El Brujo Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 I was talking to my friend (a music composer) about the novel I've been writing about a guy who adopts a cloned woman as a partner, and he thinks the whole partner-cloning concept is a great idea. He thinks human cloning should be legal, but I can see how a lot of people would have a bunch of moral hangups against it... there are a lot of guys who'd want their cloned partner to be a moron so they could boss her around and do all sorts of sick things to her. Personally though, I rather like the idea of being able to adopt a cloned woman who doesn't have the taints of materialism, narcissism, schadenfreude, or whining about wanting to have a kid, and enjoys many of the same activities I enjoy---making things out of metal and wood, writing, electronics, hiking, potlucks and costume parties... stuff like that.
Philosoraptor Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 So what we're really looking for is an opposite gendered version of ourselves? Unless you can remove the want to be an individual, as well as hiding them from the real world, your plan will fail. We all have our own interests and that's what makes us unique. Even clones will be unique outside of the physical.
Trimmer Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) So what we're really looking for is an opposite gendered version of ourselves?Hmmm - kind of the ultimate form of masturbation, eh? To the OP: from a realism perspective - what do you think "cloning" is? Such a human being would have to be gestated, born, and raised just like everyone else, so you are essentially hypothesizing raising a human being into slavery? Cloning is not a process of making a mindless duplicate of a human being in some kind of copy machine. Cloning is just the process of making a viably fertilized human egg (what do they call that, the "zygote" I think?) with specific DNA - everything else is exactly like you and me. So, if the feel and premise of your novel is supposed to have an overtly creepy tone (think the movie "The Island" if you've seen it...) then you're on track. But if you're thinking of starting with a "blank slate" adult partner, and you don't want that creepy "raised into sexual slavery" theme, you probably want to go in the direction of cyber-beings, robots, whatever. Edited June 1, 2012 by Trimmer 1
LittlePrince Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 I was talking to my friend (a music composer) about the novel I've been writing about a guy who adopts a cloned woman as a partner, and he thinks the whole partner-cloning concept is a great idea. He thinks human cloning should be legal, but I can see how a lot of people would have a bunch of moral hangups against it... there are a lot of guys who'd want their cloned partner to be a moron so they could boss her around and do all sorts of sick things to her. Personally though, I rather like the idea of being able to adopt a cloned woman who doesn't have the taints of materialism, narcissism, schadenfreude, or whining about wanting to have a kid, and enjoys many of the same activities I enjoy---making things out of metal and wood, writing, electronics, hiking, potlucks and costume parties... stuff like that. You'd get bored with you f*cking you.
somedude81 Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Sounds like a great idea as long as her interests and wanting to be with me can be influenced. So she wouldn't have 100% free will. The last thing I'd want is my femclone to be snapped up by another guy. So other than wanting nobody but me, she can be a completely normal person, with her own dreams and desires. But since she's my clone, they'd be pretty similar to my own anyways
Trimmer Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 I didn't take it that the OP (nor Philosoraptor) was talking about literally cloning oneself from one's DNA.... I think Philosoraptor was just commenting that since the OP imagined that his woman "clone" would have such similar interests as the OP (c'mon - electronics?), that she was essentially a version of him. ...although it makes for an interesting Sci-fi departure to consider a future in which you would literally clone yourself, with chromosome adjustments to switch gender, to create a life partner. But again, we get into icky, creepy territory pretty quickly...
udolipixie Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 I think a better alternative would be a human body without a brain rather a robotic processor. A clone to me is still a living human being and creating someone to be your property/partner seems like enslavement. I'm not seeing the clone's consent or mutual desire to be the other person's partner rather creating people be a sexual resource to be divided equally amongst others to dole out sex and relationships.
verhrzn Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Yeah, not a creepy or controlling or you-totally-make-lampshades-out-of-skin-esque idea at all. 3
FitChick Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Clones have to be born and grow up. You'd be dead by then.
sally4sara Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 In a world where most people don't see their own behavior or actions with clarity, I would love to see the stunned look on their face when the opposite gendered clone of themselves rejects them. 2
Disenchantedly Yours Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 How boring it would be to "clone" someone into whatever perfected view I think they should be! I want someone I can grow with, learn from, lean on, give support to, teach, challenge..and all those wonderful componants that come from...*cough* human interaction. By the way, Trimmer I was going to reference The Island too. That is a good movie.
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