irc333 Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Okay, today, I randomly decided to go to Car Show event. Went with a male friend of mine. There were very attractive women there, however....guess what, ALL of them...from what I could see had at LEAST a boyfriend with them. Or pushing a baby stroller with their hubby next to them. (yeah, sometimes seeing a hot babe and a baby stroller can be a buzz kill. lol j/k) Or women with sizable wedding rings/rocks on them. But 99% are full fledged families at the event. I did see one cutie all by her lonesome, texting away, I pointed her out to my friend and he said, "She's probably texting her man on the other end of the show" and we laughed. I can NEVER go to an event that has actually UNattached women there, unless they're teenagers....they are maybe single, but not necessarily legal, so they're off limits. I can't go to a street fair, 4th of July Fireworks display, flea markets, antique markets, you name it....ALL are attached in some way or fashion. ALL are more family oriented events. Unless it's some kind of event that is geared specifically FOR singles, (ie - nightclubs and speed dating events/mixers)....then rest assured doing the ol ' Cold approach might get you in trouble with a man just one display booth away. lol That's the story of my town, how about yours? lol Someone DID mention to me there ARE single women in my area, but I just have to KNOW where to find them....anyone care to know what that means?
dasein Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 A CAR show? You expect to find single women at a CAR show? As far as trade shows, go to a fashion industry show, a home furnishings show, cosmetics show and you will see TONS of single women, most of the women in the booths will be single also. While you are at it, skip computer, electronics, boat shows too. 2
sid3 Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 My town has an art gallery/museum that hosts a showing the first Friday of every month. It is literally packed with single women. After the two hour event they all head over to a fairly classy place with outdoor seating. I don't attend, but it would be a great place to go if I was looking for women. I have to agree, a car show is a poor place to go with the hope of chatting with women. 1
RedRobin Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Well, you might find someone like ME at a car show, but I'm not the average single chick. Most of them are there because their BF/H dragged them there. I agree that women oriented activities would be best... Although, you did list a few. Have you tried the local farmer's market? When I volunteered there, all I saw were women. Never met any men. Seems 'ripe' for the picking. ha ha
FitChick Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 go to a fashion industry show, a home furnishings show, cosmetics show and you will see TONS of single women And those women will assume you are gay, like the rest of the men there. How about a dog or cat show? Lot's of single people are getting pets these days. 3
dasein Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 I would LOVE it if women assumed I was gay when approaching them. Guard comes right on down.
sid3 Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 You'll find nothing but women at almost every equestrian event. Not that I'd know, I'm just an average single guy speculating. 1
udolipixie Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Perhaps you can't go to an event that has actual unattached gals there because you're considering those who are very attractive to be gals. My story is that it seems the meme is guy = human being & gal = attractive thing so if a gal isn't attractive she isn't even consdered to be a gal. I note how often when guys talk about not getting any gals or seeing any single gals it tends to be attractive or very attractive gals. What the person who said there are single gals in your area you just have to know where to find them likely means is to go to events/areas that gals are generally interested in. 1
RedRobin Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Let's see... three guys met me last week. a) fundraiser for local charity. b) Starbucks (always a good place for me ) c) friend's house party... a GAY friend's house party at that. Yea, go figure. I went to support my friend, and apparently the other straight guy there took a liking to me. All three were done by working tangentially through my network of friends and activities.
sid3 Posted May 6, 2012 Posted May 6, 2012 Let's see... three guys met me last week. a) fundraiser for local charity. b) Starbucks (always a good place for me ) c) friend's house party... a GAY friend's house party at that. Yea, go figure. I went to support my friend, and apparently the other straight guy there took a liking to me. d) Sid wanted to ....... but he got left in the dust. The competition was fierce.
dasein Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Perhaps you can't go to an event that has actual unattached gals there because you're considering those who are very attractive to be gals. Sorry, that's the female MO, not the male.
udolipixie Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) Sorry, that's the female MO, not the male. The OP differs to me: Okay, today, I randomly decided to go to Car Show event. Went with a male friend of mine. There were very attractive women there, however....guess what, ALL of them...from what I could see had at LEAST a boyfriend with them. Studies, surveys, and polls differ as well as it seems in most cases guys generally pursue the most attractive as OKCupid showing 2/3's of guy's messages to go the top 1/3 of gals. My experiences/observations differ as well as many guys only consider attractive gals or at least a gal more attractive than him. Then when they consider on settling for average what is consider average seem to be skewed to 6-7 aka above average. Edited May 7, 2012 by udolipixie
dasein Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 My experiences/observations differ as well as many guys only consider attractive gals or at least a gal more attractive than him. Then when they consider on settling for average what is consider average seem to be skewed to 6-7 aka above average. Your POV is so warped and biased that when an OP says "there were many attractive women there," you assume he means he wouldn't approach a woman who wasn't "very attractive." OP neither said nor implied that, it's simply your POV, on -you- not him.
udolipixie Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Your POV is so warped and biased that when an OP says "there were many attractive women there," you assume he means he wouldn't approach a woman who wasn't "very attractive." OP neither said nor implied that, it's simply your POV, on -you- not him. It's not warped or bias when he only mentions very attractive gals as being unavailable and the only mention of a gal who isn't very attractive is a slight above average gal aka cutie who he presumes is unavailable. His statements suggest his criteria of what he means by gals and the ones he see as unavailable- very attractive with slightly above average thrown in. The only incorrect thing about my POV would be he may perhaps only be considering very attractive gals and slightly above average gals when he talks of taken gals.
Author irc333 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Posted May 7, 2012 Your POV is so warped and biased that when an OP says "there were many attractive women there," you assume he means he wouldn't approach a woman who wasn't "very attractive." OP neither said nor implied that, it's simply your POV, on -you- not him. Actually, it's more assumptive on that posters part if anything. My opinion on what I mentioned as being attractive is not really relevant to the intention of my post at all. To eliminate bias, I could say I even saw women I considered unattractive that were spoken for as well. Perhaps I could've just left the word "attractive" out of my post entirely as to not create a NEW post (or de-railed post) altogether. But that's how it seems most posts seems going on message boards. People like to create their own little "sub-arguments" that divert off from the original post.
udolipixie Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Actually, it's more assumptive on that posters part if anything. My opinion on what I mentioned as being attractive is not really relevant to the intention of my post at all. Exactly which is why I put perhaps: Perhaps you can't go to an event that has actual unattached gals there because you're considering those who are very attractive to be gals. So unattractive, very attractive, and above average gals were spoken for I'm guessing average gals were spoken for as well? If so I suggest moving to a different area or going out of town for dating options if the only unattached gals are underage. Perhaps I could've just left the word "attractive" out of my post entirely as to not create a NEW post (or de-railed post) altogether. But that's how it seems most posts seems going on message boards. I wasn't trying to divert off the original argument or create a sub argument that seems to be daesin as he's the one who commented on my response quite some time after with that's a female MO not male and your POV is bias and warped.
ScreamingTrees Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 The OP differs to me: Studies, surveys, and polls differ as well as it seems in most cases guys generally pursue the most attractive as OKCupid showing 2/3's of guy's messages to go the top 1/3 of gals. My experiences/observations differ as well as many guys only consider attractive gals or at least a gal more attractive than him. Then when they consider on settling for average what is consider average seem to be skewed to 6-7 aka above average. Well, if those guys are on a similar level of attractiveness and they're not really complaining, I don't see what the issue is. You mostly seem to have a very neutral, indifferent outlook on lots of dating/relationship issues, and favor neither guys nor girls, so I don't see why you'd disagree. Unless we bring some real examples into this discussion, why assume that these imaginary guys' filters are unrealistic?
udolipixie Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Well, if those guys are on a similar level of attractiveness and they're not really complaining, I don't see what the issue is. In most cases the guys weren't on a similar level of attractiveness though whether they are or aren't isn't an issue to me. I don't see where or when I stated, suggested, or implied I'd disagreed with those actions. Care to show me where/when I did so? I don't see where or when I stated, suggested, or implied that I assumed that the guys filters are unrealistic. Care to show me where/when I did so? What you quoted was in response to dasein's claim that only considering the very attractive is a female MO not a male. Perhaps you can't go to an event that has actual unattached gals there because you're considering those who are very attractive to be gals. Sorry, that's the female MO, not the male. The OP differs to me: Okay, today, I randomly decided to go to Car Show event. Went with a male friend of mine. There were very attractive women there, however....guess what, ALL of them...from what I could see had at LEAST a boyfriend with them. Studies, surveys, and polls differ as well as it seems in most cases guys generally pursue the most attractive as OKCupid showing 2/3's of guy's messages to go the top 1/3 of gals. My experiences/observations differ as well as many guys only consider attractive gals or at least a gal more attractive than him. Then when they consider on settling for average what is consider average seem to be skewed to 6-7 aka above average.
RedRobin Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 OP, my reason for replying wasn't to showboat. So far, none of the interactions have resulted in a 'date'. The point I was making was that I had interactions with single men! When I read your posts, it seems that you are not satisfied with the number or quality of the interactions you are having. Your approach seems to be random... ie cold approach in public, in OLD, or in Meetups. These are all situations where you are trying to engage women in some sort of public way and get them to lower their guard. Meetups can be good. Have you tried becoming an organizer for one or creating your own? How about becoming involved in some leadership role in a volunteer organization? I'm talking about a level of investment here. A slight shift in your approach. As I've become more invested in my community and friendships, I find my opportunities to meet high quality single men expanding exponentially. When I do come across a man this way, I'm much more open to engaging with him than I would be randomly.
RedRobin Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) d) Sid wanted to ....... but he got left in the dust. The competition was fierce. Sid knows the roads go two-way... There are no state police keeping you from crossing the state line. Or are there?! :p FYI... there are certain activities that occur just north of me this time of year (the place I was riding my motorcycle recently) that have parallels to a business you are familiar with. I'll wear my best hat. Anyway, a little bird told me you were 'in love'... good luck!! Edited May 7, 2012 by RedRobin
Author irc333 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Posted May 7, 2012 I'm talking about a level of investment here. A slight shift in your approach. As I've become more invested in my community and friendships, I find my opportunities to meet high quality single men expanding exponentially. Really?! Oh okay, sounds like things are turning the tables in your favor over there. You made it sounds like you're about to get the heck out of dodge because of the lack of population and singles in your neck of the woods. I.e. - most single men are married or spoken for, not unlike my community which is loaded with Jerry Springer material. lol I actually do organize one of my Meetups, which is pretty fun, it's my own game night...but more strategy related games. Yeah, I'm going to have to think of something else though. Hmmm. When I do come across a man this way, I'm much more open to engaging with him than I would be randomly. Yeah, I think you might have a point there.
sid3 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Sid knows the roads go two-way... Ouch! lol I'll wear my best hat. And I'll wear my sexiest pair of jeans;) Haha.....hands off! Anyway, a little bird told me you were 'in love'... good luck!! I am x2.....its too bad luck has nothing to do with it. Unfortunately my lucky charms won't help me now. If only I knew how to flirt:o Getting back on topic, OP I think you'll find the better results occur when there is at least some familiarity established in your interactions with women. That has to be your first goal. How and where can you encounter the type of woman you seek in a repetitive manner. Cold approaching isn't all that productive, for you I'd say rapport is your best bet. Of course keep improving your flirting when out in public. Give us an idea about the type of town/city you live in and maybe we can help you think outside the box.
EasyHeart Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Okay, today, I randomly decided to go to Car Show event. Went with a male friend of mine. There were very attractive women there, however....guess what, ALL of them...from what I could see had at LEAST a boyfriend with them. Or pushing a baby stroller with their hubby next to them. (yeah, sometimes seeing a hot babe and a baby stroller can be a buzz kill. lol j/k) Or women with sizable wedding rings/rocks on them. But 99% are full fledged families at the event. I did see one cutie all by her lonesome, texting away, I pointed her out to my friend and he said, "She's probably texting her man on the other end of the show" and we laughed. I can NEVER go to an event that has actually UNattached women there, unless they're teenagers....they are maybe single, but not necessarily legal, so they're off limits. I can't go to a street fair, 4th of July Fireworks display, flea markets, antique markets, you name it....ALL are attached in some way or fashion. ALL are more family oriented events. Unless it's some kind of event that is geared specifically FOR singles, (ie - nightclubs and speed dating events/mixers)....then rest assured doing the ol ' Cold approach might get you in trouble with a man just one display booth away. lol That's the story of my town, how about yours? lol Someone DID mention to me there ARE single women in my area, but I just have to KNOW where to find them....anyone care to know what that means?I noticed this phenomenon as well. Talking to women-friends, it seems there are a lot of women who think it is "weird" to go someplace without a date, or at least a male friend who can pass as a date from a distance. They think people will think they are losers who can't get a man if they go out in public without a guy, so they'd rather stay home alone than risk being ridiculed by strangers. So don't assume all of those women you see with men are taken. Some of them are just using they guys as an excuse to go out in public and are looking for someone else.
Author irc333 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Posted May 7, 2012 They think people will think they are losers who can't get a man if they go out in public without a guy, so they'd rather stay home alone than risk being ridiculed by strangers. Ah, that's where one of the guys that I know (he works at the local gym) meant by "There's single women here, you just have to know where to find them" They're mostly in hiding if they don't any male company to go out with on a Sat. night, usually they're just sitting on a dating site most of the night. lol Though, in my area, most women are spoken for or married. We have a joke in my neck of the woods, "What do you call a good looking woman in <insert name of Marryberry-like town>?" A Tourist!
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