truth_seeker Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 in general, online dating makes bad people worse and makes good people jaded. I couldn't agree more with this. 1
d'Arthez Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 If you do do OLD, be brutally honest. Recent picture and putting down exactly what you are looking for. This applies to all methods of dating. Too many people who don't know what they want. Or say one thing to look "cool and trendy" but actually want something else. 2
truth_seeker Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 This applies to all methods of dating. Too many people who don't know what they want. Or say one thing to look "cool and trendy" but actually want something else. I don't know how many profiles I've seen where girls post pictures of themselves at a club or some hot vacation spot all dressed up. Why not post a picture of what you really look like? Oh, that's right, no one will email you? I like the pictures of women who are participating in an athletic event or just a casual shot of them dressed down. That's what I posted when I had an OLD profile. This is who I am, this is what to expect if we meet in person. I've come to the conclusion that OLD is aka Flake City. Just too many options that allow people to get out of control. It also allows the people who don't get any attention IRL to get their attention via emails.
d'Arthez Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 I like the pictures of women who are participating in an athletic event or just a casual shot of them dressed down. That's what I posted when I had an OLD profile. This is who I am, this is what to expect if we meet in person. Exactly. People forget that if they give their "best' impression that they also create the expectation that "perfection" on their part is par for the course. If you then show up for the real first impression, you have let the person down, and he / she will already feel like they have wasted their time. It is not about getting 50 or 60 approaches or making 50 or 60 approaches, it is about the quality of the approaches. And that sadly is often a big let-down.
FitChick Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 It is not about getting 50 or 60 approaches or making 50 or 60 approaches, it is about the quality of the approaches. And that sadly is often a big let-down. Same in real life. 1
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 My God, you folks are AWESOME!!! Thank you so much for the excellent input. I appreciate it all, every word of it. I even enjoy the differing opinions, it always gives me something to think about, and different perspectives. I am going to reflect on all this and re-read it. I will come back with questions and comments as well. I want to make sure I am well versed in the highs and lows, tips and tricks of on-line dating (and the other group outing dating type events) before I 'go for it'. I always like to be armed with a little knowledge beforehand. Thank you all so much!!! I don't often start threads of my own.... This is great!! I am very excited about all this, despite the possible pitfalls. I will come back here soon, with other comments and questions as they come to me. Cheers!
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 Ok I did think of a question. Somehow I got the impression that the online dating sites that are free usually have a lower quality of people on them. I am guessing most people would agree with me on that? And, the folks who are on the free sites, are not really as invested in the dating process, since they aren't willing to pay money (or they don't have a working credit card that they could buy a membership with). Another thing. Someone mentioned, don't post more than 8 pictures. Is it because that comes across as vain? Then it was mentioned, it might be a good idea to post pictures that show the everyday version of yourself (rather than a heavily made-up version with make-up and such). I am on the fence about that suggestion too. I kind of see the wisdom in it, though. More questions to come! Thanks!!
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) I hear bad things about eharmony and decent things about match.com. Other than that I think for lesser known dating websites it depends on where you live. Things like chemistry.com, Christian Mingle and Zoosk for those you need to live in at least a medium sized city. I went on chemistry.com and Christian mingle and there were 10 people or less on those sites and I live in a small city. What are the bad things you heard about eharmony? I live in a major city in Texas, so I have that going for me. I will not do the Long Distance Relationship thing again. I do wonder what the radius should be, that I would set for myself, in terms of miles from my house. I suppose the rule of thumb should be under an hour drive? Does that sound reasonable? Now, I think Zoosk is a free site, and if so, I am probably not interested, but I might consider it. The worst site I've seen seems to be the "Plenty of Fish", along with personals on Craigslist, which seemed to be very much about sexual hook-ups and players. Christian Mingle is an interesting thought. I am a Christian, but not real involved with the church and such. That might have people who are too religious oriented for me, but I do plan to at least check it out just to see and get a feel. Wouldn't want to miss out on some possibly good folks there. Thanks for the insight! I had great success with match, but I did do online dating on and off for years before I met my wife. OLD does take time and you have to wade thru all the trash on those places, the good thing about that is that once you figure out how to then it gets easier. If I was single today I would try Events and Adventures in a heartbeat.. If you are super busy then match might be good, but if you have time to go places then I would think Events and Adventures would be a lot of fun and hopefully you would meet someone you click with. Good luck Yes, I do plan to try Match. I think Match is probably the biggest and oldest, no? On the Events one, my fear is the fact I have 2 kids, age 5 and 8. I would want guys to know that right up front, before we meet up at an event, hit it off, and then he finds out I have kids and backs off, and I get all disappointed. I wonder if there are on-line profiles available of the folks attending the events? I could put that I have kids on my profile, if they have that, that might help alleviate some of that. I could also wear a tshirt with my kids pictures on it to the event, then they'd know for sure! LOL. That would be retarded wouldn't it? Yes? No? I need help with these things!!! THanks for the advice Art Critic. I found my SO via OKCupid, so I'd recommend that site. Did not like the look of POF at all. Set up a profile in EHarmony after passing their questionnaire but never used it. Thanks for sharing that you found your Significant Other at OKCupid! That is great news!! Thanks for that input, that is heartening and gives me hope. I honestly believes that each OLD site works depending on its location; here in the Bay Area, Plenty of Fish gets more use than OKCupid - but I have friends on the East Coast who prefer OKCupid. I have tried them all at one time or another; from eHarmony to Adult Friend Finders. But I'm an extremist; I posted on AFF knowing I wanted a partner who could communicate about sex up front without <ahem> pussy-footing </ahem> around. Ultimately - and this has been no secret - I found my match on Collarme, which is, yes, mostly a kinky website. But I wrote a profile that stated emphatically that I was there for a relationship which INCLUDED my particular kink and that the relationship must proceed first with an Intellectual connection, then Emotional, and finally Sexual. I had a whole list of preferences and requirements and I was inundated with potential paramours, many who read what I wrote and many who did not. Sure, I got a lot of players, but I also had some very interesting dates and potential relationships come out of it. I granted that my method is unconventional, but if a woman is upfront and desirous about her sexuality (as I believe FL is), it might be an avenue worth taking - albeit slowly and with much caution. Yes, I am a very sexual person, you are correct Madame! LOL But, I don't have the emphasis on a particular type of sexual proclivity that you do (with BDSM - although it's cool by me, it's not a priority for me), although it would be very important to me that my love interest be a sexual person as I am. This is a tricky endeavor for me. I sometimes don't know which item to try to work on first, the emotional connection or the sexual one. This will take some time to figure out. I'm sure I'll bomb out a few times and have a few train wrecks before I get it right, par for the course with me. Hopefully not though. And the whole stalker issue is a big one as well, had those in the distant past, don't want anymore. I'm too old to have to raise kids and have stalkers. Which is yet another item I have to figure out, how to do this dating thing safely. I think I know the parameters and boundaries to keep things safe though. Thank you CarrieT, AS ALWAYS, for the most excellent and heartfelt advice you give, to me, and everyone here. You are such a LoveShack treasure my dear lady!! Edited May 25, 2012 by Forever Learning 1
oaks Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 Ok I did think of a question. Somehow I got the impression that the online dating sites that are free usually have a lower quality of people on them. I am guessing most people would agree with me on that? And, the folks who are on the free sites, are not really as invested in the dating process, since they aren't willing to pay money (or they don't have a working credit card that they could buy a membership with). With the caveat to both points that many people who pay to have profiles on other sites also create a profile on some free sites. As for the "willing to pay money" point - I'd rather keep my pennies to spend on a date rather than giving them to a match-making service. I don't think that's an indication of how invested I am (or really whether I'm "lower quality"). Another thing. Someone mentioned, don't post more than 8 pictures. Is it because that comes across as vain? You haven't got 8 good pictures anyway. Well, that might be a little harsh, but I've never seen anyone with 8 good pictures!
Star Gazer Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 Get your feet wet with Meetup, which ostensibly keeps things interest-related. Uggggggh. No!! Meetup is NOT A DATING SITE. It is where people - including married people and people of your own gender when neither of you are gay - go to meetup with people who share common interests: dog breeds, trail running, book clubs, white water rafting, knitting, etc. You shouldn't USE Meetup to find dates. If you happen to meet someone there who strikes your fancy, great... But you don't go get your car repaired or go grocery shopping to find a date, so you shouldn't use an auto shop or market as a dating site anymore than you should with Meetup. 1
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 Eharmony was a waste of money. I was on there for 4 months and never went on a date with anyone. Eharmony is mostly BS and doesn't really work. Eventually, you'll get to a point where you'll expend all your matches and then you have to sit around with your thumb up your butt for a week waiting for the system to generate new matches. They would also send me wasted matches. The system would match me with women that lived nowhere near me even though I clearly stated in my profile I wasn't willing to travel more than 30 miles to meet a match. Imagine living in the South East United States and being matched with women in California. It made no sense. They will also recycle matches on you. I got the same women matched to me 2-3 times. They will also match you with non-paying members which is a total waste. On Eharmony only paying members can contact each other. Half the profiles on there don't have pictures and I suspect the majority of people on there just signed up to take the personality questionnaire and then abandoned their profiles. Another big problem with Eharmony is the Free Communication Weekends they hold every few months. You'll get all these non-paying members who flood the site and message you on the weekends and then they flake out on you and abandon their profiles because they don't want to pay. This is very insightful advice. Thank you so much for providing so much detail here, I REALLY appreciate it. I am sorry the experience was so bad for you. What a waste of your time. But thank you for sharing all that. I can plainly see how that would be very aggravating and disheartening. It does indeed sound like a scam. Wow though, you do know your online dating stuff!! I will have more questions in the future for you! Thank you for the wisdom! So this gave the idea to checkout Match, I went through over50 profiles and every single one I was unable to make the “cut” Under the heightsection all these woman are looking for 5’9 or taller even though I saw someone4’11. Now I am 5’8 and granted I’m shorter by an inch, I’m not sure if I just bump myself up to 5’9 or not. Good thing I did not pay anything for this crap. You bring up a very interesting subject. I am 5'8". My ex of 16 years, was 5'8". I had told myself that when I started dating again, that I wouldn't date anyone under 5'10". Guess what? I recently fell for someone that is 5'8"! LOL But, it hasn't worked out as I fully hoped relationship-wise - he is not sold on the fact I have kids, is one issue. So the lesson I learned was, the first and foremost thing I must resolve with each potential date, is whether or not they want a relationship with a woman with two children (they are ages 5 and 8, boys). But, my point is, that I totally threw my height rule out the window, after having hit it off with him. I am fine with someone being around my height (maybe even an inch or two shorter). So, it was a great experience for me, and I learned it's ok if he's my height. It opens up alot of avenues for me as well, coming to be at peace with the height issue. Go me!! Good luck to you and thank you for the insight. Get your feet wet with Meetup, which ostensibly keeps things interest-related. Socializing can progress IRL as appropriate. TBH, even though I had marked success with OLD back in the 90's, I wouldn't touch it today, save for international dating, and then only the free local native language sites. I spend a fair amount of time on mamba.ru and dating.ru since Russian ladies have long been an interest of mine. IMO, the operative factor is to get out there. I meet plenty of potentials just through traveling; no OLD required. Match is still showing two women in my age range within 10 miles of me. No wonder I try other things. YMMV. Good luck. Thank you for the great advice, as always, Carhill. I respect your insight, it is always trustworthy and reliable. I will continue to strongly consider the Meetup dating stuff for getting my feet wet. Plus, I could really use the face to face social exposure. Thank you sir, you ROCK, as always!!
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 You haven't got 8 good pictures anyway. Well, that might be a little harsh, but I've never seen anyone with 8 good pictures! That is a little harsh!! LOL And yes, I do have 8 good pictures. I'm a pretty hot chick when I get dolled up my friend. No doubt about it.
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 Uggggggh. No!! Meetup is NOT A DATING SITE. It is where people - including married people and people of your own gender when neither of you are gay - go to meetup with people who share common interests: dog breeds, trail running, book clubs, white water rafting, knitting, etc. You shouldn't USE Meetup to find dates. If you happen to meet someone there who strikes your fancy, great... But you don't go get your car repaired or go grocery shopping to find a date, so you shouldn't use an auto shop or market as a dating site anymore than you should with Meetup. Excellent point, thanks for that perspective Star Gazer. I get it. Keep it coming! I need your brain power too. whats wrong with that. i'm chicken to ask out a girl but if someone had intrests that are the same and wasn't chicken they could get a date. Well, I can agree with this as well. Casting a big net is useful in getting results. Maybe the trick is to do a meetup that is related to something you are truly interested in. You could even make acquaintences of the same sex who may know of someone of the opposite to introduce you to. Life works in funny ways like that. Cheers!
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 I posted some replies to others who left input, but the LoveShack message said it would have to be reviewed, so rather than double post, I will wait and see if my other comments get posted or not. Thanks!
zengirl Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 Uggggggh. No!! Meetup is NOT A DATING SITE. It is where people - including married people and people of your own gender when neither of you are gay - go to meetup with people who share common interests: dog breeds, trail running, book clubs, white water rafting, knitting, etc. You shouldn't USE Meetup to find dates. If you happen to meet someone there who strikes your fancy, great... But you don't go get your car repaired or go grocery shopping to find a date, so you shouldn't use an auto shop or market as a dating site anymore than you should with Meetup. Meetup is NOT a dating site; however, it is a social site. Somewhere that's good for making new friends is not really that far from somewhere that's good for finding romantic partners. I'd recommend anyone doing OLD also do meetup, if they just generally enjoy socializing, but no expectations for potential romantic partners to be present at any particular Meetup of course! There are "dating" meetups on Meetup, though. For actual OLD, OKC worked for me. I liked Meetup and DID meet some men there as well as many friends met and fun times had. Everywhere else sucked for me, but I'm liberal and young. 1
persevere Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 as a woman you'll get a hundred message/day. i get none. That's the truth of it. A decent looking woman could make a profile with one picture. Even with that and one word in her entire profile summary like Hi!, she'll still get plenty of emails. Contrast that with a man. He could put a few pictures up, pour his heart and feelings out into all the profile questions and still get relatively rare, if ever, emails. That's just the nature of it. The man still has to pursue. The overriding thing I hear is women like your email to at least address something regarding her profile.and... No self portraits, shirtless! I digress at the risk of hijacking.... My remark about 8 pictures was pertaining to vanity. That's just me, though. A woman who has 25 pictures on there? Well, it's just too much. They are usually the ones who say looking for $150,000+, favorite place? Tahiti. Then go on the mention all the high dollar 5 star places in the local area as their "hang out". No thanks...even if I was rich. Just be normal and you will 'hopefully' attract normal people. Also, it is usually pretty surprising how close someone interacts, online, to how they really are. 1
oaks Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 That is a little harsh!! LOL And yes, I do have 8 good pictures. I'm a pretty hot chick when I get dolled up my friend. No doubt about it. Ok. In that case make sure you're prepared for an overflowing mailbox full of inarticulate messages from horny men who are drooling over your pics.
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 Ok. In that case make sure you're prepared for an overflowing mailbox full of inarticulate messages from horny men who are drooling over your pics. I am just rattling your cage and joking around a bit as well. I am above average looking but not a supermodel hottie. But this does bring up a good point, the whole thought of me posting pictures of myself with not too much makeup and dressing down. I don't want to go overboard and attract the wrong attention. That is a big consideration. I don't want to be a player magnet, I just want to be myself and find someone with genuine and authentic intentions. I know that will take time and patience. 1
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 Also, it is usually pretty surprising how close someone interacts, online, to how they really are. Wow, that was a good comment. Never thought about that. I thought maybe people were trying to be the 'best' version of themselves, online. I bet though with practice I will develop an eye and intuitive ability at getting a general feel for who people really are, even before I were to contact them. As with everything, it is probably a matter of practice, learning the ropes, and gaining familiarity with how this stuff works. Cheers! ********************** Seth Apprentice, Laveli, and Carhill- I had written a response to your comments, and that was the post of mine that was put on a 24-48 automatic hold. I think I posted too many in a row is what happened. Anyhow, it should pop up in a day or so, it was just thoughts and thank yous.
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 Because I was around 40, I cast my net wide and tried a lot of the online services Match, PoF, and OKC. I had a great time with OKC and met a lot of interesting people, but somehow online dating didn't work. I tried off and on for two years and gave up. Six months later I met my boyfriend at a meetup group for lefty/progressives. I attended the group for company and drinks after work. Maybe because it assembled likeminded people, dating sometimes happened among attendees. The meetup group which only attracts 10-12 people per week now boasts of one marriage and two couples who are living together. Not bad. By the way, it's a national thing - called "Drinking Liberally." See if there's a chapter in your neck of the woods. Sounds very encouraging! Great tips, thanks! eHarmony - waste of money because it chooses for you and the communication process is sloooow. Very high level of men BUT those same men (I found) have profiles on OK Cupid, Plenty of Fish and Match.com. So whichever one you choose you're sure to see the same profiles. Match - I liked it because you have control over choosing profiles and the communication (you can send emails as soon as you sign up wheras you don't get that feature with eHarmony). Better selection of men but a lot of ghost profiles on Match. Ghost profiles are members who didn't bother to hide their profiles once they cancelled their membership. So Match uses their profiles to fill up your searches with, only you won't know this when you're sending out emails and not getting responses from those profiles. I know this because I read a few articles online about this search filler tactic that Match is guilty of doing. OK Cupid - my nickname for this is OK Stupid. Yes its free but you get what you pay for as far as the quality of people. Plenty of Fish - yuck. That's all I can say about this free dating website. Yuck. After my most recent experience, I've decided I'm going to stick with offline dating. My idea of romance is not Skyping every day with someone or texting or emailing. For some people that works. For me, I'm more needy. I can't survive on a text or email because electronic communication is so impersonal. I tried LDR in high school and college with no luck. Too expensive. Too time consuming. Too difficult. Good insight, thank you for the detailed information. Interesting insight on the Match 'ghost profiles'. I guess there is no clear cut answer to any of this, there seems to be pitfalls and shortcomings with all of the online dating services. This is good to know in advance, to avoid becoming discouraged. Who knew dating was such a challenge? Gee whiz! Hey Carhill! Totally agree with you about Meetup. Best organization ever!! You have a better chance at meeting a man you have something in common with through a Meetup group you join (for free) than you do wasting your money with online dating websites. My vote is to join a bunch of Meetups in your area and let time do its trick. Eventually you'll be presented with dating opportunities via those groups. I think you are right. Your vote made it into the ballot box, I have tallied your vote and appreciate it!! I tried EHarmony for a bit and then disabled my profile. I absolutely hated their guided communication. I ended up going through all their steps with one guy and he was the only person that I met on there. He was a complete psycho stalker. Seriously, out of all men I met online, this one was totally NUTS. I have been on OKC on and off for a couple of years. I like it because they have the in depth questionnaire which I read always for potential dates. After reading their answers, 99% men don't make the cut and I don't bother meeting them so it saves time. There were few interesting people I met on there and I am still friends with a couple. It attracts nerdy, quirky crowd which I like. I was on Australian version of match for a few months but eventually got rid of the profile. I only ever got messages from men that can barely spell. I was on POF for a day and got nearly 100 messages asking for casual sex In summary, I only have OKC profile now. This is interesting, the things you like about OKCupid. I will definitely check that out. Thank you for that information, awesome. Forgot to say, the first guy I ever met when I started doing OLD was the best one (on OKC). He was smart and drop dead gorgeous. I didn't take him seriously and assumed that he was a player due to his great looks. I have him still on my FB. We went on a few dates and I honestly thought that he was too good for me. I was also overwhelmed by other options from OLD and just kind of ignored him. He got married to the next girl he met on OKC. Turns out he was sincere and he treats that girl like gold (from the stuff they post on FB). Seems like I really missed a great chance Shucks. That stinks. Such is life. Onward and upward, dear lady!!
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 Well I just took a look around one of the dating sites mentioned here and I feel nauseous. Uh oh. It was one of the free sites. I didn't see anything appealing there whatsever. Shucks. This could take some time! Darn. Wow. Kind of depressing. My little visit there sort of swept away the hopeful feeling I was having. Dang it.
thatone Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 Right, but some just cut off their nose to spite their face....they'd rather either. 1. Hit the clubs with a ALL girls night out, where all the "beautiful people" hang out. 2. Stay at home browsing Match.com lol They prefer not to even have a social life, unless the venue is "Raining Men.....Halleluah!! It's rainnin men!!" lol Well, hot men that is. those are not the only options You are absolutely spot on and this is exactly why so many resort to the use of dating sites. If you live in a large city, it isn't actually that hard to meet people. very true Miraculously, I've met more women lately just going out to the local, laid back watering hole. I avoid "beautiful people" hangouts. Too many trendy materialistic people. nothing miraculous about it. that's how people met before the internet why wouldn't they still meet there after? call me old fashioned if you like but i'm under the assumption that if people can't meet other people without the internet they're not going to be very sociable in person anyway. i'm not brad pitt by any means but on the more popular nights for my age/demographic at my neighborhood bar i can pull a couple phone numbers in any given week. it's not hard. 1
KathyM Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 I think online dating is a good option to use. It gets you in touch with a wide variety of people that you wouldn't otherwise have met IRL. A friend of mine (middle aged) met a woman on EHarmony, and they got married a year later. They were a perfect match. Another friend (middle aged) met her husband on Christian Mingles. He is a high quality person. My niece met her SO on Match.com. She is in her 20s. I've known people who were on POF at some point or another. Quality people. So go ahead and try it. You have nothing to lose by trying. Might as well cover all your bases and expand your options. I know some women who go to Meetup.com events, and they tend to like those as well, although there seems to be a lot more women than men in those groups, from what I've heard. 1
Author Forever Learning Posted May 25, 2012 Author Posted May 25, 2012 Well I just took a look around one of the dating sites mentioned here and I feel nauseous. Uh oh. It was one of the free sites. I didn't see anything appealing there whatsever. Shucks. This could take some time! Darn. Wow. Kind of depressing. My little visit there sort of swept away the hopeful feeling I was having. Dang it. I have rebounded from that nauseous, bad feeling I had. Hallelujah! That was just a knee jerk reaction I guess, since I saw so many folks that didn't look like a match for me. But I shook off that crummy 'let-down' feeling, and feel more optimistic now. I think that was just an initial reaction. I expect feelings of disappointment to subside as I become more accustomed to looking at these sites. It just takes practice and patience. Yes I am giving myself a pep talk here!!! LOL nothing miraculous about it. that's how people met before the internet why wouldn't they still meet there after? call me old fashioned if you like but i'm under the assumption that if people can't meet other people without the internet they're not going to be very sociable in person anyway. i'm not brad pitt by any means but on the more popular nights for my age/demographic at my neighborhood bar i can pull a couple phone numbers in any given week. it's not hard. I met my ex-husband at a bar. I won't be doing that again, he is an alcoholic. Anyhow, I agree, it is a means in which to meet folks (the local watering hole), and not all of them will be alcoholics. So yes, it is an avenue of social contact, and probably good experience at social mingling as well. It was for me at that stage of my life (back in my twenties). I played on a dart team, and even though I wasn't very good at it, I made a whole bunch of friends and developed social skills as well. Good experiences. Now in my forties, it's a dead end option for meeting a quality man. I won't do bars, but I DON'T begrudge others who do. Cheers! I think online dating is a good option to use. It gets you in touch with a wide variety of people that you wouldn't otherwise have met IRL. A friend of mine (middle aged) met a woman on EHarmony, and they got married a year later. They were a perfect match. Another friend (middle aged) met her husband on Christian Mingles. He is a high quality person. My niece met her SO on Match.com. She is in her 20s. I've known people who were on POF at some point or another. Quality people. So go ahead and try it. You have nothing to lose by trying. Might as well cover all your bases and expand your options. I know some women who go to Meetup.com events, and they tend to like those as well, although there seems to be a lot more women than men in those groups, from what I've heard. Oh Kathy, that is very encouraging, thank you for those anecdotes!! They go a long way with me in terms of encouragement. Thank you for chiming in and sharing your knowledge of these things, I appreciate it!! 1
Eternal Sunshine Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 I have 9 pictures on there. I have some not hot ones, and one without even a scrap of make up at home. I also have made up, posed ones. There is a range so that guys can see what I look like at home. I still get plenty of messages. I do get "you look better in person" when they meet me, so perhaps I should get rid off some "bad" pics 1
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