CC12 Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 But, you are also upset that the guys that approach you are not what you look for in a guy. Pretty sure she never said anything at all about what she looks for in a guy, she only stated how she would rather be approached.
Radu Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Pretty sure she never said anything at all about what she looks for in a guy, she only stated how she would rather be approached. Which implies she would be open to those approaches, which means that if a guy who demonstrated some sort of 'balls' in approaching her would have a chance. Which in turn means that she is not truly 'not interested'.
CC12 Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Which in turn means that she is not truly 'not interested'. It means she is truly not interested in being approached in that manner, and therefore not interested in anyone who approaches that way. 1
Radu Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Well, may i suggest she tattoo's this thread's URL on her forehead ? Or maybe she can develop telepathy and send this message in guy's minds ? Or she dresses like a pepperpot, that should have it fixed right there. PS: This thread was started by OP, not you or me. I have answered the OP's initial post, let's keep this in that direction.
6ft180natl Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 been as nice as I can be but guys aren't taking the hint. its getting on my nerves now! a guy wants a minute of my time. I be nice and give it to him. he wants to know if I gotta man. I tell him no and that I just got out of a relationship and dont wanna be dating right now. he thinks he can change my mind. I tell him you cant. He doesnt get it! other guys stop me in the street to ask for the time? seriously? I mean I'm not stupid. everyone has cell phones! they just wanna break the ice with me to get something going. no no no! whats with these lame guys using excuses to bother me? I much prefer a man that steps to me like a man and tells me his wants. at least its more honest. but I'm getting mostly guys hiding what they want. its pissing me off and I used to be nice about it before but now I'm ready to explode! Deal with it. Until we live in a world where the majority of women do the approaching this is the way it is. While you are not ready and complaining about this there are other women complaining that men are not men anymore because they don't approach women. Should they listen to you and not approach women or listen to those other women and approach women more? Also when you feel like you are ready to date or whatever if all of a sudden all men took the hint and never approached anymore you would likely not like that either.
d'Arthez Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 While you are not ready and complaining about this there are other women complaining that men are not men anymore because they don't approach women. Is it too hard to understand that not all women want the same thing at the same point in time? Why do men have the tendency to think that they are perfect, and when one single women does not fit a man's ideals of perfection, it is the fault of all women? As if men don't have a part to play in that one. Since when is the universe phallocentric?? Also when you feel like you are ready to date or whatever if all of a sudden all men took the hint and never approached anymore you would likely not like that either. Threaten her with becoming an old cat lady. Taking the frustrations out much? 1
Radu Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 And how are men supposed to know what goes on in a woman's mind they see for the first time, when even spouses of 50yrs or more sometimes feel they don't know their partner fully ? Instead of attacking the few men who actually posted here without insulting anyone, why don't you come with solutions. I proposed one serious solution ... to dress down. I know for a fact that it will work. Don't like it, start the the 5th wave of feminism that changes things to women approaching instead of men approaching [most guys would support this] and then you can dictate the terms even better.
6ft180natl Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Is it too hard to understand that not all women want the same thing at the same point in time? Why do men have the tendency to think that they are perfect' date=' and when one single women does not fit [b']a man's[/b] ideals of perfection, it is the fault of all women? As if men don't have a part to play in that one. Since when is the universe phallocentric?? Threaten her with becoming an old cat lady. Taking the frustrations out much? Is it too hard to understand that not all women want the same thing at the same point in time? Nope it isn't, in fact that was my whole point. Since not all women want the same thing she can't expect men to know and cater to her wants especially when some other women want some of the treatment these men are giving her therefore they will continue hitting on her because they don't know her wants up front until they do. Not threatening her with becoming an old cat lady how would I have the power to do that anyway? Just pointing out a truth. I'm sure she would prefer if men didn't hit on her when she didn't want to be hit on and then did hit on her when she wants to be hit on but they can't read minds and all women are different so it wont happen. If anything she is taking her frustrations out or venting them in this thread right?
Emilia Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Just wear sunglasses when weather appropriate OP and look like as if you are always in a hurry, walk fast. Very few guys approach if they can't catch your eye or if you whiz past them. Easy.
johan Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Is it too hard to understand that not all women want the same thing at the same point in time? Why do men have the tendency to think that they are perfect' date=' and when one single women does not fit [b']a man's[/b] ideals of perfection, it is the fault of all women? As if men don't have a part to play in that one. Since when is the universe phallocentric?? Threaten her with becoming an old cat lady. Taking the frustrations out much? There is a contingent of really misguided guys on the site. It's becoming fashionable to act entitled to positive attention from women. They pretend they were born with a disadvantage in the dating world, and the universe ripped them off. So they feel entitled to trade the entitlement to a woman for the entitlement to complain loudly and often. They are like the farm team for the anti-feminists. 1
Radu Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Just wear sunglasses when weather appropriate OP and look like as if you are always in a hurry, walk fast. Very few guys approach if they can't catch your eye or if you whiz past them. Easy. Going by personal experience, this works.
d'Arthez Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Instead of attacking the few men who actually posted here without insulting anyone, why don't you come with solutions. *checks pants* *does not discover female reproductive organs. Notices a penis* I proposed one serious solution ... to dress down. I know for a fact that it will work. So because men cannot take a clue ("Not interested"), a woman has to alter her appearance? So that the same men can complain that women do not look attractive anymore? Women cannot win. Don't like it, start the the 5th wave of feminism that changes things to women approaching instead of men approaching [most guys would support this] and then you can dictate the terms even better. Especially the lazy ones who cannot take "not interested" for an answer. And these are the same men who complain that women are not feminine enough in quite a few cases as well. Women cannot win.
irc333 Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 I suggest to get over it. It's called being a single woman. been as nice as I can be but guys aren't taking the hint. its getting on my nerves now! a guy wants a minute of my time. I be nice and give it to him. he wants to know if I gotta man. I tell him no and that I just got out of a relationship and dont wanna be dating right now. he thinks he can change my mind. I tell him you cant. He doesnt get it! other guys stop me in the street to ask for the time? seriously? I mean I'm not stupid. everyone has cell phones! they just wanna break the ice with me to get something going. no no no! whats with these lame guys using excuses to bother me? I much prefer a man that steps to me like a man and tells me his wants. at least its more honest. but I'm getting mostly guys hiding what they want. its pissing me off and I used to be nice about it before but now I'm ready to explode!
d'Arthez Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 There is a contingent of really misguided guys on the site. It's becoming fashionable to act entitled to positive attention from women. They pretend they were born with a disadvantage in the dating world, and the universe ripped them off. So they feel entitled to trade the entitlement to a woman for the entitlement to complain loudly and often. Hi johan, Thanks for the notification. It has been a while since I last was seriously on these forums. It is a pity that they cannot see that their mentality is what is holding them back.
Radu Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 *checks pants* *does not discover female reproductive organs. Notices a penis* So because men cannot take a clue ("Not interested"), a woman has to alter her appearance? So that the same men can complain that women do not look attractive anymore? Women cannot win. Especially the lazy ones who cannot take "not interested" for an answer. And these are the same men who complain that women are not feminine enough in quite a few cases as well. Women cannot win. I haven't seen you naked so i'll take your word for it, you're a male. Again, come with a constructive suggestion [Emilia's was very good] for the OP instead of cutting up my post in little bits to serve whatever need you have to start an argument. Crying tears for women is not a solution. PS: A suggestion is not 'men need to learn'.
ThaWholigan Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 I think a lot of people have missed the point. Whenever a girl says to me I just got out a relationship and I don't want to date, I can take that hint . If we didn't place such importance and emotional investment on approaching women ("OMG it takes so much balls for us to come over and talk to you"), this would not even be an issue. I think before we chastise this woman who is obviously a little irritated at guys not taking the hint, why don't we.....you know, start taking the hint? I think Emilias idea for shades are good, unless it's raining.
d'Arthez Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 PS: A suggestion is not 'men need to learn'. Learn to read. I have posted suggestions. Oh wait! I am a male poster, so you conveniently ignore them.
Oxy Moronovich Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Deal with it. Until we live in a world where the majority of women do the approaching this is the way it is. While you are not ready and complaining about this there are other women complaining that men are not men anymore because they don't approach women. Should they listen to you and not approach women or listen to those other women and approach women more? Also when you feel like you are ready to date or whatever if all of a sudden all men took the hint and never approached anymore you would likely not like that either. Pretty much the smartest line in this entire thread. Until women stop being so damn passive-aggressive in everything and start approaching, their gonna have to deal with BS from men just like men deal with BS from women. End of story. So deal with it, babes.
johan Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Pretty much the smartest line in this entire thread. Until women stop being so damn passive-aggressive in everything and start approaching, their gonna have to deal with BS from men just like men deal with BS from women. End of story. So deal with it, babes. Yeah, that's right! Deal with it, babes! End of story.
Oxy Moronovich Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Yeah, that's right! Deal with it, babes! End of story. Are you a dude or a chick? I've been wondering this. It's truly pathetic for a dude to always take the female's side in an argument but ignore the blatant anti-male bias of female posters here.
johan Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Are you a dude or a chick? I've been wondering this. It's truly pathetic for a dude to always take the female's side in an argument but ignore the blatant anti-male bias of female posters here. You have me wrong. I tend to take the side of the underdog. I also don't like broad spectrum bitterness. I don't think there is an anti-male bias here. But if it helps you to think of me as a chick, go for it. I tend not to think of the bitter guys as men anyway. So it seems fair. I'll date the women, and the grouchy "men" can do whatever it is that makes them feel content. Edited May 14, 2012 by johan
Oxy Moronovich Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 You have me wrong. I tend to take the side of the underdog. I also don't like broad spectrum bitterness. I don't think there is an anti-male bias here. But if it helps you to think of me as a chick, go for it. I tend not to think of the bitter guys as men anyway. So it seems fair. I'll date the women, and the grouchy "men" can do whatever it is that makes them feel content. So you've never seen any anti-male bias from female posters here. Wow. That's like living in Malta and saying you've never seen the Mediterranean. And I always love the, "I'll date all the women while guys are bitter" line. As if bitter guys don't get women. I know plenty of misogynists who are playboys. Two popular examples of notorious playboys who were misogynists are Ian Fleming (the author of James Bond) and Frank Sinatra. I'm not sure if it's wise for a guy to keep deluding himself that sticking up for women on the internet every chance he gets will get him laid.
johan Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 No. No bias. Read Woggle's threads if you want proof. I don't stick up for women on the internet trying to get laid. I don't stick up for women really at all. I just don't like the mentality of the self-appointed male "victims" that crawl all over this site. If anyone should have problems with women, I fit the bill. I don't have problems. I think guys should avoid whining whenever possible, or at least show some stoicism. Toughen up. Quit blaming the world for their own attitude problems. The original poster has a right to get irritated if she feels harassed. It's her right. Guys often lack tact. I've seen it. I've done it. 2
TheSingleGuy Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 I would really like to know where you are, who your with and how your dressed when the "annoying" guys approach you and won't take no for an answer. I mean, if your a waitress at Hooters, yes, that's gonna happen. If you are hanging out in bars when this happens, this makes sense. If you are seated in the restaurant area with several female friends when this happens, that's another story. How many times a day or week are you encountering this? I guarantee, there are a lot of things you can do to make yourself less approachable. Something tells me you want to be approached and enjoy the attention and this thread is a reverse-psychology thing to boost your own ego, again.
Eternal Sunshine Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 One of the guys that has the right attitude on here is TheWholigan. Check out his posts if you want some tips. 1
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