ATrainofAngels Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Then why aren't there more beautiful women in the world? If men only want pretty women, then the world should have evolved to have many more prettier women today. But it hasn't. Depends on where you are. Go to a university in Sweden and you'll see a ton of pretty, thin and young women The issue is the overwhelming rampage of obesity in the United States nowadays. I see many very beautiful ladies who are just too overweight to appeal to most guys
udolipixie Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Trust me it is not easier. Women say they want a genuine connection but try to have one with them and many will run the other way to go for some guy who humps and dumps them. There is a huge gap between what women say they want and what they actually seem to go for. Your bit of women say this and many do that means a huge gap in what women say and go suggests to me there isn't a gap but you may think what one gal says applies for other gals (?). Such as some gals state they like sensitive guys and other gals rejects a guy for being sensitive it means a gap in what women say and do.
Author Disenchantedly Yours Posted June 11, 2012 Author Posted June 11, 2012 Its not about standards,most secure Men/ women realize a their partner can see an attractive women and notice as he or she passes by and yet still love and care for the person theyre with I don't disagree. But why would you expect your partner to feel *nothing* at all about them noticing someone else. I'm not saying you can't notice someone attractive and still love their partner. But nothing in life is a zero/sum game.
Author Disenchantedly Yours Posted June 11, 2012 Author Posted June 11, 2012 That's just because women are better looking than men in general. Sean Bean has a long history of dating plain women. Pierce Brosnan's wife is the size of a house. Clive Owen's isn't far behind. Sting's wife looks like she could fill in for the crypt keeper without much makeup. Does Barack Obama count as a hot guy? Those couples usually don't get much attention but it's shockingly common. Argggg Gauis! I couldn't disagree more. Women are better looking than men in general? I don't think so. It's just that social pressures on women to look a certain way is greater then that for men. And I don't think that's cool that you saod Bronsnan's wife is the size of a house. She isn't. This is the kind of crap I am talking about. Look at how you've described a few women. Quite degradingly because they do not fit into what you think should be a beautiful woman. And I think Obama and his wife are of equal looks personally. I am not sure why you think Obama is "hotter".
Author Disenchantedly Yours Posted June 11, 2012 Author Posted June 11, 2012 Depends on where you are. Go to a university in Sweden and you'll see a ton of pretty, thin and young women The issue is the overwhelming rampage of obesity in the United States nowadays. I see many very beautiful ladies who are just too overweight to appeal to most guys Between you and Gauis, you are highlighting just what I have been talking about. The over evaluation of women's looks compared to men's. Obesity in the U.S. is overwhelming but is a problem for women AND men. Not simply omen. And this is not a thread for you to talk about how you find women failing while you once again run around this board posting pictures of your "dream" girl. We aren't simply here to critique and put women down once-again. Thanks for highlighting exactly what I am talking about. It's okay for men to judge and compare and evaluate female beauty and no one calls you insecure or shallow. It's not okay for women to worry or think about how their own beauty plays a role in their love life. 1
xxoo Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 I don't disagree. But why would you expect your partner to feel *nothing* at all about them noticing someone else. I'm not saying you can't notice someone attractive and still love their partner. But nothing in life is a zero/sum game. I would hope my partner in secure enough in him/herself to know that other person is no threat. I didn't just notice my partner, but dated, fell in love, committed, and love them up daily. A twinge of jealousy from a notice is normal, but I'd expect my partner to be mature enough to keep it in perspective. I don't believe we have the power or responsibility to prevent our partner from ever feeling jealousy, especially when insecurity is a factor. But again, if this were a continual thing, and his attention were everywhere but on me, that would be different.
Els Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 I agree with you.. if it were the same person saying both things (egging men on to greater superficial heights while calling women who pay attention to them 'shallow'). There are people who do, and those people are most certainly hypocrites. But oftentimes the people who say A and the people who say B are different people. It's just that people tend to be most vocal when judging, and less vocal about things that they don't really feel strongly about. So there's a cacophony of voices coming from different people, and the ones you hear the loudest are the judgmental ones. That doesn't mean that it's the same person saying them; simply that different people have different viewpoints. I don't understand the 'you can never please anyone!' mentality. Two things wrong with it: 1) in actual fact it is 'you can never please EVERYone', and 2) you really should not be bothering to try. People will always have different opinions, and what matters is being confident in your own and not surrounding yourself with people who judge you negatively. 2
RedRobin Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Depends on where you are. Go to a university in Sweden and you'll see a ton of pretty, thin and young women The issue is the overwhelming rampage of obesity in the United States nowadays. I see many very beautiful ladies who are just too overweight to appeal to most guys Same goes for the guys. No need to go to a university in Sweden to check out the guys. Sign in on OkC as a woman and check out the competition in most Scandinavian countries. Won't find a fat guy guy among them. So, go ahead and go to Sweden. My guess is you won't measure up to the local competition if you are a typical overweight US guy.
Els Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Depends on where you are. Go to a university in Sweden and you'll see a ton of pretty, thin and young women The issue is the overwhelming rampage of obesity in the United States nowadays. I see many very beautiful ladies who are just too overweight to appeal to most guys Not been to the USA, but the last article I saw claimed that obese men outnumber women by about 10% there.
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Maybe I'm just "lucky" but I learned way back in my early teens - the hard way - that I was who I was, I looked how I looked, and it was up to me to "make it work." I consider myself an outlier and I don't play on the same field as "most men" and "most women." Threads such as these that talk about what "we" do - well, I don't feel that they apply to me. "I" don't do that stuff. And guess what. I have had a great life filled with many other people who don't do it either, and who view those who do as rather dull. I raised my daughter to believe that way too. My culture heaps a bunch of crappy stereotypical BS on women and men; also on children, on the meaning of "success," on the concepts of "happiness," "evil" and "Godliness" and all kinds of other things. I learned how to think for myself and I DO NOT buy into any of it. Or, to be more honest. I hold myself accountable to notice when I might be buying into some of it and I do something about it. Something within MYSELF. That's how we change society. We start with ourselves. If you hate how "we" view women so much, then stop buying into it yourself. Just say NO to that crap rather than trying to make everybody else conform to your POV. 2
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