Eddie Edirol Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Its why i always hated the whole wooing and courting thing..its basically the Man trying to prove himself to the women that hes worthy whle making her feel like shes the special one in the relationship while she sits back and judges if his good enough.. Wrong, you didnt comprehend anything in Quiet stroms post.
Woggle Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 This is why I roll my eyes when women complain how there are no good men left and how hard it is to find one. 2
Eddie Edirol Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Bad Boys make a woman feel desired, Nice guys make a woman feel stalked. Does that help anybody at all?
persevere Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 This is why I roll my eyes when women complain how there are no good men left and how hard it is to find one. True. Meanwhile, they've left behind the nice ones behind, in a wrecking yard, in favor of guys who treat them like dirt. "Just another nice guy", I've heard before. Perhaps it's one of the reasons divorce rates are over 50%?
verhrzn Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 This is why I roll my eyes when women complain how there are no good men left and how hard it is to find one. Yeah, the women complaining about how there are no good men left almost balances out all the nice guys complaining about how women won't date them. Except the nice guys are completely ignoring the fat/ugly/Nice Women, who would date them. I know, because I sit across from Nice Guys in bars as they whine about how the really hot girl just won't pay them any attention, after I've been feverishly flirting and paying attention to them for over an hour. It's all just a fun cycle... Hot guys ignore the Hot Women, Hot Women ignore the Nice Guys, Nice Guys ignore the Nice Women. 1
somedude81 Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 No, purposefully play the dog and pony show. Many men think if they are a "good person" that entitles them to a chick. Nope. It's not a stretch of the imagination to understand that an inferior product will beat out a superior product, as long as the marketing is sufficiently better. Learn the system, use every advantage you have. I got no idea what you mean. No, you need to realize and accept the fact that women are inferior and illogical creatures compared to men. Once you do that, you will naturally and instinctively start being an ******* to them. They will interpret it as you being unpredictable and having lots of options and their attraction will multiply. It's not rocket science. So believe that women are scum, and I will naturally treat them that way? Should I keep my pimp-hand strong? Yeah, the women complaining about how there are no good men left almost balances out all the nice guys complaining about how women won't date them. Except the nice guys are completely ignoring the fat/ugly/Nice Women, who would date them. Just because a woman is fat or ugly, doesn't make her nice
verhrzn Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Just because a woman is fat or ugly, doesn't make her nice Just because a guy is ignored by women, or is a doormat, doesn't make him nice. 4
d'Arthez Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Perhaps hoping against the odds: Heartless Bitches International - "Nice Guys = BLEAH!" People, get a clue.
somedude81 Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Just because a guy is ignored by women, or is a doormat, doesn't make him nice. And I never believed it did. The whole nice guy vs. jerk thing, is because guys see men who are disrespectful and rude to women, hooking up with them. The guys who aren't rude to women and know they never could be like the jerks, think of themselves as nice. And for some reason, women ignore the guys who don't act like jerks. In other words, being ignored by women doesn't make a guy nice, but if he is nice, he'll get ignored.
d'Arthez Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 In other words, being ignored by women doesn't make a guy nice, but if he is nice, he'll get ignored. Just because you believe that does not make it true.
verhrzn Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Perhaps hoping against the odds: Heartless Bitches International - "Nice Guys = BLEAH!" People, get a clue. Hm.. I think I'm the girl version of the Nice Guy to some extent. Interesting.
somedude81 Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Just because you believe that does not make it true. Just my life experience and those of my many other men Ms. BDSM Duck.
joystickd Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Because I always insist on paying. This forum has convinced me that any woman who doesn't pay for her own date is considered a gold-digger hussy who will burn in hell, so now I make a special point of forcing the issue of paying for the guy if I'm interested in him. Why the fear of making it formal?? If you want to show you're interested, you probably SHOULD be a little formal, to show that you're interested... "casual" equals "friend." It's like the difference of me showing up to an event in nice clothes and make-up, or sweat pants and wet hair. One says "date," and the other says "casual." You shouldn't worry about being a golddigger for not paying the date. If a man asks you out he should pay because he is offering to show you a good time. Any guy that thinks that really need to figure out the workings of a golddigger
joystickd Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 So what's the answer then? Purposefully being an assh*le? No you don't have to be that. All you need to do is understand 3 things. 1. You don't need women for happiness or boost of self esteem 2. You are the prize. A woman should feel honored to be spending time with you 3. Dating women is not a logical process. You will have the edge you need to get women. Trust me once you get that you are not an assh*le 3
Author Theniceguy24 Posted May 11, 2012 Author Posted May 11, 2012 Nice to see such discussion on this matter, clearly I am not the only one in this situation.
persevere Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 No you don't have to be that. All you need to do is understand 3 things. 1. You don't need women for happiness or boost of self esteem 2. You are the prize. A woman should feel honored to be spending time with you 3. Dating women is not a logical process. You will have the edge you need to get women. Trust me once you get that you are not an assh*le Good points. Especially #3. It is entirely illogical. You can't rationalize nor analyze dating, while expecting to fully understand the woman's emotional side of it.
Teknoe Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 So I would like to announce right here, that I am SICK and TIRED of being the nice guy who finishes last, Sorry if I hate one night stands and sorry if I respect girls, but maybe It's time for me to change my perspective. A. It's OK to be sick of "being too nice" B. You may want to rethink your last statement. While I'm not advising you to be a doormat, you also don't have be mean on purpose, either. There is a happy middle ground; you just need to find that balance C. Read "Too Nice For Your Own Good: How to Stop Making 9 Self-Sabotaging Mistakes" by Duke Robinson. It opened my eyes on a lot of the self-sabotaging mistakes I was making. Again, you don't have to become a jack__. There is a healthy middle ground.
Eddie Edirol Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 C. Read "Too Nice For Your Own Good: How to Stop Making 9 Self-Sabotaging Mistakes" by Duke Robinson. It opened my eyes on a lot of the self-sabotaging mistakes I was making. Again, you don't have to become a jack__. There is a healthy middle ground. Just had to re-post this. Learn about how you are sabotaging yourselves nice guys! Do the research, learn how to interact with women, change your lives. 2
Teknoe Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Just had to re-post this. Learn about how you are sabotaging yourselves nice guys! Do the research, learn how to interact with women, change your lives. Right. It's not about becoming a d*ck to women. You can still be gentlemanly, but just knowing when and how to be assertive. If nice guys resort to becoming d*cks for the sole purpose of hoping it brings them success with women it will only lead to: 1. Failure still AND 2. Feeling even worse It's about having integrity and being assertive 2
joystickd Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Good points. Especially #3. It is entirely illogical. You can't rationalize nor analyze dating, while expecting to fully understand the woman's emotional side of it. There are a lot of guys that claim to have success but still don't understand that. They still wondering why they can't get the women they want and this is essentially why.
bac Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Through out my life, I have had many opportunities to be with women who have had nothing but awful relationships. I have dated people who were abused, Dated people who had a bad upbringing, Dated people who had nothing going for them. Have you dated too much for your age? Being a man-slut does not make you nice. I am confident with myself, my personality, my looks, I have zero EGO, I treat girls extremely well, I complement them, I surprise them with cute ideas and I take them out to romantic dates. If you are in love with yourself so much it does not mean that you are nice .......And you forgot to mention that you could last 2 hrs and give all them multiple O Yet, all that **** does not matter because every single time, some random guy comes into the picture, and the girl always either cheats on me, breaks up with me, and moves on to the guy who is abuse, bad ass, tough looking. Yet, and, every single time the former GF gave you the complete report of being abused, and other terrible details about the bad asses. This has been a pattern all my life, everytime I find somebody, either another guy shows up, or I am suddenly not the "type" of guy she is looking for. That is true there should be such a pattern all your life unless you are a troll that does not make you nice either So I would like to announce right here, that I am SICK and TIRED of being the nice guy who finishes last, Sorry if I hate one night stands and sorry if I respect girls, but maybe It's time for me to change my perspective. Why not if you really want ONSs and to disrespect girls? It is legal to do ONSs and disrespect whoever you choose? There are plenty of jerks. It should not be any problem to join the club.
DuchessKaye Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Women feel ATTRACTION towards bad boys for natural, evolutionary reasons, and that's why bad boys are considered "sexy"... Woman don't feel that powerful GUT LEVEL ATTRACTION for "nice" guys who chase after them and kiss up to them... But hey! Of course, I don't believe that you MUST be a jerk, or abuse women in order to make them feel attracted to you. There's a much better way... NOTE: Women date naughty guys but marry nice ones...
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