies and my son almost got in a fight. So having good luck with the ladies isn't always a picnic. Also, I worry about the naked pics. These 15-16 YO girls really have no clue what risks they are taking with these pics. I have lost sleep and & combed verizon records worrying that he may have forwarded to his friends or posted those pics somewhere. 1
somedude81 Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 I know you have a different perspective, but even the popular guys got problems. Stalker girls are no fun. We had one that was calling my house multiple times in the middle of the night and hanging up when I answered, because he wouldn't answer his cell. She also came over after school and when he wouldn't answer the door, she tried to pick our front door lock with a piece of wood (she wasn't too bright), getting the lock so clogged up with little wood chips that our keys wouldn't work. She also got some innocent girl fired from her job because she thought the girl was with my son and went to her job causing drama. She also told some other guy lies and my son almost got in a fight. So having good luck with the ladies isn't always a picnic. Also, I worry about the naked pics. These 15-16 YO girls really have no clue what risks they are taking with these pics. I have lost sleep and & combed verizon records worrying that he may have forwarded to his friends or posted those pics somewhere. Nothing you can say will ever make me feel bad for your son or that he has it worse than I do in any way whatsoever. He has had more female attention then I have ever had in my entire life. As a side note, anybody who said that looks and height do not matter, is completely and utterly full of sh*t.
Joaquin Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Not at all. Neither mum or dad were player types. They knew nothing about the "game" and so had nothing on that front to teach. I think if I was a dad I'd tell my kids don't let a good one go. I wish my parents had of said that to me in my earlier years. But I suppose i'd have ignored them anyway.
fortyninethousand322 Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Nothing you can say will ever make me feel bad for your son or that he has it worse than I do in any way whatsoever. He has had more female attention then I have ever had in my entire life. As a side note, anybody who said that looks and height do not matter, is completely and utterly full of sh*t. Sure looks and height matter, but they're not the end all be all. Perhaps if you had more friends, you would know guys who are short, guys who are weird looking, etc. who had girlfriends. One of my best friends just got married about 6 months ago to a pretty good looking, nice woman. He's short (5'6" maybe 5'7"), skinny, and lives at home. There are other guys I know too, I'm just using him as one example. As far as the jealousy thing goes, yeah I think it would be nice to have stalker girls too for a change rather than having to struggle to get a girl to make eye contact with you. But, it's just life and how it works.
ThaWholigan Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Nothing you can say will ever make me feel bad for your son or that he has it worse than I do in any way whatsoever. He has had more female attention then I have ever had in my entire life. As a side note, anybody who said that looks and height do not matter, is completely and utterly full of sh*t. I hate posts like this. Stop thinking about how worse you have it than anyone, and just start thinking about how you are going to improve your life. Dwelling on look and height is counterproductive, whether it matters or not. Just stop it.
ptp Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Not a damn thing. My entire family and I have come to an unspoken understanding that we don't talk about dating or relationships... Same here bro. If it wasn't for the few women who were good enough to have dated me, I would literally know nothing.
Els Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 I.. don't understand. Should I be angry that Scarlett Johanssen probably has men everywhere laying down at her feet begging her to date them and I don't?
somedude81 Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 I.. don't understand. Should I be angry that Scarlett Johanssen probably has men everywhere laying down at her feet begging her to date them and I don't? Do you want men everywhere laying down at your feet? Have you even had a problem with men at all?
ThaWholigan Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 As far as the jealousy thing goes, yeah I think it would be nice to have stalker girls too for a change rather than having to struggle to get a girl to make eye contact with you. But, it's just life and how it works. No I know guys who have been stalked by girls. You do NOT want a stalker. 1
Els Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Do you want men everywhere laying down at your feet? Do you want underage girls sending you pictures that could potentially lead to you being arrested? Have you even had a problem with men at all? Absolutely. Not as long as you have, I'll give you that, but for about five years or so.
fortyninethousand322 Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 No I know guys who have been stalked by girls. You do NOT want a stalker. Grass always looks greener on the other side doesn't it? It would just be nice to see both sides for yourself and then come to that conclusion.
somedude81 Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Do you want underage girls sending you pictures that could potentially lead to you being arrested? Are 10 year old girls sending pictures of themselves to her 16 year old son? Absolutely. Not as long as you have, I'll give you that, but for about five years or so. So from 17-22 you were unable to get a boyfriend or any dates at all?
fortyninethousand322 Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Do you want underage girls sending you pictures that could potentially lead to you being arrested? Isn't the guy in question also 16? So the equivalent would be 23 year old girls sending SD naked pics of themselves.
somedude81 Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) Isn't the guy in question also 16? So the equivalent would be 23 year old girls sending SD naked pics of themselves. Or when I was 16, having 16 year old girls sending naked pictures of themselves. My God, just trying to imagine how my life would have turned out if I had girls into me when I was young. I would be so completely different. Nothing about me or my life would be like it is now. Edited June 14, 2012 by somedude81
fortyninethousand322 Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Or when I was 16, having 16 year old girls sending naked pictures of themselves. Yeah. Although, given the ridiculous laws in this country that would probably still be illegal. That happened to my sister once, but the opposite (the guy sent pics). She deleted it but word somehow got out and the police detained her at school while they "searched" for the photo.
Els Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Isn't the guy in question also 16? So the equivalent would be 23 year old girls sending SD naked pics of themselves. It depends on the country involved, but it's still a crime in some if an underage girl performs sexual acts with an underage boy. The boy doesn't go to jail because he's a minor but it goes on his record and sometimes he is sent to rehabilitation. One would be wise to be wary. So from 17-22 you were unable to get a boyfriend or any dates at all? Why are you counting from 17? I had my first unrequited crush at 14 and my first bf at 19, yes. There was one boy who expressed interest, but that would have been the equivalent of your two-week relationship had I accepted it. Other offers were just harrassment by men twice my age on the street (and yes, you would not be terribly happy about women twice your age doing this either).
ThaWholigan Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 My God, just trying to imagine how my life would have turned out if I had girls into me when I was young. I would be so completely different. Nothing about me or my life would be like it is now. The past is the past is the past. Stop dwelling. Start doing what you know you are supposed to be doing and women will be into you eventually.
Els Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Edit: Also, SD, I know you are going to downplay my experience, by the way. And you would be right, as it is 'lesser' than yours. So, I also have several friends who have never had a bf, and they're 26, like me. They're not really turning down men either, they just don't stand out in most ways, including appearance-wise. A few of them were also unfortunate enough to be born with unpleasant facial features. They're really nice and sweet girls, though, so if a man happened to notice them he'd luck out.
Quiet Storm Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 I wasn't worried about the legality of the relationship between my son and the girls with the naked pictures. I was worried that he had forwarded them to his friends & they may have posted them somewhere. The scenario that was running through my mind was: What if he forwarded them to a friend, & his friends father or older brother got the pics and posted them on the internet. Since they originated from his phone, which is in my husband's name, that could be considered child porn distribution. Even though a 16YO girl sent them to a 16YO boy voluntarily- the content could still be considered child porn. Luckily, he did not forward them. He admitted to showing them to a friend before deleting- but I have the records and they were not forwarded. This is a very real problem, though. I think parents of girls need to do more to try and prevent this from happening. Many parents think their girls would never dream of taking naked pics of themselves, but I think girls figure out real quick that it gets them a lot of attention & they like it. 2
Author jobaba Posted June 14, 2012 Author Posted June 14, 2012 I.. don't understand. Should I be angry that Scarlett Johanssen probably has men everywhere laying down at her feet begging her to date them and I don't? Everything is relative. I have never had jealousy for guys like Quiet Storm Jr. He represents maybe the top 10-20% of guys and that is very far away from me. But I am jealous of guys who have had women who think they are physically attractive off the bat whom they are also attracted to. Let's be honest. This is something that happens for about 90% of the adult population. So, I can understand why young men AND WOMEN in that position would be frustrated, and rightfully so. But ... life is life. I'm an old codger and have more or less accepted most things.
Els Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Everything is relative. I have never had jealousy for guys like Quiet Storm Jr. He represents maybe the top 10-20% of guys and that is very far away from me. But I am jealous of guys who have had women who think they are physically attractive off the bat whom they are also attracted to. Let's be honest. This is something that happens for about 90% of the adult population. So, I can understand why young men AND WOMEN in that position would be frustrated, and rightfully so. But ... life is life. I'm an old codger and have more or less accepted most things. I think jealousy is normal and something many people face. Being completely ANGRY AND FULL OF RAGE, as SD mentioned in another thread, or unable to empathize at all with someone's problems because that person is getting more attention than they are, is a whole different story. 1
FitChick Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Most people grew up without fathers and that has created a rash of problems in dating and marriage, in my opinion.
somedude81 Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Edit: Also, SD, I know you are going to downplay my experience, by the way. And you would be right, as it is 'lesser' than yours. So, I also have several friends who have never had a bf, and they're 26, like me. They're not really turning down men either, they just don't stand out in most ways, including appearance-wise. A few of them were also unfortunate enough to be born with unpleasant facial features. They're really nice and sweet girls, though, so if a man happened to notice them he'd luck out. That's more similar then. I was about to say how not having your first BF until 19 was a complete non-issue. BTW, we all know that being nice and sweet doesn't mean crap in the dating game.
Els Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 *shrugs* I did say mine was only 5 years. You asked if 'I had ever had trouble'. It doesn't compare to yours, but it most certainly is 'ever'. Yeah, those girls are also fairly sheltered and don't really socialize much (they are also the ones whom I said listen too much to their parents' advice), so I think that's part of the issue. I told you this, though, to make a point that it's fairly normal for some people to have long dry stretches. It isn't just you. We aren't all holding up umbrellas to stave off the rain of men while you search desperately for a girl. Everyone has their own problems. 1
dasein Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 My father and mother started dating at 15, so were no help at all. Had to piece things together for myself over many years, which is why I post here hoping people will avoid mistakes I made while learning.
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