Disenchantedly Yours Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I prefer the ones that do not look like 12 year olds, thank you very much:lmao:. But more seriously I was just saying real women just seem so distant to me, and relationship possibilities seem to be somewhere around the range of 0%, I do find interacting with women stressful and strange though I try to do it anyway but it doesn't go anywhere, though this still doesn't explain my liking of anime girls. I guess one reason I may feel this way is due to inexperience a few months ago I remember simply shaking a woman's hand I don't know but even that felt strange (probably because of the skin contact). Necris, my honest opinion on this is you need to step away from "anime" and learn to engage with real women. It's going to be difficult. It's going to be messy. But in the end, nothing should beat a real human being. And if it does, then you got some serious questions to ask yourself why that is. I'm not saying everything about women is peaches and cream. It takes a lot of work, you have to consider someone else's needs, but real people...are REAL. Anime is cartoon. If you are more attracted to a cartoon, do you seriously think that's healthy?
Disenchantedly Yours Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 You're obsessed with porn, DY. Well, that's inaccurate. I'm obsessed with a culture that seems increasingly impersonal and seeped in fantasy to the point where real people avoid reality for fantasy. I'm obsessed with how men seem more prone to choose fantasy over reality because fantasy women are a lot easier to deal with real women (shocker I know right). I am obsessed with pointing out how things like porn have changed relationships, culture and what that means for hte future of people in real life. I mean seriously, when you start hearing about guys that are more attracted to cartoons...something is completely wrong there. And I think you know that too. You just aren't brave enough to say it. I think the OP sounds like a decent guy. He knows something is off in how he sees things. He needs to put down the fantasy and learn how to deal with real women. 3
Disenchantedly Yours Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Caius Ballad (mind you I don't hate women. I'm just being blunt and truthful) Cauis, I don't see any evidence of truth in your post. I also find it twisted that you've attempted to turn anime into this nobel thing. I also think it's interesting that you automatically felt the need to qualify how you don't hate women. It's hypocritical to say "women aren't "designed" to be loyal or trusting" along with, "women aren't designed to think as deep as men", and then claim you aren't being hateful to women when that's exactly what you are being. But my guess is you actually feel inferior to women, which is why you made the points you did. But any smart person here knows men and women are equals. We may be different, but we are equals. We all have things that make us difficult to deal with for the opposite sex, we all have positive qualities, we are all capable of being loyal, honest, and "deep thinkers". Specifically claiming women are unable to do these things does point to a deep dislike of women. 1
Scottdmw Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Necris, when I was younger I had a lot of the same kind of problems. I did eventually succeed in becoming more social and successful with women, but it took a long time and wasn't easy. Here's what I would suggest. You may find it easier to interact with women in situations where your mind is so focused on something else that you forget you are talking with women and just do it. Figure out some activities that you are genuinely interested in for their own sake that involve other people. This may take some searching. You have to find an event or activity group where you can really be happy going there and doing the activity even if you don't meet or talk to any women on a particular day. However, it also has to have women present and also participating. For me, I found that over time by doing things like this I became a lot more comfortable with women. I was so focused and intent on doing something useful or fun that the interactions were very natural. Biggest thing, get away from the computer! I know it's a big draw. I spent a lot of time myself on games, forums, and even anime. It's important to recognize that when you do those kind of things with your time, at the end of it you are left with nothing. Nothing good comes out of it. The time is gone, maybe it was fun and amusing, but it doesn't lead to anything else except more of the same. For me, for example, at one point I thought to myself “You know, if I took all the time I spent on video games over the years and instead tried to learn a foreign language, I would already be able to speak one right now.” When I thought about that, I decided to start studying a foreign language, and after a few years I can in fact speak French at a semi-fluent level. This leads to the possibility of going to French conversation groups where there is often a very attractive ratio of women to men. The women are there to talk to you also, that's what they want to do. It is one of the easiest social situations I've ever found. The point is, if I had stayed on the computer playing the games, today I would be exactly where I was three years ago. Instead I have a valuable new ability that has led to new opportunities. Think about that, and try to come up with a goal that means something to you personally that would be worth some effort. Spend your time on that rather than so often on the computer. Best wishes Scott 1
Caius Ballad Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 Cauis, I don't see any evidence of truth in your post. I also find it twisted that you've attempted to turn anime into this nobel thing. I also think it's interesting that you automatically felt the need to qualify how you don't hate women. It's hypocritical to say "women aren't "designed" to be loyal or trusting" along with, "women aren't designed to think as deep as men", and then claim you aren't being hateful to women when that's exactly what you are being. But my guess is you actually feel inferior to women, which is why you made the points you did. But any smart person here knows men and women are equals. We may be different, but we are equals. We all have things that make us difficult to deal with for the opposite sex, we all have positive qualities, we are all capable of being loyal, honest, and "deep thinkers". Specifically claiming women are unable to do these things does point to a deep dislike of women. Ants can't think deeply.....do I hate ants? No. Stating facts doesn't make one hateful. We male have different biology compared to females. Our brain and how we go about doing things is different. The male sex thanks to evolution is designed to be smarter and much more logical as a means to survive. Women evolve to be manipulative and hypergamous as a way to survive because they don't got the instincts men have. Anime women are structured more like men when it comes to instinct. They protect their man. Anime girls accept men even if he is an omega male or some feminine looking sword fighter. Basically the culture of anime let's men step outside the gender role box.
zengirl Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 OP, it sounds problematic if you can relate to fictional cartoon characters better than actual people, which seems to be the problem. I'd say it actually sounds like you have some EMOTIONAL attraction to anime characters, probably because you feel safe and engaged when watching, whereas you feel less comfortable with social interaction with real women. As to the 'look' of anime girls, I don't really think they "don't look like women" that much. I mean, obviously cartoons don't quite look like people, but I don't think the women look any less like women than the men look like men. I think anime drawings are aesthetically pleasing because of the big eyes, personally, but I've never been physically attracted to a cartoon. Ants can't think deeply.....do I hate ants? No. Stating facts doesn't make one hateful. We male have different biology compared to females. Our brain and how we go about doing things is different. The male sex thanks to evolution is designed to be smarter and much more logical as a means to survive. Women evolve to be manipulative and hypergamous as a way to survive because they don't got the instincts men have. Anime women are structured more like men when it comes to instinct. They protect their man. Anime girls accept men even if he is an omega male or some feminine looking sword fighter. Basically the culture of anime let's men step outside the gender role box. Your assertion is supported by no facts: neither cognitive scores, nor neurological findings, nor anything else. All human beings are capable of a relatively high level of cognitive functions, and there is a great deal of uniqueness, individuality, and even change in the variations of cognitive functions among individuals. There are slight variations between the averages of males and females, generally, in specific areas of cognitive function (i.e. different kinds of intelligences), but they are really very slight and the range of cognitive functions and IQ is fairly equivalent for each gender. At any rate, there are also some hardcore bitches in anime and some sweethearts, and few anime characters (male or female) are like anyone in real life, regardless of gender. 1
pink_sugar Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 I don't know I'm starting to feel like anime women are more attractive than real-life women, plus I don't feel as bad looking at them, unfortunately they do not exist making them unattainable but at the same time it seems that having a relationship with a real-life woman is almost just as unattainable and as the years go by more and more unattainable:(. Is this normal? What are your thoughts? Anime women are meant to look unrealistic and you won't find a size zero with size D tits in real life. I agree, you'd better take a break from the computer so this won't ruin your chances with real women. I used to find anime guys cute....when I was in middle school. 1
Caius Ballad Posted May 10, 2012 Posted May 10, 2012 OP, it sounds problematic if you can relate to fictional cartoon characters better than actual people, which seems to be the problem. I'd say it actually sounds like you have some EMOTIONAL attraction to anime characters, probably because you feel safe and engaged when watching, whereas you feel less comfortable with social interaction with real women. As to the 'look' of anime girls, I don't really think they "don't look like women" that much. I mean, obviously cartoons don't quite look like people, but I don't think the women look any less like women than the men look like men. I think anime drawings are aesthetically pleasing because of the big eyes, personally, but I've never been physically attracted to a cartoon. Your assertion is supported by no facts: neither cognitive scores, nor neurological findings, nor anything else. All human beings are capable of a relatively high level of cognitive functions, and there is a great deal of uniqueness, individuality, and even change in the variations of cognitive functions among individuals. There are slight variations between the averages of males and females, generally, in specific areas of cognitive function (i.e. different kinds of intelligences), but they are really very slight and the range of cognitive functions and IQ is fairly equivalent for each gender. At any rate, there are also some hardcore bitches in anime and some sweethearts, and few anime characters (male or female) are like anyone in real life, regardless of gender. Ok fine, Tell me where are the females building houses? How about technology? All those streets are made by men. The very idea of cars, bikes and planes were invented by men. EVERYTHING IS MAN MADE! Women have done beside popping kids out? The world changes and grows because of men. The only reason feminism exist is because beta males in power allow it. The only reason women can join the service is because men allow it. Let's be honest, Female police officers are pathetically weak compared to men. They aren't even threatening to the criminals and most female cops call for MALE back up. Society pities women so the men in charge allowed you to join the big boys just so you inferior lifeforms/women can feel better about yourselves. That my dear is the brutal cold harsh truth about female existence. Prove yourselves without the government or feminists backing you up and maybe men WILL SEE YOU AS EQUAL.
Author Necris Posted May 12, 2012 Author Posted May 12, 2012 Anime women are meant to look unrealistic and you won't find a size zero with size D tits in real life. I agree, you'd better take a break from the computer so this won't ruin your chances with real women. I used to find anime guys cute....when I was in middle school. Like Zen said while this may sound wierd but I'm actually not talking about just physical attraction but emotional as well, unfortunately they aren't real but I guess since real women seem so distant to me I feel this way.
Quiet Storm Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Feel like anime women are more attractive than real women Alls I got to say (after I've had 2 1/2 Captain & diet cokes and waiting for my husband to get out of the shower) is that you don't know what you're missing, dude. Anime chicks are fake. Let's see what they can do for you. 1
udolipixie Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Like Zen said while this may sound wierd but I'm actually not talking about just physical attraction but emotional as well, unfortunately they aren't real but I guess since real women seem so distant to me I feel this way. As you stated you have no friends it's interesting that your focus is on gals being distant rather than people seem so distant to you. If you're content and happy with the way your life is as is continue doing developing and fostering your physical and emotional attraction to anime gals. You can even have a real doll made to look like your favorite character or mix and match of your favorites. If you're not content or happy I highly suggest perhaps try looking at gals as human beings not outlets to service, please, and placate you to coddle your emotional well-being. Try developing friendships with both guys and gals as well as brushing on learning basic social and conversational skills as to me while pushing yourself to socialize is helpful it would likely be more helpful to have a bit of knowledge and tools. 1
ThaWholigan Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Alls I got to say (after I've had 2 1/2 Captain & diet cokes and waiting for my husband to get out of the shower) is that you don't know what you're missing, dude. Anime chicks are fake. Let's see what they can do for you. Well he talks as though he will never actually experiences what he's missing, therein lies his problem and why he feels more connected to anime women, despite the fact that they are even more unattainable than the real women he meets. Basically retreating into fantasy for fear of reality. Your imagination can play tricks on you, make you scared of something that even the most basic individuals can do with ease. I know all too well . 1
FrustratedStandards Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 Well of course! Anime women have waists, unlike 70% of the worlds population.
ThaWholigan Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 As you stated you have no friends it's interesting that your focus is on gals being distant rather than people seem so distant to you. If you're content and happy with the way your life is as is continue doing developing and fostering your physical and emotional attraction to anime gals. You can even have a real doll made to look like your favorite character or mix and match of your favorites. If you're not content or happy I highly suggest perhaps try looking at gals as human beings not outlets to service, please, and placate you to coddle your emotional well-being. Try developing friendships with both guys and gals as well as brushing on learning basic social and conversational skills as to me while pushing yourself to socialize is helpful it would likely be more helpful to have a bit of knowledge and tools. ^This, PLUS Try not to think about it too much. I mean, it's important, but at the same time don't make it like life and death and then get scared and nervous. Try to have fun when you're socializing, it's the best way to make friends. Make people smile and have fun with you too.
Author Necris Posted May 12, 2012 Author Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) *delete*.............. Edited May 12, 2012 by Necris
Author Necris Posted May 12, 2012 Author Posted May 12, 2012 As you stated you have no friends it's interesting that your focus is on gals being distant rather than people seem so distant to you. If you're content and happy with the way your life is as is continue doing developing and fostering your physical and emotional attraction to anime gals. You can even have a real doll made to look like your favorite character or mix and match of your favorites. If you're not content or happy I highly suggest perhaps try looking at gals as human beings not outlets to service, please, and placate you to coddle your emotional well-being. Try developing friendships with both guys and gals as well as brushing on learning basic social and conversational skills as to me while pushing yourself to socialize is helpful it would likely be more helpful to have a bit of knowledge and tools. Real dolls creep me out What makes you think I treat or think of women as objects or "outlets to service"? I just want a relationship. As for social skill that's extremely difficult to improve and I already have basic social and conversational skills I'm not mentally retarded, but advanced social skill beyond carrying conversations or showing manners is what is difficult. I can speak to women and other people in general but getting a woman to think of me as a romantic partner, impossible, even simply making friends with women (I usually don't get much out of being friends with women though) or men is difficult but it doesn't seem impossible since I've had friends before.
udolipixie Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 That you think of gals as objects or outlets to service your emotional well being is a possiblility to me as you seemed focused on that gals seem distant to you rather than people, that you developed an alternative physical/emotional outlet for gals while I'm not seeing one for people in general (?), and the application of unattainable. Generally in my experience people tend to view others as objects or outlets to suit their needs, wants, and desires particularly those that are prone to fantasies and alternative fixations. So you're not content & happy where you are as you want a relationship. Are you willing to try difficult things to get a relationship or would you be interested in a girlfriend experience prostitute or escort? Exactly what you want from a relationship and what will you bring to it? Social skill improvement difficulty depends on the person to me though from my experiences it's not social or conversational skills that tends to get gals thinking of you as a romantic partner but who you are as a person. If you're attractive, interesting, fun to be around, and/or compatible gals generally start thinking romantically. Probably best suited to evaluate what you what in a partner and the type of relationship you want and if you likely have or don't have qualities atractive to the type of gal you want. How long ago was it when you had friends? 1
AlexDP Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Ok fine, Tell me where are the females building houses? How about technology? All those streets are made by men. The very idea of cars, bikes and planes were invented by men. EVERYTHING IS MAN MADE! Women have done beside popping kids out? The world changes and grows because of men. The only reason feminism exist is because beta males in power allow it. The only reason women can join the service is because men allow it. Let's be honest, Female police officers are pathetically weak compared to men. They aren't even threatening to the criminals and most female cops call for MALE back up. Society pities women so the men in charge allowed you to join the big boys just so you inferior lifeforms/women can feel better about yourselves. That my dear is the brutal cold harsh truth about female existence. Prove yourselves without the government or feminists backing you up and maybe men WILL SEE YOU AS EQUAL. Vera Rubin.
SarahRose Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Ok fine, Tell me where are the females building houses? How about technology? All those streets are made by men. The very idea of cars, bikes and planes were invented by men. EVERYTHING IS MAN MADE! Women have done beside popping kids out? The world changes and grows because of men. The only reason feminism exist is because beta males in power allow it. The only reason women can join the service is because men allow it. Let's be honest, Female police officers are pathetically weak compared to men. They aren't even threatening to the criminals and most female cops call for MALE back up. Society pities women so the men in charge allowed you to join the big boys just so you inferior lifeforms/women can feel better about yourselves. That my dear is the brutal cold harsh truth about female existence. Prove yourselves without the government or feminists backing you up and maybe men WILL SEE YOU AS EQUAL. haha google grace hopper so what have you invented or developed? what do you do for work?
SarahRose Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 you have a car? a woman invented wind shield wipers a woman invented liquid paper a woman invented kevlar
SarahRose Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 to op, really it would be good to get off the computer for a good long time. also maybe go to some counseling.
Oxy Moronovich Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 to op, really it would be good to get off the computer for a good long time. also maybe go to some counseling. You guys are overreacting. Lots of young women have unhealthy crushes. Back when Michael Jackson sold out concerts in minutes, young women (and older women) would faint and have to be rushed to the hospital during his concerts. And this was before the internet. No one made a big deal about those women needing counselling.
Els Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) You guys are overreacting. Lots of young women have unhealthy crushes. Back when Michael Jackson sold out concerts in minutes, young women (and older women) would faint and have to be rushed to the hospital during his concerts. And this was before the internet. No one made a big deal about those women needing counselling. ....Yeah, I'm sure you would react positively to a college-age woman who states repeatedly that Light from Death Note is way more attractive than any RL men she knows. I've been an otaku in my early teens, and a pretty enamored one. I still knew how to draw the line between fantasy and reality. You can gush at anime characters all you like, but you know it's just for fun, and you'd never compare them to reality. This is taking it to a whole 'nother level. The point about unhealthy crushes is that they're unhealthy. The fact that 'other people have them too' does not make them any better. Edited May 13, 2012 by Elswyth
Els Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Instead of talking to people you have to force yourself to talk to, why dont you just talk to people you actually want to talk too? Talking to women is unfortanately a trial and error, do not fear the results, think of it as a MMORPG in the real world. Level up and talk to women, and grind up to max level and get yourself pimped up. I have failed many times on dates, talking to women, and I love having those memories because i learn alot from them. Everyone is a little socially awkward, at times, but talking to women is very similar to talking to men in my eyes. You need to simply filter a little more then you would talking to your friends, assuming you have friends of course. You are not comfortable in your skin and fear your own desires. You look a women, say dam shes cute, and smile at her if you have eye contact. Women loved to be checked out, makes them feel sexy, but just dont do it creepily. Rofl, this is a pretty interesting way of looking at it. Good on you for having taken the initiative!
KR10N Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 I don't know I'm starting to feel like anime women are more attractive than real-life women, plus I don't feel as bad looking at them, unfortunately they do not exist making them unattainable but at the same time it seems that having a relationship with a real-life woman is almost just as unattainable and as the years go by more and more unattainable:(. Is this normal? What are your thoughts?[sarcasm]I feel like video game men are more attractive than real men.[/sarcasm] Garcia Hotspur ...yup! Dante ...wonder if there are any hardcore DMC fans here that'll hate me? Chris Redfield Oh, I'm sure there are more out there but I might give off the vibe that I'm sad. What a shame these men aren't real. I suppose it's normal. There are like these little awards amongst gamers for sexiest female protagonist. But these are men we're talking about.
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