dsw31 Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 But you're not an alpha woman.. What have you been hiding under a rock or something?
Feelsgoodman Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 What have you been hiding under a rock or something? I've read some of your other posts. You sound pretty beta to me.
jobaba Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I'm guessing that people like myself would have a much better chance with an alpha female since they would come on to us and do the chasing. I'm not about to go off and find some, but I was just curious, as it's nice to have it as an option. Or then again maybe I would go off and find some, just to see if any would show any interest in me and ask for my number. Dude... If women have not come up to you in all your years and shown unmistakeable aggressive interest in you ... it will likely not be happening for the remainder of your years. I got that tidbit from a gay man who was interested in me when I was around 20 years old ... and it has held up in the many years since then. You need to make the first movie. 1
Woggle Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I really love how some women all of a sudden care about gender roles when it suits them. They scream about double standards and being independent but as soon as they have to take a risk to their ego all of a sudden it is not natural because they are female. 4
FrustratedStandards Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 ^^ Just because women want independence and equality doesn't mean they want to change absolutely EVERYTHING that has to do with gender roles. I still can't believe people don't get this. So now that a woman doesn't want to be a housewife she isn't allowed to expect a man to chase after her? Seriously?
Woggle Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 ^^ Just because women want independence and equality doesn't mean they want to change absolutely EVERYTHING that has to do with gender roles. I still can't believe people don't get this. So now that a woman doesn't want to be a housewife she isn't allowed to expect a man to chase after her? Seriously? If I have to chase after her she should cook for me and make me feel like the man. It's only fair. She has to give me something as well. 2
FrustratedStandards Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 If I have to chase after her she should cook for me and make me feel like the man. It's only fair. She has to give me something as well. Exactly, so why are you guys complaining that you don't wanna chase when the woman does the cooking and other such things? That's why I get irritated when men complain about chasing.
Woggle Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Exactly, so why are you guys complaining that you don't wanna chase when the woman does the cooking and other such things? That's why I get irritated when men complain about chasing. The thing is that I don't expect a woman to be my personal maid but at the same time I don't want her to only want the traditional gender roles that benefit her. I am not one of these men that thinks the housework is all her responsibility so I am not a hypocrite about it. I wish women would just admit that they don't want to deal with rejection and that is why they have this man just do the chasing mentality. 2
FrustratedStandards Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 The thing is that I don't expect a woman to be my personal maid but at the same time I don't want her to only want the traditional gender roles that benefit her. I am not one of these men that thinks the housework is all her responsibility so I am not a hypocrite about it. I wish women would just admit that they don't want to deal with rejection and that is why they have this man just do the chasing mentality. It has nothing to do with rejection. Males chase, females propagate. It's a little more complicated with social paradigms and such, but that's what it is. A woman chasing a man for his seed? Does this sound odd to anyone else? 1
betterdeal Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 You will meet these alpha women not on the internet. Try ... anywhere. Get off the computer and out of your house. Car parks, fields, woods, pubs, morgues, churches, supermarkets, take aways, petrol stations, just about anywhere outside the confines of your own home.
SarahRose Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 It has nothing to do with rejection. Males chase, females propagate. It's a little more complicated with social paradigms and such, but that's what it is. A woman chasing a man for his seed? Does this sound odd to anyone else? the flowers chasing the honey bees too haha flowers will never chase the honeybees. it will never happen. when i read these threads from guys saying how unfair it is they have to pursue a woman, i just think gee whiz did this guy not have a strong male role model? it would do these types some good to turn the computer off, put down the video games, turn off the porn, and go find a farm to work on for a year or so. that will man them up quick 2
Woggle Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 the flowers chasing the honey bees too haha flowers will never chase the honeybees. it will never happen. when i read these threads from guys saying how unfair it is they have to pursue a woman, i just think gee whiz did this guy not have a strong male role model? it would do these types some good to turn the computer off, put down the video games, turn off the porn, and go find a farm to work on for a year or so. that will man them up quick Women do not like it when they are told they have to be a certain way because of their gender so why do you it is any better to put men in a box? 1
betterdeal Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 It has nothing to do with rejection. Males chase, females propagate. It's a little more complicated with social paradigms and such, but that's what it is. A woman chasing a man for his seed? Does this sound odd to anyone else? Not odd to me. Some women get the horn and want the genes from a certain guy and will see if they can get them. Happened quite a few times to me. You generally have to show some interest in them first, then the ball starts rolling. People are designed to have seek and have sex. That's how we exist. Anything else is largely a social construct. 4
betterdeal Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 the flowers chasing the honey bees too haha flowers will never chase the honeybees. it will never happen. when i read these threads from guys saying how unfair it is they have to pursue a woman, i just think gee whiz did this guy not have a strong male role model? it would do these types some good to turn the computer off, put down the video games, turn off the porn, and go find a farm to work on for a year or so. that will man them up quick Actually, flowers do chase bees. They have evolved to attract bee attention. They even give away free food to lure bees in. It's a reciprocal arrangement. 2
SarahRose Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Women do not like it when they are told they have to be a certain way because of their gender so why do you it is any better to put men in a box? because the bottom line is these guys are lonely and unhappy and not pairing up. sitting around whinging how unfair life is and doing nothing isn't going to help them 1
SarahRose Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Actually, flowers do chase bees. They have evolved to attract bee attention. They even give away free food to lure bees in. It's a reciprocal arrangement. and women dress up pretty and flirt to attract the males
FrustratedStandards Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Actually, flowers do chase bees. They have evolved to attract bee attention. They even give away free food to lure bees in. It's a reciprocal arrangement. Flowers don't chase bees, they ATTRACT bees and have evolved to do so. So you just confirmed my point. 1
betterdeal Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Flowers don't chase bees, they ATTRACT bees and have evolved to do so. So you just confirmed my point. Your point is that flowers are stationary? Having a big sign saying "come in" on a flower is a flower chasing the attention of a bee.
Author Ross MwcFan Posted May 4, 2012 Author Posted May 4, 2012 You are confusing traits and labels. As evidenced by this thread, there are dozens of different opinions on what signifies "alpha." I could tell you what I consider to be an alpha male, but that would be inane. Point being, don't try to work toward being a label. You will inherently fail, because your working definition is not the same as someone else's. Work toward fostering traits that you consider important and let the labels exist in LS debates. Okay, I get what you're saying.
Author Ross MwcFan Posted May 4, 2012 Author Posted May 4, 2012 So you want a desperate ugly chick to chase you? Yes. It would feel good to know that it is possible for me to attract women offline.
Author Ross MwcFan Posted May 4, 2012 Author Posted May 4, 2012 hahaha you summed it up so bluntly and well! It is just against human nature for women to chase. There is no reason for them unless there is something wrong with them. Instead of expecting the entire female population to change for OP so he doesn't actually have to make any effort, OP needs to change himself. FFS, I'm not expecting everyone to change just for me.
Author Ross MwcFan Posted May 4, 2012 Author Posted May 4, 2012 Would you prefer I said "lacks courage" instead of "spineless"? Because that's all it is. He's more interested in protecting his own ego and shielding his insecurities behind 'shyness' than going in for the kill. And men wonder how less attractive men land extremely attractive women. They balls up and ask. How do you 'balls up'?
Nikki Sahagin Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 (edited) Sometimes a girl can be shy and beta in most areas of life, but very alpha in that department. I'm very beta in most ways, but I have initiated the last 2 'go up and give/ask for their number' with 2 guys because I just thought 'f it? What's their to lose? They either dig it or they don't.' I think professional city women can be very alpha. The lawyers at my work are ALL alpha females and the guys in the office seem to love that. And some of you girls sound so boring. So you've NEVER, not even once approached or initiated anything with a guy? It's such a great feeling when you see a face of suprise/relief on a guy who didn't think you'd go over to him. Some of you ladies need to remove the stick out of your a**** and give it a try. Doesn't mean you need to approach guys all the time or even most. I totally agree it's great to see a guy to come to you, but there are situations where you can make the first move. You should try it at LEAST once. And when I say approach, I don't mean throw yourself at him like a crazed Justin Bieber fan... Edited May 4, 2012 by Nikki Sahagin 3
Author Ross MwcFan Posted May 4, 2012 Author Posted May 4, 2012 You will meet these alpha women not on the internet. Try ... anywhere. Get off the computer and out of your house. Car parks, fields, woods, pubs, morgues, churches, supermarkets, take aways, petrol stations, just about anywhere outside the confines of your own home. I doubt being out more at different places will make any difference for me, but I am still working towards being out there more anyway.
betterdeal Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 What do you believe other men do or have that you don't?
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