kaylan Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Let's consider the largest sexual organ is the brain. That being said the only great sex can clearly come from a good mindf*ck. Nice people can't mindf*ck. You need an *sshole for that. ? riiiiiight
LittlePrince Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Yeah, but the fact is that people who are stable, successful, AND great lovers are hard to find. They are the best of the best, and everybody wants them. It's why I'm doing better with dating than I expected to, now that I'm back out there. For a guy all he really notices is if you are putting out or not when dating around.
kaylan Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 It REALLY IS all about and ONLY about the sex. There is no other container for this. NOTHING else makes any difference in this discussion, just sex. Why? Because that is ALL that is being gained from the bad boy. NO ONE says, "gee, I learned so much about myself" or "He brings me so much love and understand, or is so supportive..." Nope. Just getting banged. Hard, mindlessly, agressively.... something many women WANT, but some can't admit. You can't get empty, disconnected, physical sex from someone you are emotionally connected to. You can't get that insane lovin' from a stranger feeling from someone that is not a stranger to you. Your known partner CAN NOT be unknown to you. Unless maybe you doped up on a bunch of drugs or something. So, it is just the sex, there is no way around it, no way to recreate it. UNLESS you have a great, close relationship with your loved one and can sort of recreate that environment. Sort of. Yes, good guys can be GREAT in bed. But they can never be that crazy stranger buried in women's desired to just get madly F'd once in a while. Or more often than that. Lmao @ people assuming every "bad boy" is good in bed. Humans are COMPLEX and VARIABLE. What dont people get about that. You know what the problem is? Guys who do bad with women hate on dudes who do well with women and assume they are bad boys...and how would they know that? Also, women assume any guy who refuses to settle down with them, or gives them any sort of headache, must be a bad boy. Ever consider you just arent the girl for him or that maybe he knows himself well enough to know that hes not emotionally ready to settle down yet? Ive seen women label regular guys who are seemingly kool, as bad boys just because he wanted to smash but didnt want to date her exclusively. Come on now. 3
FitChick Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 It's nothing to do with being young or holding onto your youth. These women have low self-esteem and don't think they can get or deserve anyone better. I used to know someone like that.
LittlePrince Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 It's nothing to do with being young or holding onto your youth. These women have low self-esteem and don't think they can get or deserve anyone better. I used to know someone like that. All women suffer from low self-esteem whenever they do something wrong so they can be perpetual victims and never be accountable forever. What is the female equivalent for peter pan syndrome?
ThaWholigan Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 NOTE TO ALL MALE POSTERS WHO COMPLAIN / FRUSTRATED BY "BAD BOYS" OR WOMEN WHO DATE THEM You are not a "bad boy", cannot be a "bad boy" and never will be a "bad boy". It is pointless to worry about "bad boys" or the women who date them. These women for the foreseeable future (more than likely forever) are not going to ever want you. If they do, it's not in your best interest to be with them. If you are not a "bad boy" or a retired "bad boy" you either become... "Captain Fix A Ho" She (the "Fixer Upper") will leave you down the road. All she is doing is taking a timeout from the "bad boys", drama and chaos. She is only recharging her batteries, boosting her self-esteem, self-respect, etc. so she can either go back to pursuing "bad boys" or ending up with a retired "bad boy". or She settles You will never blow her hair back like a "bad boy" or retired "bad boy" can and more than likely... She ends up being the boss and wearing the pants in the relationship. _________________________________________________________________ Most of these women either grow out of this and want / end up with a retired "bad boy" (like myself, ninjapajamapants, kaylan, ThaWholigan, phineas, etc.) or they choose to settle with you (which you don't want). You will never be a "bad boy", you have little to no chance of getting one of these women and even if you did.... You can't "handle" them anyway. So stop worrying about "bad boys" or women that want them! Focus all your effort, energy and time on finding a "nice girl" instead. There are PLENTY of them out there! :lmao: I'm an autistic virgin. Bad boy, I am not . As for the bad boy/nice guy paradigm, it's too black and white and doesn't compensate for the massive shades of grey in between. Same with nice girls. The nicest, librarian girl could be the freakiest, baddest bitch of them all underneath it all . All in all, I agree with the sentiment though, but I'm not a bad boy, nor a retired one at that (I'm 23). 1
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 :lmao: I'm an autistic virgin. Bad boy, I am not . . Seriously, dude, what could be badder than an autistic virgin musician? Especially a smart, funny, insightful and handsome one? 1
ThaWholigan Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) Seriously, dude, what could be badder than an autistic virgin musician? Especially a smart, funny, insightful and handsome one? , I'm more than a bad boy, I'm a Wholigan I bet Matt Savage has more girls than he knows what to do with himself . EDIT: http://1.2.3.12/bmi/2.bp.blogspot.com/-li1lvw7T-oI/TyhwoBThkrI/AAAAAAAAG_I/_OtEkAJGSWU/s200/Matt+Savage+the+savant+syndrome.jpg He looks like an intellectual version of Justin Bieber. Autistic savants get all the girls . Edited June 1, 2012 by ThaWholigan
persevere Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 That's their problem. If they want to keep going for guys who have nothing going for them at least they save the decent guys the headaches of dealing with their drama. Men like this and the women who love them deserve each other. I never understood the appeal of men in prison. That just means they were dumb enough to get caught. I have a friend who is into an illegal business and he is a mild mannered man who on paper has a 100% clean record. What is so damn impressive about a guy who fails at life and even fails at crime? Reminds me of this very pretty young woman at work. She kept going on about her boyfriend "getting out" in a few weeks. I asked her what branch of the military he was in. She looked puzzled and said "Oh, no. He's in Hunstville (state prison)". I was stunned, so I asked what she liked about him. She went on to say he was "exciting", was pretty nice (except when he drinks, where he gets mean), but her parents didn't like him (duh). He was an "aspiring professional skate boarder" (at age 29) I asked her why she didn't go after some of the younger men that my company was then hiring (responsible, well paying career field). She said "Oh, these guys are boring". As far as bad boys being being better in bed? I wholeheartedly disagree. Their selfishness most likely makes it all for them. Sure, they 'may' be hung like a donkey, but would just roll over when done? I'm a "nice guy", with a quiet demeanor for the most part. I've been told by women they were shocked that my demeanor didn't match up in the bedroom. So, it's all subjective and a generality.
boytoy Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 In my experience, girls who want bad boys are themselves bad news, and it is best to walk away from them. The most common reason such girls "change," or switch to nice guys, is to exploit them. In other words, they weren't getting the stability, money, or security they needed from the bad boys, so they figure might as well latch onto a nice guy because they are both easy and reliable. They never actually have strong feelings for the nice guy, other than wanting to exploit them. Such women will be more likely to cheat on their "nice guy" with bad boys, more likely to divorce their nice guy and take his money for no good reason, and more likely to take advantage of their nice guy in day to day life. My advice is to walk away, at least after you bang them a few times...
Ruby Slippers Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 I asked her why she didn't go after some of the younger men that my company was then hiring (responsible, well paying career field). She said "Oh, these guys are boring". Most of the good-on-paper guys ARE boring. By and large, they lack a sense of wonder and fun. With my "bad boy" (though he doesn't really conform to that label), every stupid little thing can be fun. *I* am this way on my own, and I would like to be with someone who approaches the world in the same way. As far as bad boys being being better in bed? I wholeheartedly disagree. Their selfishness most likely makes it all for them. Gross generality. My guy is very generous in bed, without bowing down to me and depriving himself. I have never felt shortchanged in bed with him - far from it. The most attractive things to me about this kind of guy are that they have no shame about their desires, will talk openly about anything, and like to be challenged to blow you away. A big problem with nice guys is that they are often insecure and defensive when you try to spice things up or talk to them about what does it for you - and that is lame. I'm a "nice guy", with a quiet demeanor for the most part. I've been told by women they were shocked that my demeanor didn't match up in the bedroom. So, it's all subjective and a generality. Personally, I've never been with a "nice guy" who was great in bed. But it gives me hope to hear that you are out there.
wwwjd Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 [quote=Ruby Slippers;4036813 every stupid little thing can be fun. *I* am this way on my own, and I would like to be with someone who approaches the world in the same way. that is uphorically wonderful!
fortyninethousand322 Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 I was reading a thread here where a guy was going off on how women go for BAd Boys. I admit fully, I was there as well. I'd like to think now that I have reached the age I have (37) that I am free of the Bad Boy want, but I know plenty of gals older than me who still lust after them. When we are children, girls are disciplined more than boys are. We are expected to behave ourselves, boys are given more allowance to misbehave. Boys will be boys, as we like to say. As teenagers and adults, women go for the Bad Boy because we are really acting out our own wants and needs to be bad through them. They are more fun than a barrel of monkeys, they are tornados in the sack, but it gets old after he's constantly unemployed, going on drunken rages and calling for bail money. There are women out there who are Bad Girls at heart, but we're grown ups now. It takes most women until their mid twenties or even early thirties before we get over it and go for something not so dramatic. That being said, there is a gal I know who is in her forties who is just pathetic. All her life she has gone for Bad Boys, they are in and out of jail, going on drunken benders, and she not only enjoys it but loves supporting them too. There are several that she has been with, she let move into her house after knowing him for ONE WEEK. He never had a job, was a hs drop out, completely illiterate, and had a prison record. One day, insane as she is, she quit her job. She declared to all that she was going to start a punk band and was moving to California. In her thirties no less. Now she lives with her mom in another state, meets some guy online here or there, and supports him while he sits at home in front of the TV during the day and by night goes out and has a very good time which ends up with him getting arrested and her bailing him out. I have to think that this woman is trying to hold onto something. What she is trying to hold onto is her youth, in a very terrible way. She is very insecure, wants people to like her, and yet has some mental health issues that keep her from having good relationships with other people. Very sad. Different strokes for different folks. Nothing "pathetic" about that. Who cares that this woman wants a "bad boy". Either become a bad boy or don't date the women who want them. Problem solved. 1
veggirl Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Most of the good-on-paper guys ARE boring. By and large, they lack a sense of wonder and fun. With my "bad boy" (though he doesn't really conform to that label), every stupid little thing can be fun. *I* am this way on my own, and I would like to be with someone who approaches the world in the same way. Gross generality. My guy is very generous in bed, without bowing down to me and depriving himself. I have never felt shortchanged in bed with him - far from it. The most attractive things to me about this kind of guy are that they have no shame about their desires, will talk openly about anything, and like to be challenged to blow you away. A big problem with nice guys is that they are often insecure and defensive when you try to spice things up or talk to them about what does it for you - and that is lame. Personally, I've never been with a "nice guy" who was great in bed. But it gives me hope to hear that you are out there. Ruby, you complain about a "gross generality" while making one yourself -- that "most good on paper guys are boring." Your whole post is a gross generality. That nice guys are insecure, too. What claims to make! I have dated and know many women who have dated good on paper guys and not complained or thought that they are boring. Hell my BF is good on paper, great in bed, and decidedly NOT boring in any way. I mean is your guy a "bad boy" or not. You go on about how he encompasses all that stuff, exciting blah blah--a "bad boy"--then you say he doesn't conform to that label. So then what you are saying is that he is NOT a bad boy. And is good in bed. And exciting. And fun. So...how can you say nice guys aren't good in bed or exciting and all that? :confused::confused: Your entire post and example makes no sense.
fishtaco Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Whatever floats her boat. If that's what she likes, then that's what she likes. I don't see a problem. By default, most women like bad boys. Aside from the small percentage that that never liked bad boys, women usually have to "grow out of it". That's just how it is. Hey, I'm attracted to hot women. Not beautiful women, hot women. I had to learn the hard way that if you date them, they make your life miserable. That's just how the world works. No matter how much smack we talk about bad boys and hot chicks here on LS, they will still have plenty of options, because they are at the top of the attraction food chain. And if you have what it takes to climb to the top of that food chain, congratulations.
Woggle Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 What is so exciting about somebody that can't stay out of prison? They aren't around half the time plus if they have a record they might not be able to travel out of the country plus there is a chance a woman might get caught up in their crap? Somebody please explain what the appeal is? At least date somebody smart enough not to get caught.
LittlePrince Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 What is so exciting about somebody that can't stay out of prison? They aren't around half the time plus if they have a record they might not be able to travel out of the country plus there is a chance a woman might get caught up in their crap? Somebody please explain what the appeal is? At least date somebody smart enough not to get caught. Women prefer pining rather than being in a relationship.
LittlePrince Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 You prefer complaining about women rather than being in a relationship. I prefer holding people accountable. That you focused more on my comments about women than men just demonstrates your own bias. I don't care one way or another about relationships.
Ruby Slippers Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Somebody please explain what the appeal is? I think that bad boys and hot girls just learn very fast how to finesse the opposite sex and get what they want from them. They are seductive and make it seem like so much fun. Even if they are unreliable and inconsistent, when they are on, they are very on. They're like those AOL retention experts who masterfully get people to stay on and keep paying for flaky service. The reason I think it's a good thing that I waited till my 30s to get involved with anything close to a bad boy is that I'm a lot smarter than them now and can handle them. If I'd gotten mixed up with them in my 20s, when I was stupid and naive, I probably would have gotten burned. Now I see right through their crap and can just enjoy them for what they are.
LittlePrince Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Hot girls are pretty poor at seduction typically. They don't have the social intelligence for it due to their favored status.
Woggle Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Why would a person want their crap anyway? I have dealt with drama queens who were model material and it is just not worth it to me. What is the appeal of that kind of drama to people? Do they not know how to have fun and excitement without complete insanity? I agree that they are like sneaky sales people and I don't know about you but I hate dealing with those types. I do think it is funny though how my friend who appears mild mannered and somewhat nerdy is suddenly ten times more attractive to women once they find what he does for a living.
joystickd Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 There is a big difference from women's view about bad boys and a mens view of bad boys. Often women just want a nice man with some edge and not some criminal. There are a view fringe women that actually want the dangerous men. Men see bad boys as the dangerous type.
threebyfate Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 My husband's a bad, bad boy sometimes! Does that count? 1
threebyfate Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 You got a "good" one! I hope you discipline him... So does he.No doubt he gets his comeuppance!
Mme. Chaucer Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 For someone who doesn't care... you sure do post / complain a lot about women and who they date. No kidding. The little fellow may have broken a record with his number of posts in a single month. Almost all of them are interchangeable.
Recommended Posts