sleeping with a "skank" makes me a lowlife?

[Thornton]

Imo anyone who hooks up with random people is a skank, whether they're male or female.

[irin]

this is like when a man brands an women he sleeps with a "Slut", which to me also makes him a slut!

 

if you label someone a skank but go and sleep with them, you are also one.

[Els]

So the question becomes, why do posters in this thread rush to blameshift onto the guy who posts and blindly defend some unknown woman who was the source of the attitude?

 

Of course, the answer must be that the posters here are all feminazi-ish wymyn who have no concept of personal accountability because they're wymyn. Like kaylan, Woggle... oh wait.

 

Give us a break and stop talking semantics. Of course the OP perceives the woman he slept with in the same way that his co-worker did. Other than the fact that one is a slightly more offensive term, there is virtually no difference in meaning between the words he used to describe the woman, and the words his co-worker did. Nor did he ever try to dispute her words about the woman, only her words about HIM.

 

I agree with kaylan. If the OP voluntarily sleeps with a promiscuous person, it's silly for him to consider himself on morally 'higher ground' and happily derogate the other person for her sexuality while getting all affronted at being viewed similarly by others.

[Brit]

This thread is absurd, no OP, do what you wish with your life, and do not lose sleep over it:) If someone of low intelligence sleeps with a Pultizer Prize winner, it does not suddenly make them brilliant. Labels are for those who feel threatened in some way by another, because if not for any other reason they would not give a second nor first thought toward what you do with your own free time or waste their time labeling another for their choices.

[kaylan]

The word "skank" is a derogatory term. It implies you see them as a lesser person than yourself. If you're going to start calling a girl a skank and try pointing it out as a fact you're at the same level as someone calling all black people niggers.

 

Same goes for OP and his perfect group of friends.

Um...fail analogy is fail.

 

If a man or woman acts in a sexually unhealthy manner, the term skank applies. Trying to equate skank to the word nigger is highly stupid of you.

That's not how I read OP. He put "skank" in parentheses in the thread title, and then used other words, "tawdry," "aggressive," "sleazy," in an effort to describe "loose" women who frequent bars and hook up randomly, just as there are "tawdry," "aggressive," "sleazy men who do the same thing. OP makes a point that he does this himself infrequently, but there are women and men in most every bar out there who do it every night. The whole point of the post is that he doesn't agree with the woman's assessment of "skank" or with her attitude that he is now a skank for sleeping with that type of woman from time to time.

 

So no, I don't think she is following OP's example, but rather making a judgment about OP and the women in question that OP obviously wonders at and disagrees with.

 

So the question becomes, why do posters in this thread rush to blameshift onto the guy who posts and blindly defend some unknown woman who was the source of the attitude?

How is sleazy different from skank? How can he object to the coworkers view of him or the girl he slept with if he describes the girl in the same manner? Get real here. He admits hes ok with a sleazy woman and likes to get down that way himself....how in the world can he get mad at someone for calling a spade a spade when he does it himself?

 

Come on now.

Of course, the answer must be that the posters here are all feminazi-ish wymyn who have no concept of personal accountability because they're wymyn. Like kaylan, Woggle... oh wait.

 

Give us a break and stop talking semantics. Of course the OP perceives the woman he slept with in the same way that his co-worker did. Other than the fact that one is a slightly more offensive term, there is virtually no difference in meaning between the words he used to describe the woman, and the words his co-worker did. Nor did he ever try to dispute her words about the woman, only her words about HIM.

 

I agree with kaylan. If the OP voluntarily sleeps with a promiscuous person, it's silly for him to consider himself on morally 'higher ground' and happily derogate the other person for her sexuality while getting all affronted at being viewed similarly by others.

The bolded is so on target.

 

OP doesnt give a crap about how the woman is perceived. The whole problem here is that hes butthurt that some chick at work has a lower opinion of him. Oh wells...thats the consequences of his actions. He shouldnt care what his coworker thinks. He should own his actions. I own mine...and I havent hooked up with only saintly women.

Edited May 27, 2012 by kaylan

[Brit]

I believe harshly labeling others is hurtful. There is a difference of associating and questioning one's decisions and behavior, without labeling them. An example would be I viewed many girls entering a bar from another, with attire that was made up of enough thread to make a swimsuit. I would not label them whores, but question what the heck are they thinking. Is it the media that tells them, this is the way to meet men? They may not be skanks but just misled and misguided.

Her behavoir may make her seem questionably easy, but automatically labeling her a sleazeball is extreme. Who knows, maybe she lost an entire family to a Tornado, has been abused her entire life. She might be making wrong choices in life, but those are her choices to make, and losing sleep over someone else labeling another a Skank is sad.

[mortensorchid]

Double standard strike again! If a man sleeps with a woman he's a stud, if a woman sleeps with anyone she's a skank. But have you ever noticed that it's other women who call each other sluts and skanks and whores, not always the men who call them that?

 

But in all seriousness, if you as a man sleep with a dirty woman, then you are considered to be at her level. But, you can change your ways, you just have to make a decission whether or not you want to change and stick to it. You don't really feel all that good about yourself for doing this, do you? Otherwise you would not have put it out here on a forum.

[RedRobin]

Of course, the answer must be that the posters here are all feminazi-ish wymyn who have no concept of personal accountability because they're wymyn. Like kaylan, Woggle... oh wait.

 

Give us a break and stop talking semantics. Of course the OP perceives the woman he slept with in the same way that his co-worker did. Other than the fact that one is a slightly more offensive term, there is virtually no difference in meaning between the words he used to describe the woman, and the words his co-worker did. Nor did he ever try to dispute her words about the woman, only her words about HIM.

 

I agree with kaylan. If the OP voluntarily sleeps with a promiscuous person, it's silly for him to consider himself on morally 'higher ground' and happily derogate the other person for her sexuality while getting all affronted at being viewed similarly by others.

 

 

Ditto. Op, if you don't like being judged by the company you keep, then keep better company or keep your mouth shut.

 

That said, I've met so-called 'skanks' who are more honest and are more accountable for their behavior than so-called morally righteous.

 

None of us knows what goes on behind closed doors... what is in one's heart... or one's ability to be accountable. My biggest gripe is with double standards, inconsistency, hypocrisy, and dishonesty by BOTH genders... but I'd argue, especially men. Who have no problem 'tapping that' but somehow considering their own behavior as 'above' the woman they tapped. I personally see no difference.

 

I personally prefer men who show discretion and accountability in all of their behavior... after all... last time I checked those parts were attached to his body, not hers. (a saying I like to use many times). I'm not a fan of women being the sexual arbiter and righteousness banner holder... although I'm also obliged to recognize that society is what it is.

 

It has been said her before by better people than me... we are all obliged to present our authentic selves so that others can make the best decisions for themselves. If the OP is ok with sleeping with strangers then so be it.

[Brit]

Yes the worder, 'nigger,' was a derogatory term and label for the African American population in the past, and it's actual meaning is and was, 'ignorant,' before being used as a hateful label against AA, that if i hear by a non Black individual, makes me cringe. Such an ugly word.

[dasein]

Of course, the answer must be that the posters here are all feminazi-ish wymyn who have no concept of personal accountability because they're wymyn. Like kaylan, Woggle... oh wait.

 

I didn't say any of that, wave your placards and strawman hysterics at someone else.

[Els]

I didn't say any of that, wave your placards and strawman hysterics at someone else.

 

Isn't the very definition of a strawman argument, ignoring the valid points made by the people you are debating with, in order to throw out random and unrelated insults at them?

 

Oh, wait, again....

[kaylan]

I read your post and failed to notice any arguments that support your statement. Yet again.

 

The word "nigger" refers to a black person. But the word is a lot more than that: it's a derogatory term for those people, used by people who think they are superior to them.

 

The word "skank" refers to a sexually promiscuous person. But the word is also a lot more than just that: it's a derogatory term for those people, used by people who think they are better than those people.

 

How exactly is this not a great analogy? Please provide your reasoning with arguments, and try to keep in mind that "you are stupid", "this is fail" and "you are wrong" are not arguments.

Again. Stupid analogy is stupid. You cannot equate the use of nigger to the use of skank. Just stop trying bro. Everyone knows the weight of the word nigger is far more than the weight of the word skank. The word skank can never demonize someone in the same way a racial slur can. Race cannot be change. Sexual behavior can be altered. So your comparison is just garbage.

 

If I was to follow your example, then I could tell people never to call someone an idiot, because the word idiot puts someone down just like the word kike does. I hope Im not the only one to recognize how asinine such a comparison is.

 

You fail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 200 dollars.

Edited May 27, 2012 by kaylan

[dasein]

Isn't the very definition of a strawman argument, ignoring the valid points made by the people you are debating with, in order to throw out random and unrelated insults at them?

 

I didn't say or imply what you said I did as an excuse to launch your typical hysterics, that's the essence of a strawman. Disagreeing with those who want to insult OP unduly without reading and understanding what he actually posted is not a strawman. No surprise at all that you have no idea what a strawman actually is.

[kaylan]

Yes the worder, 'nigger,' was a derogatory term and label for the African American population in the past, and it's actual meaning is and was, 'ignorant,' before being used as a hateful label against AA, that if i hear by a non Black individual, makes me cringe. Such an ugly word.

Its actual meaning was never "ignorant". Get your history straight. Its a term used to put down those of dark skin color.

 

The word is derived from the Latin niger which means black but had negative and hateful connotations bred into it.

 

The whole "nigger means ignorant" lie was made up by those who wanted to use the word but not be seen as racist when they use it. It was always used as an insult to blacks, but the users of the word made up the "ignorant" lie as a way of saying "Not all *insert race* are *insert slur*...the word *insert slur* can apply to anyone".

 

And we know thats a bullcrap argument. Its just something people say to hide their racism. Just like when fools online try and say "theres a difference between blacks and nigger " or "theres a difference between latinos and spics". The whole idiotic argument that its somehow occur to call someone a racial slur if they do something you dont like.

 

Ignorance is not the word nigger, or any other racial slur. Whats ignorance? Id say people the things I have just laid out are accurate examples of the ignorance some people display.

[Els]

I didn't say or imply what you said I did as an excuse to launch your typical hysterics, that's the essence of a strawman. Disagreeing with those who want to insult OP unduly without reading and understanding what he actually posted is not a strawman. No surprise at all that you have no idea what a strawman actually is.

 

Yawn. If you have no logical counter to our actual (there's this thing called a topic, yeah?) points, it'd probably be wisest to stop right here. I don't know why you get off on trading insults on the internet, but I personally prefer intellectual debate, and slinging (well-rehearsed, admittedly) punches isn't part of that.

[kaylan]

Its actual meaning was never "ignorant". Get your history straight. Its a term used to put down those of dark skin color.

 

The word is derived from the Latin niger which means black but had negative and hateful connotations bred into it.

 

The whole "nigger means ignorant" lie was made up by those who wanted to use the word but not be seen as racist when they use it. It was always used as an insult to blacks, but the users of the word made up the "ignorant" lie as a way of saying "Not all *insert race* are *insert slur*...the word *insert slur* can apply to anyone".

 

And we know thats a bullcrap argument. Its just something people say to hide their racism. Just like when fools online try and say "theres a difference between blacks and niggers " or "theres a difference between latinos and spics". The whole idiotic argument that its somehow okay to call someone a racial slur if they do something you dont like.

 

Ignorance is not the word nigger, or any other racial slur. Whats ignorance? Id say people who do the things I have just laid out are accurate examples of the ignorance some people display.

Typos fixed in underline.

[Brit]

Again. Stupid analogy is stupid. You cannot equate the use of nigger to the use of skank. Just stop trying bro. Everyone knows the weight of the word nigger is far more than the weight of the word skank. The word skank can never demonize someone in the same way a racial slur can. Race cannot be change. Sexual behavior can be altered.

 

Agree completely, but skank is still harsh and innappropriate. Actually, while I am non African American, I find it amusing and very smart of the AA race, to take the word and use it in their own way, making the word almost irrelevant and burying it's original purpose and intent into almost extinction. Some may not agree, but i think it was brilliant in doing so.

[William]

Off-topic thread direction is off-topic. If it's possible to clean this up, I'll re-open it. The Indy race might intervene. Don't wait for me.