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is there any man that wouldn't cheat with a perfect girl ? perfect as in mainly physical , i mean if she came and said she wanted a fling or just hang around , no strings attached... is there any man that wouldn't want that?

 

im starting to think men care about looks more than anything in the world.

i mean a normal cute girl isnt just enough.

 

they always stare at nude women, porn.. so im wondering if any of them could date these girls or have a one night stand they would... what do you think?

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I wouldn't if that makes you feel any better. If I'm committed to someone then I'm committed and it doesn't matter what life tries to seduce me with.

 

Fantasy does not equal reality.

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I wouldn't if that makes you feel any better. If I'm committed to someone then I'm committed and it doesn't matter what life tries to seduce me with.

 

Fantasy does not equal reality.

 

yes it helps.thanks.even if you're the only one.

 

but if they died to experience that, and they just didn't do it... its still isnt good news.

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If someone wanted it they would do it. They might have wanted it if they were single but wouldn't want to risk the relationship. They might think "well I could have done xyz" but in the end they made their own choice to be faithful and chose their partner over this seductress.

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If someone wanted it they would do it. They might have wanted it if they were single but wouldn't want to risk the relationship. They might think "well I could have done xyz" but in the end they made their own choice to be faithful and chose their partner over this seductress.

 

also what do u think about this:Do All Men Cheat? | Story | Glo

 

it makes me hate life.

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I don't commit or stay with women who aren't fulfilling my every sexual desire.

Therefore if i'm with someone I really don't have the desire to cheat on them.

 

If I did then obviously something is lacking & it may be time to move on before sleeping with someone else.

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men cheat with less attractive women too.

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also what do u think about this:Do All Men Cheat? | Story | Glo

 

it makes me hate life.

I think it's quite ridiculous. I know a ton of guys who would never consider cheating. It all comes down to finding someone mature with morals that are similar to your own.

 

I'd suggest you not take your advice from random articles as they are written to entice a strong reaction from people. Just be patient and let life happen.

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I always thought no. But now that I am jaded and unhappy in my relationship, then yeah sure if a perfectly hot girl came along I'd go for it. There's a really hot friendly one in my office at the moment actually...

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girls say all guys cheat

Which is why you need to find a man or woman, not a guy or girl. Date a mature adult and you won't have these issues.

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Which is why you need to find a man or woman, not a guy or girl. Date a mature adult and you won't have these issues.

 

you always have the best answers.

and in my experience being mature doesnt have anything to do with age. they may be even old but still immature.

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girls say all guys cheat

 

Not this guy. Never have. I had several opportunities while I was with my ex wife to cheat. I didn't.

 

Unfortunately I can't say the same about the lying cheating whore I was married to though. Which is why she is now the ex wife

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Not all guys would cheat. In my last relationship, my ex-gf had to point out the attractive women passing by since I did not even notice them. It really depends on the quality of man you get yourself involved with.

 

Some men and women are mature enough at 18, some are still child like immature at 58. That is why you need to get to know people (their character in particular) before you make major commitments to them.

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...so im wondering if any of them could date these girls or have a one night stand they would... what do you think?

 

I want to point something out... You state your question as if the measure of how likely a man is to cheat depends on how attractive an available Other Woman is... You propose a "perfect" woman, as if that makes a difference.

 

This might be the kind of stuff people talk about in fantasy terms - "hey dude, what if you had a chance to get with Jennifer Aniston?" - but in reality, I would suggest that whether or not a man cheats is mostly a function of the man's character, and less a function of whether you parade a particularly hot imaginary woman in front of him.

 

To answer your question directly: no, in 17 total years together (13 of them married, including 2 kids) I was never even inclined to cheat on my wife. I did have at least one obvious opportunity, and it wouldn't have made any difference if she had been more "perfect" than she was, it just wasn't in my character to go that direction.

 

FYI, she cheated on me once earlier in our marriage, and then 10 years later, started a relationship with another man, before she let me know she was leaving our marriage, so if anything, I have an opposing view from yours of the likelihood of men vs women cheating on each other. Setting aside my own emotional upset, objectively, men and women both screw each other over in relationships in dissapointingly high proportions. But as emotionally devastating as that is to experience, I understand that it doesn't mean that "all men" or "all women" do it.

 

I also think that if you think "all" men would cheat, and when one comes along and answers that he wouldn't, and you respond with "thanks, even if you're the only one..." it seems that you have already established a really extreme view of this. I half expected you to ask "if the perfect woman came along would you cheat?" and then, using circular logic, define the perfect woman as "A woman every man would cheat with..."

 

What has happened to you that has give you such a jaded view of the possibilities in a relationship? Are you just reading lots of stuff that has bummed you out, or have you been through a particular hurt in a relationship?

 

is there any man that wouldn't cheat with a perfect girl ? perfect as in mainly physical , i mean if she came and said she wanted a fling or just hang around , no strings attached... is there any man that wouldn't want that?

I also want to point out a dichotomy in your questions... Are you asking if a man would cheat (the behavior) or if he would "want that" (arguably a feeling.) Both are fair questions, and both are absolutely valid points of discussion, but they are not the same question.

 

For example, in the one instance I mentioned while I was married where I arguably had an opportunity to cheat (I was on travel far from home, in a town where nobody knew me, and a rental car agent suggested I should invite her for drinks...) I certainly found her attractive, and it was a huge ego boost for me to think someone was attracted to me. So you could twist the situation and argue that I "wanted that" from a purely lustful point of view, but from a behavioral point of view, I didn't even play with those matches - I didn't take the opportunity to have drinks and rationalize that I "wasn't really doing anything" or any of those excuses cheating men use. I just said "no thanks..." and moved on.

 

Is your real issue that you are upset that men are sometimes admittedly attracted to other women, even when they are in a relationship, and you are amplifiying that into an assumption that therefore they would "all" cheat? Can you get into a little more detail about what your core issue is here?

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I rather date normal cute girls! From what you discribed. The perfect girl is a supermodel type? Doesn't hold my interest because they come with FAR TOO MUCH BAGGAGE!! Especially if they're hot and they KNOW that they're hot. It would be a damned nightmare.

 

I saw one of those motivational poster gag things on the net and it was titled reality check. It showed one supermodel "perfect" girl in a tiny bikini. Banging body, bedroom eyes, tanned and flawless skin. The caption said, "Reality check. Somewhere on this planet, there's a guy that is sick and tired of her BS."

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I want to point something out... You state your question as if the measure of how likely a man is to cheat depends on how attractive an available Other Woman is... You propose a "perfect" woman, as if that makes a difference.

 

This might be the kind of stuff people talk about in fantasy terms - "hey dude, what if you had a chance to get with Jennifer Aniston?" - but in reality, I would suggest that whether or not a man cheats is mostly a function of the man's character, and less a function of whether you parade a particularly hot imaginary woman in front of him.

 

To answer your question directly: no, in 17 total years together (13 of them married, including 2 kids) I was never even inclined to cheat on my wife. I did have at least one obvious opportunity, and it wouldn't have made any difference if she had been more "perfect" than she was, it just wasn't in my character to go that direction.

 

FYI, she cheated on me once earlier in our marriage, and then 10 years later, started a relationship with another man, before she let me know she was leaving our marriage, so if anything, I have an opposing view from yours of the likelihood of men vs women cheating on each other. Setting aside my own emotional upset, objectively, men and women both screw each other over in relationships in dissapointingly high proportions. But as emotionally devastating as that is to experience, I understand that it doesn't mean that "all men" or "all women" do it.

 

I also think that if you think "all" men would cheat, and when one comes along and answers that he wouldn't, and you respond with "thanks, even if you're the only one..." it seems that you have already established a really extreme view of this. I half expected you to ask "if the perfect woman came along would you cheat?" and then, using circular logic, define the perfect woman as "A woman every man would cheat with..."

 

What has happened to you that has give you such a jaded view of the possibilities in a relationship? Are you just reading lots of stuff that has bummed you out, or have you been through a particular hurt in a relationship?

 

 

I also want to point out a dichotomy in your questions... Are you asking if a man would cheat (the behavior) or if he would "want that" (arguably a feeling.) Both are fair questions, and both are absolutely valid points of discussion, but they are not the same question.

 

For example, in the one instance I mentioned while I was married where I arguably had an opportunity to cheat (I was on travel far from home, in a town where nobody knew me, and a rental car agent suggested I should invite her for drinks...) I certainly found her attractive, and it was a huge ego boost for me to think someone was attracted to me. So you could twist the situation and argue that I "wanted that" from a purely lustful point of view, but from a behavioral point of view, I didn't even play with those matches - I didn't take the opportunity to have drinks and rationalize that I "wasn't really doing anything" or any of those excuses cheating men use. I just said "no thanks..." and moved on.

 

Is your real issue that you are upset that men are sometimes admittedly attracted to other women, even when they are in a relationship, and you are amplifiying that into an assumption that therefore they would "all" cheat? Can you get into a little more detail about what your core issue is here?

 

 

well yes i have been hurt. not just by reading alot of stuff.i dated someone with that characteristic.

 

and im asking both if he wants or actually do the cheating.

 

but any guy i was with both dating and nonromantic , said they fantasize beautiful women and saying no to one is hard thing to do , and probably many would cheat.

 

and they all said all men look at nude pics and porn . which if im dating that person makes me think he doesnt like how i look and therefore he's checking them out and if someone like that comes along they will leave me. which some of my male friends confessed they would do, even for a one night stand.

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is there any man that wouldn't cheat with a perfect girl ? perfect as in mainly physical , i mean if she came and said she wanted a fling or just hang around , no strings attached... is there any man that wouldn't want that?

I think all normal men would be tempted, but there are some who would realize they have a great thing going already and take a pass.

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but any guy i was with both dating and nonromantic , said they fantasize beautiful women and saying no to one is hard thing to do , and probably many would cheat.

I'm not going to try to convince you that all guys are pefect and nobody would ever leave you. But I'm not going to encourage your impression that every guy would just leave you if a sufficiently good-looking woman came along. That's just as absurd as proposing that all guys are perfect. And I'm concerned, by your "you must be the only one" comment that you fall more into the "all guys would leave" category.

 

I guess I can only offer my own experience that I described. I had the chance, nothing tying me down, virtually no way of being discovered, and I was impressed and ego-boosted by it. I may have even thought "wow, if I weren't married, this would be cool" (so I suppose you might count that as "I wanted to".) But when it happened, I said "no thanks" immediately and by reflex. It wasn't a 'hard thing to do'; it was automatic and obvious. Maybe you'll think I'm the only one, too, and I don't know that I could convince you otherwise.

 

...if someone like that comes along they will leave me. which some of my male friends confessed they would do, even for a one night stand.

We more mature men call those kinds of guys "douchebags" and other colorful names. That's not everyone.

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I don't really know what 'perfection' is in the human sense but I can state that I have, both as a single and married man, declined the sexual approaches of women who were otherwise committed (married or LTR) and/or when I was M. It wasn't easy, to be sure. Some were pretty awesome, in more than just the physical department. That said, I have had relations with a few that I would come many years later to understand were EA's (emotional affairs) so am exceedingly watchful of that dynamic today. What I see often is that 'perfect' women often have people (men) chasing their 'perfection' and giving little play to their humanity and they gravitate towards men like myself. If they were single, that would be OK :) As it is, I just have something they want. Who I am is relatively unimportant, or so it has historically been shown as self-evident. One anecdote.

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when I was engaged at 26, my fiance died because his pancreas ruptured. what I found after he died about killed ME because I found emails upon emails in his gmail about cheating, hotel keys he stashed for sentimental value, and this girl named Amanda kept asking if she could come over and look through his stuff something of hers...

 

It was pretty intense.

 

Anyway, for my next relationship, I chose someone that I didn't think anyone but me would want and never worried about him cheating one time. Even if a super hot chick came along, he'd never have had a chance with her.

 

After that relationship ended, I realized that I had never dealt with the feelings of insecurity and pain caused by my ex fiance and the guy I dated after that was put through quite a bit due to my insecurity. I was TERRIFIED he'd cheat on me. It kept me up at night. I made him let me check his phone, his emails, his facebook... finally he couldn't take it and he broke up with me because I was such a mess.

 

I realized that while he was never a dude I would have married, I forced the premature, bad end of that relationship because I was grasping so tightly onto my fears of cheating. sometimes, we make our own reality.

 

I'm married now, and I still have cheater fears regarding my husband. I don't *think* he'd ever do it, but you never really know. You have to change how you perceive the relationship and work on your own confidance and replace those really negative thoughts with thoughts of things you enjoy doing...it's almost like you have to take up a hobby to extinguish the fears...

 

Everytime I thought of cheating, I picked up a cigg. Yes, I know, very unhealthy, but it redirected my brain and kind of got me off of that thought path.

 

May not work for everyone, but it helped me when I needed it.

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The thing is you never know what someone else would do.

 

You may find a guy who doesn't like porn, who doesn't look at other women, and who swears he'd never cheat.

 

But then, he ends up falling in love with some girl at his work.

 

You never know. And you can't prevent it (other than weeding out the obvious players or guys who have very different values than you).

 

So what CAN you do?

 

You can be strong. You can be confident in your own worth. You can accept that bad things will happen to you in life, and know that you will deal with them when they happen and you'll be ok afterward.

 

You can stand up for yourself when you are wronged. You can refuse to accept less than what you really want. You can kick a cheater to the curb and move on hoping to find a good man.

 

What you SHOULDN'T do is worry about future "what ifs" that haven't happened. Or try to control a man thinking you'll prevent him from cheating. Or view porn as a threat to anything you can provide a man in real life.

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I also would never even think of cheating. When I am in a relationship - my mindset is that I am fully comitted. If "the perfect woman" would walk up to me, my mind would immediately say 'hold on there buddy, you have an SO' and I would make it a point to actively NOT flirt....not because I am worried about getting caught, but because I would never disrespect my SO that way or even run the risk of compromising my values. The farther one lets flirting go, I would think the probability rises in cheating happening - so I just premeptively say NO from the get-go.

 

I never got the point of cheating. If you're happy, why seek out something else. If youre unhappy, be a man and break up, THEN go seek what you are looking for. But then again, I've been on the flip side of the coin...so apparently we are the minority:o

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The thing is you never know what someone else would do.

 

You may find a guy who doesn't like porn, who doesn't look at other women, and who swears he'd never cheat.

 

But then, he ends up falling in love with some girl at his work.

 

You never know. And you can't prevent it (other than weeding out the obvious players or guys who have very different values than you).

 

So what CAN you do?

 

You can be strong. You can be confident in your own worth. You can accept that bad things will happen to you in life, and know that you will deal with them when they happen and you'll be ok afterward.

 

You can stand up for yourself when you are wronged. You can refuse to accept less than what you really want. You can kick a cheater to the curb and move on hoping to find a good man.

 

What you SHOULDN'T do is worry about future "what ifs" that haven't happened. Or try to control a man thinking you'll prevent him from cheating. Or view porn as a threat to anything you can provide a man in real life.

 

but risking seems like a hard thing now. i used to be stronger but now i just don't want to risk anything.

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You are still hurting because of the past. If you don't want to risk anything, don't fall in love. Focus then on getting your life in order, making new friendships, and not complicate matters by getting involved with men just yet. Time heals a lot of wounds.

 

Seeing that that is quite a drastic step, the alternative is to use your time to get to know a man better, before you commit to him. The right man will understand and not push you into anything you are not comfortable with.

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Well, if you don't want to risk anything, then you're definitely not stable enough to date. You risk your life every time you get in a car to drive to work.

 

It's ok to take time to heal and maybe get some counseling before you jump into the shark infested waters of the dating pool.

 

Dating should be fun. If the thought of it causes you dread, then focus on other things. Get a hobby or join a summer sports team like soft ball or kick ball or train for a marathon or something.

 

Do something to make yourself healthy and make some new friends. This isn't any way to start a summer. :-)

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