Sid6.7 Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Some of those women make their own money and are not gold diggers at all. Which ones?
Oxy Moronovich Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Two wrongs don't make a right. I hate it when women use this logic to justify cheating and other things so I won't do it to them. A woman who has earned her own money instead of leeching off of a man should not be punished for the actions of others. I do think that alimony reform will only get taken seriously when more and more women start having to pay their exes just because a marriage didn't work out. Last spring, my speech teacher was talking about trouble he had with his ex-wife. One of the biggest problems she had with the divorce was alimony. She made significantly more than he did. She couldn't get over the fact that she had to pay half the divorce settlement. Watching him do his impressions of her was priceless. 2
Woggle Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Which ones? Kathy Griffin Chelsea Handler Victoria Beckham Maybe a few more but these three earned it themselves and I am not a fan of any of their work. The Spice Girls were awful.
Sid6.7 Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Kathy Griffin Chelsea Handler Victoria Beckham Maybe a few more but these three earned it themselves and I am not a fan of any of their work. The Spice Girls were awful. Just did the math, of the ones I listed versus yours, makes 0.15% of one the ones you listed. The odds don't seem favorable.
Woggle Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Just did the math, of the ones I listed makes 0.15% of one the ones you listed. The odds don't seem favorable. There are plenty of other famous who have a whole lot more talent that make their own money. You just didn't list them.,
persevere Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) I really don't care how much she makes, so long as she's working. She can make much more or much less. What I don't like is when they do not ever make any attempt to pay for anything. At least get the tip or offer to pay every now and then. Our second or third date and you "insist" on paying? Great! IF she's got a decent job, it's a plus mainly because I can be pretty sure she's not after me for $$$. Edited May 28, 2012 by persevere
Sid6.7 Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 There are plenty of other famous who have a whole lot more talent that make their own money. You just didn't list them., Ok, then pick up my slack. We are talking women's finance after all. Women that have built themselves into an empire, a corporate entity without the aid of an ex husband, or a dying Man. Talent has nothing to do with it, err well unless you want to count bedroom activities from a female.
Pyro Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Men, how much do you care about a women's financial situation? It's a new era, I'm a splitting point in my career. I've been successful in the past and my options are now to WORK hard(er), move up => lots of $$, stability, perks etc OR go into human services (my original professional) that I loved but PAY was horrible. Most people would say go for what you love but I've been broke/poor before and it feels horrible not being able to provide basics needs. The high paying job doesn't feel all the great any more. For men, how much do you care about a female's financial success? I definitely wouldn't be with someone who didn't work or had no desire to. I don't care at all if she made more than me. If anything about a woman scared me I wouldn't ever date them, simple as that.
DuchessKaye Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 What if a woman has a lot of money but she didn't make it by herself? I mean, I have an excellent amount of money on banks but those are what I inherited from my Grandma who loved me so much. I'm working and making good cash too but can hardly save from what I make since I'm spending too much. Does it make any difference to a guy's view of facts?
Sid6.7 Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 What if a woman has a lot of money but she didn't make it by herself? I mean, I have an excellent amount of money on banks but those are what I inherited from my Grandma who loved me so much. I'm working and making good cash too but can hardly save from what I make since I'm spending too much. Does it make any difference to a guy's view of facts? Again, as said by others here its' not a problem at all if a woman has money. It's how well they manage it, because as you yourself admit you are not very fiscally sound. Most Men already know this about women. It becomes a problem when the women have their and money can't manage it and run out of it. Then expect to manage the money of a Man after they are broke. And some Men are dumb enough to allow this.
Els Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Ok, then pick up my slack. We are talking women's finance after all. Women that have built themselves into an empire, a corporate entity without the aid of an ex husband, or a dying Man. Talent has nothing to do with it, err well unless you want to count bedroom activities from a female. Yawn, more of the same. Half the women you mentioned are actually celebrities and earners (or rich kids) in their own right. Less so than their husbands (because you purposely chose those to cite), but still more than you, I'd wager. At any rate, as for the other half that is fully gold-digging, who do you think allowed that? Did they come up to the guy with a gun in his face and say, "Support me for the rest of my life?" No, it was a trade all the same. You'll notice that in many of the 'rich-man, golddigging-woman' couples, the man is usually significantly older and less good-looking. So why is he with a woman half his age who makes Playboy centrefolds? He offered what he had in exchange for what she had, that he would not have gotten otherwise. Nobody's getting screwed over here, least of all men. If Hugh Hefner had wanted to get with a fellow female CEO of his age and appearance, I'm sure he could have, but he made his choices. Like all of the other men. 1
sb129 Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Ok, then pick up my slack. We are talking women's finance after all. Women that have built themselves into an empire, a corporate entity without the aid of an ex husband, or a dying Man. Talent has nothing to do with it, err well unless you want to count bedroom activities from a female. Attractive self made women JK Rowling Sara Blakely Natalie Massanet I found quite a few who weren't as traditionally good looking (ie Oprah among others) and China has loads of self made women.
kaylan Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) What if a woman has a lot of money but she didn't make it by herself? I mean, I have an excellent amount of money on banks but those are what I inherited from my Grandma who loved me so much. I'm working and making good cash too but can hardly save from what I make since I'm spending too much. Does it make any difference to a guy's view of facts? Honestly, if I were to be interested in you Id think this: 1. Spending too much is a turn off and makes me think you are spoiled and dont know the value of a dollar. Id be worried about having a relationship with you where you had financial expectations despite you inability to save your own money 2. I would believe my feelings in #1 were confirmed by the fact that you happened to be born into a situation where you were left a lot of money without doing the work. If you are a spendthrift, Id respect that more if you earned most of your worth yourself without it being handed to you. It would seem that you arent good with money because you know you have grandmas inheritance in the bank as backup. That seems too short sighted in my view. But we are young...so it wouldnt be much of an issue unless I was looking to settle down with you. Edited May 28, 2012 by kaylan
Woggle Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 In and of itself I would not hold it against a woman if she inherited her money but I do find that people who did not go out and earn what they have tend to not appreciate and have entitlement issues. 1
DuchessKaye Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Honestly, if I were to be interested in you Id think this: 1. Spending too much is a turn off and makes me think you are spoiled and dont know the value of a dollar. Id be worried about having a relationship with you where you had financial expectations despite you inability to save your own money 2. I would believe my feelings in #1 were confirmed by the fact that you happened to be born into a situation where you were left a lot of money without doing the work. If you are a spendthrift, Id respect that more if you earned most of your worth yourself without it being handed to you. It would seem that you arent good with money because you know you have grandmas inheritance in the bank as backup. That seems too short sighted in my view. But we are young...so it wouldnt be much of an issue unless I was looking to settle down with you. I never spent anything from the money I inherited though. Not even a single dollar. They are well kept. But all the money I am making right now, they all goes for my mortgage, cars taxes, groceries, travels expenses, and DATES budget! Nways, I'm pretty sure that if I didn't get any money from my granny, I won't be spending much for travels and won't be paying the half of bills on dates
LittlePrince Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Men, how much do you care about a women's financial situation? It's a new era, I'm a splitting point in my career. I've been successful in the past and my options are now to WORK hard(er), move up => lots of $$, stability, perks etc OR go into human services (my original professional) that I loved but PAY was horrible. Most people would say go for what you love but I've been broke/poor before and it feels horrible not being able to provide basics needs. The high paying job doesn't feel all the great any more. For men, how much do you care about a female's financial success? Females have financial success?
Fondue Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 I never spent anything from the money I inherited though. Not even a single dollar. They are well kept. But all the money I am making right now, they all goes for my mortgage, cars taxes, groceries, travels expenses, and DATES budget! Nways, I'm pretty sure that if I didn't get any money from my granny, I won't be spending much for travels and won't be paying the half of bills on dates You just hit the nail on the head there. Many women complain that men don't have the money to spend on her (read: thread about cheap guys), but when you consider where all that money is going to... I believe it's rude to question someone's financial situation, or even better yet, complain about it when you don't know where their money is going. You pointed out yourself that your paycheck gets used up! 1
lino Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Yawn, more of the same. Half the women you mentioned are actually celebrities and earners (or rich kids) in their own right. Less so than their husbands (because you purposely chose those to cite), but still more than you, I'd wager. At any rate, as for the other half that is fully gold-digging, who do you think allowed that? Did they come up to the guy with a gun in his face and say, "Support me for the rest of my life?" No, it was a trade all the same. You'll notice that in many of the 'rich-man, golddigging-woman' couples, the man is usually significantly older and less good-looking. So why is he with a woman half his age who makes Playboy centrefolds? He offered what he had in exchange for what she had, that he would not have gotten otherwise. Nobody's getting screwed over here, least of all men. If Hugh Hefner had wanted to get with a fellow female CEO of his age and appearance, I'm sure he could have, but he made his choices. Like all of the other men. I don't recognize half of those listed celebrities but I agree that a very old and rich man getting with a much younger woman is just asking for it. no sympathy from me for a guy in that scenario, he knew what he was getting into. 1
lino Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 You just hit the nail on the head there. Many women complain that men don't have the money to spend on her (read: thread about cheap guys), but when you consider where all that money is going to... I believe it's rude to question someone's financial situation, or even better yet, complain about it when you don't know where their money is going. You pointed out yourself that your paycheck gets used up! Yeah but she's one of the types who expects blokes to foot the bill no matter where his cash is going. She isn't going to care. Those types aren't uncommon either.
irc333 Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 FUnny you mention that....I saw this woman on Match that was a mere Human resource clerk...the site shows' salarys believe it or not She had herself listed as making 25 to 30K a year, and her MATCH should be making 100 to 150K a year...I questioned her on this, and she got on the defensive. lol Men, how much do you care about a women's financial situation? It's a new era, I'm a splitting point in my career. I've been successful in the past and my options are now to WORK hard(er), move up => lots of $$, stability, perks etc OR go into human services (my original professional) that I loved but PAY was horrible. Most people would say go for what you love but I've been broke/poor before and it feels horrible not being able to provide basics needs. The high paying job doesn't feel all the great any more. For men, how much do you care about a female's financial success?
Feelsgoodman Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Men, how much do you care about a women's financial situation? It's a new era, I'm a splitting point in my career. I've been successful in the past and my options are now to WORK hard(er), move up => lots of $$, stability, perks etc OR go into human services (my original professional) that I loved but PAY was horrible. For a short-term relationship, it doesn't matter. However, it's different for long-term relationships/marriage. I can understand a woman choosing to be a stay at home wife. The hit to the family's finances is offset with non-material gains from having a wife who is 100% devoted to her children and husband. But a woman who is choosing to work for "terrible pay" doing something she loves while expecting the man to carry most of the family's financial burden is just being selfish. A job is not a hobby. Your primary objective should be making a living, not having fun. "Doing what you love" is a luxury for the rich, not the poor.
Woggle Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 For a short-term relationship, it doesn't matter. However, it's different for long-term relationships/marriage. I can understand a woman choosing to be a stay at home wife. The hit to the family's finances is offset with non-material gains from having a wife who is 100% devoted to her children and husband. But a woman who is choosing to work for "terrible pay" doing something she loves while expecting the man to carry most of the family's financial burden is just being selfish. A job is not a hobby. Your primary objective should be making a living, not having fun. "Doing what you love" is a luxury for the rich, not the poor. I don't agree with this. I think people need a balance of work and play or else they become miserable but it is not the responsibility of another person to fund this lifestyle. If people also realized you don't need to spend a small fortune to have fun they would also be much happier. 1
ThaWholigan Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Personally I don't care much. I would like to think that the road to financial freedom is a goal for quite a few people, so it would be good to meet a woman who thinks the same way, regardless of how rich or poor she is. It's not how much she has, it's how financially intelligent she is, without money being the most prevalent thing on her mind, as while I desire to be rich, it is for reasons other than just having lots of money.
Ruby Slippers Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 In and of itself I would not hold it against a woman if she inherited her money but I do find that people who did not go out and earn what they have tend to not appreciate and have entitlement issues. Totally agree. This is why I have trouble clicking with guys born with a silver spoon. The ones I have met just don't seem to appreciate anything. I'm not jealous of them, because overall they seem numb and not happy about what they have. Sure, I've had to work hard and climb my way up - but I value what I have very much. And I've figured out I most likely need to be with someone who has a similar background and can relate to me in that way. Those guys always seem so much more appreciative for everything they have. They tend to have that inner light and strong character that are so attractive.
Woggle Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 I take a walk outside and sometimes I can't believe that I own my own home at the beach when little more than a decade ago I was living in a flophouse and living on 50 cent hot dogs every day. The fact that I earned it makes me appreciate it even more. 1
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