Women, question about a particular physical "flaw" on a guy.

[kaylan]

And DY please stay out of my thread if you are going to turn it into pages of arguing about how bad and shallow men only seem to be. As if women arent judge mental too. We dont need that or you raging on the porn topic since you already mentioned it.

[Pierre]

Probably everyone has some stretch marks. I wouldn't worry about them and those who do care aren't people you'd want to be around too long.

 

Excess vanity is unattractive.

 

I am of normal weight at 6'3'', 190 lbs and over age 40. I have no idea if I have stretch marks because i don't look for them and I have never looked at my rear end with a mirror as OP does. That is ultimate vanity!!!!!!

 

And people wonder why these folks have to use OLD to date.

[stillafool]

Kaylan I didn't read the rest of this thread but there is nothing wrong with a few stretch marks on your legs or arms. I do think stretch marks look better on darker skin. As a matter of fact I see them and then never see them again. Women care more about the shape of your body.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Dude...its a freaking milf fantasy. ONE segment of women. I wasnt talking about all women, so please just quit with this whining.

 

So you only have to be hot when you're a Milf? All other women get a free pass Kaylan?

 

Again, do you EVER read my posts on this forum. All the women here know I want more in a girl than just hotness. However, when it comes to just casual fun with an older woman, which is a fantasy of mine, obviously hotness matters the most.

 

This is the difference between you and me. I don't think it's okay to use other people for their "hotness" even causually. This is the disconnect. I do not apply a different set of rules to different people depending on what I want from them. I try to treat everyone with respect and not use them based on my own personal fantasies or whims.

 

 

So now Im not allowed to have a fantasy without you going on, yet again, another insecure rant about men's view of women?! COME ON NOW. Just stop.

 

No. You come on. You are a lot smarter then this. Most of the time you are a pretty smart guy then every once in awhile you come up with these posts that are just ridiculous. I don't get it.

 

 

Did you NOT see where I said my ex had butt stretch marks that I loved and thought were cute?

 

Yes. But you were also negative about it at first too right?

 

Just because some women come in THIS thread talking about imperfections not mattering, does not mean that other women out on this forum, or in the real world, arent bothered by them.

 

Then why ask the forum's opinion Kaylan?

 

Btw, last I checked this thread was about a guy having flaws...and now your turning it into how women are being attacked again. Both genders deal with it!

 

Umm, you totally were the one to bring up the flaws your male friends and yourself talk about regarding women.

 

 

LOVE SHACK IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GENERAL POPULATION.

 

You don't need to use just Loveshack. However my comments stand here. You see more threads tearing down women then men around here. All you have to look at is media populated by men and the kind of women that are upheld as beautiful. All you have to do is look at modern movies and see how many older men are paired with much younger women. You even talked about how women have it tougher regarding agism. Men do not have to have anal bleaching, painful bikinini waxes, botox, hair coloring, implants and a host of other "beauty improvements" that in today's society is normal for women to do to adhere to the type of beauty ideals men want.

 

Just because YOU dont experience women being snarky about guys doesnt mean they arent. PLENTY are.

 

I certainly think those women exists. I do not think that women pick apart men physically nearly as much as men do.

 

And here were have it. Proof that again, all your rants have to do with your own insecurities projected onto others.

 

No. My "rant" had a lot of merit and talked about a lot of truths you don't want to explore and really just want to degrade down to just being "my insecurities". That's on you. Not me. Wrapping up m ycomments to something so belittling is on you. Not me.

[xxoo]

Im sorry. But welcome to the real world. People talk to their friends about sex and are honest about it. So now people shouldnt share their feelings and experiences about sex?

 

Its not disrespectful to share info so long as you are not dissing someone.

 

You might find this is less common as you and your peers get older, and your relationships more serious.

 

Or not

[ariadne999]

So you only have to be hot when you're a Milf? All other women get a free pass Kaylan?

 

 

 

please STFU. you do not speak for all women. Also you're psycho.

 

you're as bad as the bitter angy virgin trolls. Worse actually cos you're posts are so long and you seem slightly intelligent.

 

 

but seriously, I am a unattractive girl, chubby and plain. and Ive found plenty of guys who are fine with that. And that aren't models them selves.

 

 

In fact with my last bf we'd people watch in public. "oh she's hot. Oh look at him"

 

and oogle all the pretty people then go home and **** like bunnies and dig each other flaws and all.

 

crazy how that works huh?

 

fantasy can be fun and shared with your love.

 

lighten up. get therapy.

[Pierre]

Ewww...skinny jeans with a big butt...that just can't look that great...

 

Let me rephrase: Ewww...skinny jeans on a guy...that just can't look that great...

 

 

Vanity can be perverse:laugh:.

[Mme. Chaucer]

Huh? What was so bitter about that post Dusk? My advice was sound. When Kaylan hears people ripping into others, he can start to change the way they think by being different then that and making gentle comments to the contrary of how they are talking about others.

 

I must have missed the part where Kaylan said he was seeking advice on changing other people.

 

Off topic!

 

I agree with Pierre; I find excess vanity and other forms of being obsessed with the way one looks to be unattractive. And, personally, in all my life (even in my callow youth), I would never have cared about whether a guy had stretch marks.

[kaylan]

So you only have to be hot when you're a Milf? All other women get a free pass Kaylan?

My point was that women of FANTASY are supposed to be hot. Im not trying to have 1 on 1 relationships with older women outside of a sexual nature. I couldnt date them because of the age gap and us being in different stages of life. Obviously other things factor into what I want in a woman provided shes in my dating bracket. Do cry sum moar tho.

 

This is the difference between you and me. I don't think it's okay to use other people for their "hotness" even causually. This is the disconnect. I do not apply a different set of rules to different people depending on what I want from them. I try to treat everyone with respect and not use them based on my own personal fantasies or whims.

PEOPLE USE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.

 

Actually, its not using if both people have an understanding of what needs they both want met. If two people are into each other for just a casual fling....then so be it. Whats the freakin' issue here?

 

If a girl is a fling type chick in my life, then shell get different treatment than the girl I want a relationship with. MANY people do this. As long as Im open and honest about what I want, and they do the same, then theres no problem.

 

No. You come on. You are a lot smarter then this. Most of the time you are a pretty smart guy then every once in awhile you come up with these posts that are just ridiculous. I don't get it.

Wtf are you talking about? You are insecurely demonizing me for having fantasies. You are no better than the men who tried to stifle female sexuality during the sexual revolution. Screw this...Im a sexually healthy and highly sexual adult male. I have fantasies and enjoy them. Plenty of women do as well. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Yes. But you were also negative about it at first too right?

I was a bit off put by them at first, but whats the big deal? It didnt stop me from wanting her. It didnt make me not want to get sexual with her. It was something new to adjust to. Should I lie about that to stroke egos? No. Some things dont normally float peoples boats, and some folks will adapt to it or figure they cant deal with it.

 

Some girls dont like acne or acne scars. I have acne scars from when I was a teenager. Am I gonna demonize a girl for being putt off by mine even though they arent bad? No...its her choice. The difference between me and you is that I embrace my flaws and see them as cute quirks. I dont get so insecure about them. And if someone doesnt like something about me, I just think about the stuff I know for a fact makes me sexy and run with that.

 

But then again, whenever people on this forum actually show confidence in their sex appeal, haters come out the woodwork and condemn them. People would rather hear a sad sack mope about flaws.

Then why ask the forum's opinion Kaylan?

ITS CALLED MAKING CONVERSATION!

 

Umm, you totally were the one to bring up the flaws your male friends and yourself talk about regarding women.

Um yeah...but its not going to be the running theme in my thread. It was a passing comment about a factual event and now youre being all insecure.

You don't need to use just Loveshack. However my comments stand here. You see more threads tearing down women then men around here. All you have to look at is media populated by men and the kind of women that are upheld as beautiful. All you have to do is look at modern movies and see how many older men are paired with much younger women. You even talked about how women have it tougher regarding agism. Men do not have to have anal bleaching, painful bikinini waxes, botox, hair coloring, implants and a host of other "beauty improvements" that in today's society is normal for women to do to adhere to the type of beauty ideals men want.

Again, more threads on one website about a topic doesnt mean jack squat about what happens in real life. I think most of us know that typically guys post online more when they want to talk about females since they dont have the same support network as women.

 

And just because men arent brainwashed into thinking they need certain procedures does not mean women arent shallow at all or dont care about physical things. Stop pretending women dont act just as bad about looks these days. All my times in the bar, club, or talking with numerous female friends proves otherwise.

 

I certainly think those women exists. I do not think that women pick apart men physically nearly as much as men do.

Whatever you say. Just because some women arent brave enough to say it, doesnt mean there arent plenty of women who admit to caring a lot about physical things. Height and hair being big ones many women I know care about. Guys get written off easily in regards to those things. So lets be real.

No. My "rant" had a lot of merit and talked about a lot of truths you don't want to explore and really just want to degrade down to just being "my insecurities". That's on you. Not me. Wrapping up m ycomments to something so belittling is on you. Not me.

I think the point is that most posters are sick of "exploring" the "truths" you incessantly complain about all the same. And its always one sided and from one perspective. Its always about how shallow and bad men are. Rewind, and press play....thats all it is.

 

It is your insecurities. How do I know? Because if you were confident, int he way I am...you wouldnt need to always go on and on about these things. I could easily whine about not being 6 ft tall, or about some girls not wanting to date black guys, or whine about how Im only middle class and not rich...or how I have average looks. But I dont complain...I play up and take pride in my highlighted attributes.

 

Maybe you should do that more.

[MrNate 2.0]

Ah good ole stretch marks.

 

I have a ton of them. And they're not some faint ones either. Most are pretty thick and aren't going anywhere haha.

 

My body has been through a lot of physical abuse, weight loss, weight gain, muscle gain, etc. It's also pretty scarred up, ha. It's kind of cool in a way though, like it tells a story.

 

Regardless, I don't mind at all. If someone has issues with my body, I'm sure I can find just as many issues on theirs. So, knowing this, it makes it harder for me to be concerned about what others think.

 

Don't worry about it too much, bud.

[Els]

Wait, why is everyone debating with Kaylan about his friend's comments? I agree that it's a slightly offensive way to describe a woman's body, but his friend did it, not him. And even then, if a guy has issue with stretch marks on a woman but also focuses on being the best-looking person he can be himself, I don't see anything wrong with it. Not my cup of tea personally, I agree with Mme Chaucer that I find excessive care about appearance unattractive, both in oneself and one's requirements for a partner. But they aren't being hypocritical, they're entitled to their own preferences, and they're not complaining about potentially being rejected by women. Sounds fine to me.

[mesmerized]

DY, you're way too sensitive. You have to grow a thicker skin if you want to survive in this world. You act as if all women are mother theresa like and all men are charlie sheens. It's just simply not true. Also, just because you don't have any physical standard for a mate, doesn't mean everybody should be like you.

[William]

My control panel has exploded from all the potential off-topic and personal insult infractions. Never thought a thread on a stretch mark on a man could be such a magnet for guideline violations. Live and learn.