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Hmmm really? Ive found that they blend away well on darker women. Lighter women have them more visible from what ive seen since the marks ive seen tend to contrast their light skin. Then again maybe it just all depends on the person on how their marks will pigment

 

yeah, stretch marks tends to be white/light so on a darker girl it tends to show much more. When stretch marks first start to form, they are reddish/darker and that is when it looks bad on light women and OK on dark women. Once they fade out, they start to show less if you have light skin tone.

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i stole an american flag from a miltary base. i cut it in half and burned half. i spit on the other half and ripped it to shreds

 

i ate burnt pieces of the flag

Were you making festive tacos for Memorial Day?

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Your signature is bitterly ironic DY. You have an incredible capacity to patronise everyone.

 

Huh? What was so bitter about that post Dusk? My advice was sound. When Kaylan hears people ripping into others, he can start to change the way they think by being different then that and making gentle comments to the contrary of how they are talking about others. For you to find that kind of advice bitter or patronising makes no sense to me.

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Yeah I have read similar reports, and honestly I find it hysterical when they do the body fat percentage things and look at me and always say I'm over the normal and I look back and just say boobs are made of fat, I have larger than normal boobs, duh! Then they find out everywhere else is mainly muscle, thoughmy thighs look bigger, they are all muscle from being a competitive equestrian,we hold our selves up with our thighs and calves so they better be all muscle!

 

Yes, body fat percentages aren't always a great indicator of someone's health. And like you said, some people have more dense muscle skeltons then others. I don't have natural muslce tone myself. I really have to work at it. But I know people that naturally just have muscle.

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The only guy I know whos been with a woman that age is my ex drummer. And it wasnt his bag of tea cus he said "her skin was all stretchy and stuff...never again".

 

It kinda ruined my milf fantasies for a little while, but then I figured her might just not got a hot one =P. But Im hoping he knew that skin loses its elasticity with age if one doesnt work out or anything. He didnt really mention her skills or anything though.

 

You get what you give Kaylan. You started a thread about being worried about a "particular phyiscal flaw on a guy". Now you're talking about how your milf fantasies where ruined because a woman is only as good to you for how hot she is. Maybe women should be more critical of stretch marks. (Even though we aren't.) Then at least we would be judging men as harshly as they judge us. You're so worried about your body and how your going to be judged but you are judging women. Not cool.

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People said I looked like I'd been clawed by an animal that I looked lke I'd been in an accident that I had breast implants ect. Or people stare and ask what happened with sympathy on their face. From a ton of people girls, guys, older and younger

 

Geez, people suck. But it made me realize that no matter your body type, it seems that people are putting you down for something.

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You get what you give Kaylan. You started a thread about being worried about a "particular phyiscal flaw on a guy". Now you're talking about how your milf fantasies where ruined because a woman is only as good to you for how hot she is. Maybe women should be more critical of stretch marks. (Even though we aren't.) Then at least we would be judging men as harshly as they judge us. You're so worried about your body and how your going to be judged but you are judging women. Not cool.

 

He is 25 and he is talking here like he is talking to his buddies. When guys are in their early twenties, that's how they talk about women they hooked up with or any woman for that matter!!

 

That being said,we might talk about men in that way too, you've never had a woman complain about a small penis or a guy's bad sexual performance?

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He is 25 and he is talking here like he is talking to his buddies. When guys are in their early twenties, that's how they talk about women they hooked up with or any woman for that matter!!

 

That being said,we might talk about men in that way too, you've never had a woman complain about a small penis or a guy's bad sexual performance?

True, I don't think I could ever repeat here the conversations that my friends have about girls. Sometimes I let them know they are harsh, but they just shrug it off because I'm the "good" one :laugh:.

 

Girls are just as bad, I had one girl tell me I was so ugly I "needed to be taxed to leave my house" :lmao:. It's a funny story now, but at the time it wasn't so hilarious :laugh:.

 

I think the ignorance of youth is such that when congregated together, they can behave or talk in a certain way that is largely free of inhibitions and that can certainly overlap into a tendency to be rather rude and insolent about others. I learned this early from being in a boys school - they will josh each other most of the time, if you can't hack it you won't last too long in life!

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I don't think stretch marks are bad. Many people have them. I have mine on my hips from a growth spurt and I call them my tiger stripes. Guys love that. ;)

 

Seriously, if you act like they're nothing, people won't care. If you love them, people will admire your confidence and likely even the marks themselves. If you b*tch about them, people will see nothing but bad.

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You get what you give Kaylan. You started a thread about being worried about a "particular phyiscal flaw on a guy". Now you're talking about how your milf fantasies where ruined because a woman is only as good to you for how hot she is. Maybe women should be more critical of stretch marks. (Even though we aren't.) Then at least we would be judging men as harshly as they judge us. You're so worried about your body and how your going to be judged but you are judging women. Not cool.

Wow you are so reaching here. First I was never worried about a flaw. I said that straight up. I simply asked if women can be as snarky as guys about it. My "flaw" isnt even visible unless I get under bright light and point it out to someone. So no biggie for me.

 

Two, where did I say a woman is only as good if she is hot? I said my milf fantasies were alter for a little while. Milfs dont encompass all women, and most of us know relationships between younger men and older women are generally sexual in nature...so why wouldnt hotness matter? Plus I was talking about a FANTASY...and fantasies of such a nature are regarding sex and hotness. No where did I imply that all women were only as good as their hotness. Youve seen enough of my posts to know I dont think that way so dont even try it.

 

If a woman wants to be critical of my stretch marks, then let her...lets see if she can find them first lol. I also asked this question because my best friend is self conscious about his. He has his from weight gain a few years back. He dropped the weight but it left contrasting scars that are pretty visible. So hed be dealing with this issue way more than me.

 

At the end of the day men and women judge each others bodies. And women do it as much as dudes even though some folks like to pretend it doesnt happen. We are all visual here.

I don't think stretch marks are bad. Many people have them. I have mine on my hips from a growth spurt and I call them my tiger stripes. Guys love that. ;)

 

Seriously, if you act like they're nothing, people won't care. If you love them, people will admire your confidence and likely even the marks themselves. If you b*tch about them, people will see nothing but bad.

Oh wow...I read that first part and thought "hot". I think it was because it had the right mix of confidence mixed with the clever "tiger stripes" label that fits your username. But yeah....hot...lolz. You totally have me fantasizing about my ex now. I really did love her butt and cute stretch marks haha.

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At the end of the day men and women judge each others bodies. And women do it as much as dudes even though some folks like to pretend it doesnt happen. We are all visual here.

 

Except that some of us (some people, some women) really don't, and didn't even when we were 25. If I'm into a person, I'm into them. Marks, wrinkles, moles, scars, hair patterns, etc, just add to how I'm into "him".

 

If those very superficial things turn me off, I'm probably not that into him in general.

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He is 25 and he is talking here like he is talking to his buddies. When guys are in their early twenties, that's how they talk about women they hooked up with or any woman for that matter!!

 

That being said,we might talk about men in that way too, you've never had a woman complain about a small penis or a guy's bad sexual performance?

 

When did 25 become the new 16?

 

I don't care if that's how guys talk about women. It shouldn't be how they talk about women. There are 25 year old guys that don't talk about women like that.

 

And no, I never heard a woman complain about a small penis or a guy's bad sexual performance. Most of my friends are with people they've been with for a number of years and they might talk about relationship struggles but not in a disrespectful way and never about their man's sexual performance.

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I think the ignorance of youth is such that when congregated together, they can behave or talk in a certain way that is largely free of inhibitions and that can certainly overlap into a tendency to be rather rude and insolent about others. I learned this early from being in a boys school - they will josh each other most of the time, if you can't hack it you won't last too long in life!

 

Please Wholigan, I've had a lot of crap thrown my way. This isn't a matter of not being able to hack it. I've dealt with all kinds of ignorance. There is a difference between being cruel to others, condoning it and joining in, or standing up against it. I choose to stand up against it. And I don't buy lazy excuses like, "oh they are young so it's okay" and "if you can't hack it you won't last too long in life". Those really come off weak to me. And excuses for people to act ignorant. How come it's unacceptable to make fun of someone based on their religion (unless your Christinan/Catholic, then it's okay) or someone's race but you are allowed to make all kinds of judgements and negative comments about the way someone looks just because you think your better then that person? I sincerely don't get this thread at all or the ambivalance toward cruelity.

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Please Wholigan, I've had a lot of crap thrown my way. This isn't a matter of not being able to hack it. I've dealt with all kinds of ignorance. There is a difference between being cruel to others, condoning it and joining in, or standing up against it. I choose to stand up against it. And I don't buy lazy excuses like, "oh they are young so it's okay" and "if you can't hack it you won't last too long in life". Those really come off weak to me. And excuses for people to act ignorant. How come it's unacceptable to make fun of someone based on their religion (unless your Christinan/Catholic, then it's okay) or someone's race but you are allowed to make all kinds of judgements and negative comments about the way someone looks just because you think your better then that person? I sincerely don't get this thread at all or the ambivalance toward cruelity.

I was more referring to myself and the level of teasing that was thrown against me, which was sometimes very high especially given that I was already a very weird kid, so I made that comment in jest referring to myself. It was meant to be an anecdotal post, not a direct relation to my opinion.

 

It was not an excuse either, in fact I made a typo in my post as I was meant to say "they THINK they can get away with behaving a certain way". You also failed to quote the part of my post where I drew attention to the bad behavior if it went into a direction that was uncalled for.

 

Please do not read into things that I have not insinuated.

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Except that some of us (some people, some women) really don't, and didn't even when we were 25. If I'm into a person, I'm into them. Marks, wrinkles, moles, scars, hair patterns, etc, just add to how I'm into "him".

 

If those very superficial things turn me off, I'm probably not that into him in general.

Um...who said anything about judging the person you are into? We have been talking about judgements in general. I think we all know that people overlook flaws when they are attracted to them and even like said "flaws".

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kaylan

Wow you are so reaching here. First I was never worried about a flaw. I said that straight up. I simply asked if women can be as snarky as guys about it. My "flaw" isnt even visible unless I get under bright light and point it out to someone. So no biggie for me.

 

No Kaylan, you aren't asking. You've already made up your mind what women do and are because you keep telling us what we think and do despite alot of women here telling you that these things don't matter to them.

 

However, I am beginning to think they should since men are so easily ready to rip women apart for their bodies. To be honest, I have never seen or heard of the same pickiness and cruelity about men's bodies from women like I have with women's bodies from men.

 

Two, where did I say a woman is only as good if she is hot? I said my milf fantasies were alter for a little while.

 

You said:

It kinda ruined my milf fantasies for a little while, but then I figured her might just not got a hot one =P.

 

We get it. It always comes down to how hot the woman needs to be to be worthy of male affection. Seriously, women get it beat into their heads.

 

Milfs dont encompass all women, and most of us know relationships between younger men and older women are generally sexual in nature...so why wouldnt hotness matter?

 

Can we stop using the term MILF to begin with? It's a petty small minded word used to put women in a narrow box largely defined through popular x-rated films.

 

I also have no clue what "most" relationships are like between younger men and older women. What I do know is that younger men and older women relationships were much more harshly judged then older men and younger women relationships.

 

Plus I was talking about a FANTASY...and fantasies of such a nature are regarding sex and hotness.

 

Maybe it's time to get out of fantasy and enjoy the reality of what life and sex is. This is actually a big problem I find in our culture today and why I think so many men are disatisfied and nit picky about what real women are and have to offer. Men have been buying into fantasy land so long they no longer have a great grasp of what it takes to live in the real world with their own imperfects plus relating to women who are never going to be some fake fantasy that some men cling to like 12 year old boys with their Playboys.

 

No where did I imply that all women were only as good as their hotness. Youve seen enough of my posts to know I dont think that way so dont even try it.

 

You did. Women are only as good as their hotness to receive your affection. Meanwhile, lots of women on here talk about how if they love someone, it doesn't matter what his "imperfections" are. So don't tell me that women and men are equal in their judgments of looks in each other. Thread after thread on this website pops up about women's age, women's looks, women's fatness. You do not see women making nearly the same type of posts or nearly as often as you see the male posters prattle on about how women need to be this or that or how old and used up and fat and ugly they are.

 

 

At the end of the day men and women judge each others bodies. And women do it as much as dudes even though some folks like to pretend it doesnt happen. We are all visual here.

 

No, women do not do it as much or as hard as men do. And you can even see the evidence of that right here on Loveshack when you see the type of threads women start vs the type of threads men start and how often men start threads about women's looks and ages vs women. No. Women do not judge men's bodies as much or like men do. Women do not require men get implants to be an ideal. Women do not require men dye their hair to look better. Women do not require men wear make up to cover up imperfections. Women do not have the same physical standards of over weightness that men seem to or even age. So don't tell me that women and men are equal in this regard. They are not.

 

I am never getting naked infront of a guy again. These threads just remind me how judgemental and cruel men can be regarding women's bodies.

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When did 25 become the new 16?

 

I don't care if that's how guys talk about women. It shouldn't be how they talk about women. There are 25 year old guys that don't talk about women like that.

 

And no, I never heard a woman complain about a small penis or a guy's bad sexual performance. Most of my friends are with people they've been with for a number of years and they might talk about relationship struggles but not in a disrespectful way and never about their man's sexual performance.

So now its wrong and disrespectful for a guy to truthfully tell his friends he found a girls body not to his liking? Hell my ex drummer didnt even joke on the women. He stated what he said matter-of-factually, and just said he wouldnt go for an older woman again.

 

I dont see the big deal. Jesus Christ you are so damn touchy about the smallest things.

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Um...who said anything about judging the person you are into? We have been talking about judgements in general. I think we all know that people overlook flaws when they are attracted to them and even like said "flaws".

 

Isn't that what the thread is about? How else would a woman be in the position of seeing those stretch marks on your butt, unless you are into each other and getting busy?

 

Did I miss the point? :confused:

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So now its wrong and disrespectful for a guy to truthfully tell his friends he found a girls body not to his liking?

 

Yes, very!

 

It is the polar opposite of being a "gentleman/lady" to speak badly about a sexual partner's body to your mates. Now you know :p

 

The truly respectful won't share any intimacies at all.

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So now its wrong and disrespectful for a guy to truthfully tell his friends he found a girls body not to his liking? Hell my ex drummer didnt even joke on the women. He stated what he said matter-of-factually, and just said he wouldnt go for an older woman again.

 

I dont see the big deal. Jesus Christ you are so damn touchy about the smallest things.

Personally I used to consider it bad form. If it was complimentary then it wasn't a big deal, because usually they would voluntarily give that information simply out of pure glee.

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No Kaylan, you aren't asking. You've already made up your mind what women do and are because you keep telling us what we think and do despite alot of women here telling you that these things don't matter to them.

 

However, I am beginning to think they should since men are so easily ready to rip women apart for their bodies. To be honest, I have never seen or heard of the same pickiness and cruelity about men's bodies from women like I have with women's bodies from men.

Omg, but Ive seen and experienced plenty of women doing these things. Do my experiences and those of my own female friends mean nothing? Please just stop.

You said:

It kinda ruined my milf fantasies for a little while, but then I figured her might just not got a hot one =P.

 

We get it. It always comes down to how hot the woman needs to be to be worthy of male affection. Seriously, women get it beat into their heads.

???? WHAT?

 

Dude...its a freaking milf fantasy. ONE segment of women. I wasnt talking about all women, so please just quit with this whining. Again, do you EVER read my posts on this forum. All the women here know I want more in a girl than just hotness. However, when it comes to just casual fun with an older woman, which is a fantasy of mine, obviously hotness matters the most. Im not trying to date an older woman long term, so obviously the encounter would be sexual.

Can we stop using the term MILF to begin with? It's a petty small minded word used to put women in a narrow box largely defined through popular x-rated films.

 

I also have no clue what "most" relationships are like between younger men and older women. What I do know is that younger men and older women relationships were much more harshly judged then older men and younger women relationships.

Please go and cry about porn elsewhere. I swear to god you whine about any little bit of slang language. Milf didnt start with porn...it started with men who liked older women. Get it straight.

 

Fact of the matter is that big age gap relationship tend be largely sexual in nature most of the time.

 

Maybe it's time to get out of fantasy and enjoy the reality of what life and sex is. This is actually a big problem I find in our culture today and why I think so many men are disatisfied and nit picky about what real women are and have to offer. Men have been buying into fantasy land so long they no longer have a great grasp of what it takes to live in the real world with their own imperfects plus relating to women who are never going to be some fake fantasy that some men cling to like 12 year old boys with their Playboys.

So now Im not allowed to have a fantasy without you going on, yet again, another insecure rant about men's view of women?! COME ON NOW. Just stop.

 

Just because I have fantasies about some women does not mean I only want women for sex. Jeez.

 

You did. Women are only as good as their hotness to receive your affection. Meanwhile, lots of women on here talk about how if they love someone, it doesn't matter what his "imperfections" are. So don't tell me that women and men are equal in their judgments of looks in each other. Thread after thread on this website pops up about women's age, women's looks, women's fatness. You do not see women making nearly the same type of posts or nearly as often as you see the male posters prattle on about how women need to be this or that or how old and used up and fat and ugly they are.

PLEASE quote where I said or implied women only deserve my affection if they are really hot. Because Ill find you tons of posts of me saying I need more than physical attraction to be affectionate to someone and date them long term.

 

Did you NOT see where I said my ex had butt stretch marks that I loved and thought were cute? What if I told you I loved her less than perfect bigger than average italian nose? What if I told you she had this one spot on the small of her back that was a bit fuzzier than the rest of her. I called it her fuzz patch and loved rubbing it and teasing her in a cute way. So please show me where I said I wouldnt be ok with someones imperfections.

 

Just because some women come in THIS thread talking about imperfections not mattering, does not mean that other women out on this forum, or in the real world, arent bothered by them. I can easily show you examples. Men and women both have people who care about these things. I wish people would stop pretending women never care about physical things, because women here will tell you they do, and plenty have experiences where looks did matter a lot. Just because many threads dont exist does not mean this doesnt happen in real life.

 

Btw, last I checked this thread was about a guy having flaws...and now your turning it into how women are being attacked again. Both genders deal with it!

 

 

No, women do not do it as much or as hard as men do. And you can even see the evidence of that right here on Loveshack when you see the type of threads women start vs the type of threads men start and how often men start threads about women's looks and ages vs women. No. Women do not judge men's bodies as much or like men do. Women do not require men get implants to be an ideal. Women do not require men dye their hair to look better. Women do not require men wear make up to cover up imperfections. Women do not have the same physical standards of over weightness that men seem to or even age. So don't tell me that women and men are equal in this regard. They are not.

LOVE SHACK IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GENERAL POPULATION.

 

If it was than Id have to assume most men suck with women and never get dates...but most of the guys I know do just fine.

 

Just because YOU dont experience women being snarky about guys doesnt mean they arent. PLENTY are.

I am never getting naked infront of a guy again. These threads just remind me how judgemental and cruel men can be regarding women's bodies.

And here were have it. Proof that again, all your rants have to do with your own insecurities projected onto others.

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Isn't that what the thread is about? How else would a woman be in the position of seeing those stretch marks on your butt, unless you are into each other and getting busy?

 

Did I miss the point? :confused:

Its not just about butt stretch marks. Just stretch marks in general. Obviously if a girl is into a guy already it wont matter as much. Nor will other things. But Ive seen women recoil in horror at some dudes physical imperfections. Hell I have a friends whos turned off by moles...little insignificant moles.

 

Yet DY pretends women never care about such things.

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why are you singling out christian/catholic? fundamental religionists constantly judge. this is a sin. thats a sin. im 43 and have sex one time but ive been called a horrible sinner for that. one time in 43 years is not much.

 

Because it's culturally okay to mock Christains or Catholics but it's not culturally okay to mock Buddists, Jewish people or Hindisum. It was only an example. It wasn't meant to be the only example where my comment would apply. Fundamental religionists do judge wrongly too.

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Yes, very!

 

It is the polar opposite of being a "gentleman/lady" to speak badly about a sexual partner's body to your mates. Now you know :p

 

The truly respectful won't share any intimacies at all.

Im sorry. But welcome to the real world. People talk to their friends about sex and are honest about it. So now people shouldnt share their feelings and experiences about sex?

 

Its not disrespectful to share info so long as you are not dissing someone.

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I was more referring to myself and the level of teasing that was thrown against me, which was sometimes very high especially given that I was already a very weird kid, so I made that comment in jest referring to myself. It was meant to be an anecdotal post, not a direct relation to my opinion.

 

It was not an excuse either, in fact I made a typo in my post as I was meant to say "they THINK they can get away with behaving a certain way". You also failed to quote the part of my post where I drew attention to the bad behavior if it went into a direction that was uncalled for.

 

Please do not read into things that I have not insinuated.

 

Then I misread you Wholigan.

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