darkmoon Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Correcton: I want hot and honest:lmao: you said exactly this - "Sounds like she hates to say she was a slut." i am amazed at the hypocrisy am leaving this thread anyway
joystickd Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 you said exactly this - "Sounds like she hates to say she was a slut." i am amazed at the hypocrisy Yeah I said that but that doesn't mean I wouldn't date her damn. That is a big difference there. If she was honest about it then it wouldn't be a problem for me. When she didn't reveal then I get the impression something more it there and hell why be ashamed of what you do damn. I expect that if I'm honest about my past and she ended it because of what she didn't like I wouldn't have a problem with it because there are other women out here. Funny how you women on here complain about man-whore but the minute you come into question then men are hypocritical. Actions have consequences so deal with it because not everybody is not going to like what you have done. This is just a fact of life everyone has to deal with so woman up and deal with it.
darkmoon Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Yeah I said that but that doesn't mean I wouldn't date her damn. That is a big difference there. If she was honest about it then it wouldn't be a problem for me. When she didn't reveal then I get the impression something more it there and hell why be ashamed of what you do damn. I expect that if I'm honest about my past and she ended it because of what she didn't like I wouldn't have a problem with it because there are other women out here. but the minute you come into question then men are hypocritical. Actions have consequences so deal with it because not everybody is not going to like what you have done. This is just a fact of life everyone has to deal with so woman up and deal with it. Funny how you women on here complain about man-whore post me some actual examples, several/the majority, because i've neva seen this,
LittlePrince Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 There is some really horrible advice and plainly bitter people in this thread. ~ OP, if someone you are having a relationship tells you they don't want to talk about something you should oblige and not make demands. Bring it up some other time the next time the subject comes up. Or, you can act like an immature boy man over and over again with different women and learn the hard way... or possibly never learn at all and end up like some of the bitter bad apples on this forum. Exactly. You should never burden your SO with any sort of expectations. I find it funny when this comes up this only applies to women and not men.
LittlePrince Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Funny how you women on here complain about man-whore post me some actual examples, several/the majority, because i've neva seen this, Eyes wide shut.
joystickd Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Funny how you women on here complain about man-whore post me some actual examples, several/the majority, because i've neva seen this, You totally ignored everything else I said and decided to focus on that. When I speak you women I mean the fringe few. You get on here and complain about me being hypocritical when I never once mentioned on this thread I wouldn't date someone with a past. I won't engage further with someone that just made as a$$ out of themselves
darkmoon Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 (edited) You totally ignored everything else I said and decided to focus on that. When I speak you women I mean the fringe few. You get on here and complain about me being hypocritical when I never once mentioned on this thread I wouldn't date someone with a past. I won't engage further with someone that just made as a$$ out of themselves so, no actual examples then - it was the only thing i had an issue with, i read all of what you said - but you still show me no examples of any man-whore on LS - where has the phrase ever been used? Edited June 10, 2012 by darkmoon 1
phineas Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 You and the above posters can't speculate what her numbers are. No doubt she has had the experience of telling men her number in the past and gotten dumped if it is anything close to theirs. Men are huge hypocrites when it comes to how many partners a woman has had... Men think it is A-OK to be a man-whore and when they finally want to settle down, think women should be ok with it, even if she doesn't share the same experience. Then she should of known not to go down that road by asking OP his count. This is why I never ask. I don't care. They lie anyways. I love it when a woman sleeps with me on the first date then turns around and says "I never do this" or later on says "I haven't been with that many people" LOL! I aint no Ryan Reynolds so chances are she has done that before & can't even remember all the guys she's been with. 2
darkmoon Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 So you expect me to go and search on this forum with so many post for that. How about you do it since you are so damn curious about it? Try it. Maybe when I don't have s**t else to do I may do it but f**k it they should not be hard to find since you suggest so many are like this, man-whore was your point so you prove it, but i do not think you were being straight when you said it tbh, you prove it to me, if you're that concerned to prove it, that is 1
darkmoon Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Maybe later. I got s**t to do now. Hell you get off your lazy a$$ and find it damn come back later, it's your point, so the onus of proof is on you 1
RedRobin Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Then she should of known not to go down that road by asking OP his count. This is why I never ask. I don't care. They lie anyways. I love it when a woman sleeps with me on the first date then turns around and says "I never do this" or later on says "I haven't been with that many people" LOL! I aint no Ryan Reynolds so chances are she has done that before & can't even remember all the guys she's been with. I agree that it is best not to ask questions about things easily lied about and can't be verified. My biggest indicator of a man who sleeps around is one who pushes for sex early. The kind who would try for sex on the first date... So, it works both ways. If a guy wants to show me how 'easy' he is, the best way to accomplish that is to keep pushing for sex before he gets to know me. During periods in my life where I'm starved for affection, I am sometimes tempted to just use those guys for sex (they aren't 'relationship material'), but that wouldn't solve anything and it is not what I'm looking for. 1
phineas Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Yeah I said that but that doesn't mean I wouldn't date her damn. That is a big difference there. If she was honest about it then it wouldn't be a problem for me. When she didn't reveal then I get the impression something more it there and hell why be ashamed of what you do damn. I expect that if I'm honest about my past and she ended it because of what she didn't like I wouldn't have a problem with it because there are other women out here. Funny how you women on here complain about man-whore but the minute you come into question then men are hypocritical. Actions have consequences so deal with it because not everybody is not going to like what you have done. This is just a fact of life everyone has to deal with so woman up and deal with it. Yep. I'd rather have a woman that likes sex instead of one who doesn't. Can care less how many guys she's been with as long as she is clean. Just don't insult my intelligence by bringing it up and being dishonest about it. It reeks of insecurity & is a major turn-off. But, Jotstickd you have to understand the mindset of the typical LS bitter woman. They can't process the existence of a non-hypocritical man when it comes to sex so they lash out with Straw Man arguments. 1
phineas Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I agree that it is best not to ask questions about things easily lied about and can't be verified. My biggest indicator of a man who sleeps around is one who pushes for sex early. The kind who would try for sex on the first date... So, it works both ways. If a guy wants to show me how 'easy' he is, the best way to accomplish that is to keep pushing for sex before he gets to know me. During periods in my life where I'm starved for affection, I am sometimes tempted to just use those guys for sex (they aren't 'relationship material'), but that wouldn't solve anything and it is not what I'm looking for. I got friendzoned quite a bit because I didn't try to have sex with a woman when she invited me to her house for a movie on the first date. It blew my mind that they wanted sex that fast. I'm not aggressive at all in that department early on & it's cost me a LOT of sex. 2
joystickd Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Yep. I'd rather have a woman that likes sex instead of one who doesn't. Can care less how many guys she's been with as long as she is clean. Just don't insult my intelligence by bringing it up and being dishonest about it. It reeks of insecurity & is a major turn-off. But, Jotstickd you have to understand the mindset of the typical LS bitter woman. They can't process the existence of a non-hypocritical man when it comes to sex so they lash out with Straw Man arguments. So true so true. Maybe they can take that straw man to the wizard of oz.
RedRobin Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 They can't process the existence of a non-hypocritical man when it comes to sex so they lash out with Straw Man arguments. Perhaps, but when I see the slut word coming out of the mouths from so-called non-hypocritical men with the frequency I do... me thinks there is a different kind of fudging going on. The un-self-aware kind of fudging that goes along the lines of some women are good for relationships and other women are good for having fun with. I have no doubt that the so-called non-hypocritical men like sex from both 'types'... and keep their slut judgements to themselves while they are trying to get some... never pondering for a moment that they (the men) are being judged by their actions too. 2
RedRobin Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I got friendzoned quite a bit because I didn't try to have sex with a woman when she invited me to her house for a movie on the first date. It blew my mind that they wanted sex that fast. I'm not aggressive at all in that department early on & it's cost me a LOT of sex. Look on the bright side. Maybe it saved you an STD and alot of drama too. Not everything can be covered with a condom or insurance.
joystickd Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Perhaps, but when I see the slut word coming out of the mouths from so-called non-hypocritical men with the frequency I do... me thinks there is a different kind of fudging going on. The un-self-aware kind of fudging that goes along the lines of some women are good for relationships and other women are good for having fun with. I have no doubt that the so-called non-hypocritical men like sex from both 'types'... and keep their slut judgements to themselves while they are trying to get some... never pondering for a moment that they (the men) are being judged by their actions too. I said slut because if you are ashamed to admit it then you are a slut. Its as simple as that. If you are honest and can be forthcoming then cool. I don't deal with dishonesty or talking the option of not being forthcoming. You want me to be honest then I expect the same.
RedRobin Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I said slut because if you are ashamed to admit it then you are a slut. Its as simple as that. If you are honest and can be forthcoming then cool. I don't deal with dishonesty or talking the option of not being forthcoming. You want me to be honest then I expect the same. Actually, choosing not to divulge details about one's life is perfectly acceptable. You don't have to have a relationship with them or sleep with them. Choosing not to share certain things about one's life doesn't make them a slut. Especially if the opposite might be true. It just means they don't trust you with details about their life. There are things that I only share with my family and closest friends. I'm not about to dump my life story out for a near stranger to sift through. 2
joystickd Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Actually, choosing not to divulge details about one's life is perfectly acceptable. You don't have to have a relationship with them or sleep with them. Choosing not to share certain things about one's life doesn't make them a slut. Especially if the opposite might be true. It just means they don't trust you with details about their life. There are things that I only share with my family and closest friends. I'm not about to dump my life story out for a near stranger to sift through. Very hypocritical. Hell I'm going to throw it around freely like you women do (the use of hypocrite)
phineas Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Perhaps, but when I see the slut word coming out of the mouths from so-called non-hypocritical men with the frequency I do... me thinks there is a different kind of fudging going on. The un-self-aware kind of fudging that goes along the lines of some women are good for relationships and other women are good for having fun with. I have no doubt that the so-called non-hypocritical men like sex from both 'types'... and keep their slut judgements to themselves while they are trying to get some... never pondering for a moment that they (the men) are being judged by their actions too. For most LS men the definition of a slut is someone that sleeps with all the guys he knows but not him. LOL! The rest just don't like women. How a guy can sleep with many women casually & then call them sluts is not a healthy mind as far as i'm concerned. On the other hand I see some LS women who consider any other woman who doesn't make a man "earn" the sex their "giving" him a slut. Their unrealistic, don't like sex, or have their own issues. 3
phineas Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Look on the bright side. Maybe it saved you an STD and alot of drama too. Not everything can be covered with a condom or insurance. The STD defense is overblown, over exaggerated, & a crutch in my own opinion. I'm more concerned about getting some crazy chick pregnant & having her try to make my life a living hell. I just finally got out of the red from my divorce a few yrs ago. I can't afford a 3rd child support payment.
phineas Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Actually, choosing not to divulge details about one's life is perfectly acceptable. You don't have to have a relationship with them or sleep with them. Choosing not to share certain things about one's life doesn't make them a slut. Especially if the opposite might be true. It just means they don't trust you with details about their life. There are things that I only share with my family and closest friends. I'm not about to dump my life story out for a near stranger to sift through. So your family knows your count? 1
joystickd Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Actually, choosing not to divulge details about one's life is perfectly acceptable. You don't have to have a relationship with them or sleep with them. Choosing not to share certain things about one's life doesn't make them a slut. Especially if the opposite might be true. It just means they don't trust you with details about their life. There are things that I only share with my family and closest friends. I'm not about to dump my life story out for a near stranger to sift through. Is it perfectly acceptable for a man to not divulge that he was an abused someone in a previous relationship?
phineas Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 Is it perfectly acceptable for a man to not divulge that he was an abused someone in a previous relationship? Fight straw-man with straw-man? LOL! The only occasions a woman's sexual history matter to me are in the event she slept with someone she knows I know & didn't tell me & when a woman gives me some crap where she makes me wait for sex & I find out for a fact she gave it up faster for past boyfriends or had casual flings in the past & tells me she "needs a connection" before having sex. I won't stick around for women like that because they obviously can't be attracted to me all that much and have always turned out to be major attention whores & game players. 2
TheSingleGuy Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 (edited) This topic never seems to come up with me. If a chick won't sleep with me on the first date, I usually take that as a sign she's not that into me. One girl who slept with me on the first date, I later friend-zoned, more or less. The next guy had to wait months to get a piece. I think it all comes down to masculine face/ovulation, more rounded, feminine face/the rest of the time. Most women, when revealing their number, only reveal sexual encounters that happened in a relationship. These are the only ones that can't be lied about. The casual one night sex is conveniently forgotten. So if a chick says 5, that really means 5 ex-boyfriends or husbands. The rockstar's tour bus is left out of the count. One girl I pursued, told me about her friend who had daddy issues in college. Thus chick slept with like 30 guys in a year. No normal guy could ever do that. Women are the gate keepers, period. No getting around this reality. As for her sexual past, it's best not to discus this at all. You don't want to know that she's been f***ed by men she's only known for a few hours. I have a feeling most women have experimented with this kind of lose gate keeping. Think about it, if you were the gate keeper, out of town, wouldn't you want to experiment with that too? It happens, but if you love her, you don't want to know it. Edited June 10, 2012 by TheSingleGuy
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