Author Ross MwcFan Posted May 3, 2012 Author Posted May 3, 2012 Ross, an alpha female cannot exist. An alpha is somebody who their peers revere and wanna emulate. Female relationships do not work that way. Whenever a woman stands out above other women, other women will do everything in their power to cut that woman down. She will be despised be her peers. Therefore, an alpha female cannot exist. You'd be better off trying to find the Lochness Monster or Sasquatch. Unlike alpha females, those creatures exist. I mean alpha as in women who go and get what they want, come on to guys, do the chasing, ask for their numbers, etc. They are out there. In fact one made a topic on this very board.
NeverDated Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Okay, but it's kinda hard to not see yourself as anything, when you've got to be something. Where is this rule? I am what I am, and you can label me as you see fit, but I'm not going to pigeon-hole myself into some predefined bucket. It's not an F-U to society, just a total disinterest in allowing some set of criteria to define my life, behavior and interactions. Ironically, Ross, I was just watching a show on Hulu called Bad Sex, and the episode that I just finished (The Spider Man) may be worth watching.
Author Ross MwcFan Posted May 3, 2012 Author Posted May 3, 2012 Where is this rule? I am what I am, and you can label me as you see fit, but I'm not going to pigeon-hole myself into some predefined bucket. It's not an F-U to society, just a total disinterest in allowing some set of criteria to define my life, behavior and interactions. Ironically, Ross, I was just watching a show on Hulu called Bad Sex, and the episode that I just finished (The Spider Man) may be worth watching. But by doing that how can you work towards becoming alpha if you don't admit to yourself first that you're beta? I could try to always force myself to ignore what I am and what I'm not, but it'd be very hard and draining. When you're aware of something, you're aware of something.
Oxy Moronovich Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 I mean alpha as in women who go and get what they want, come on to guys, do the chasing, ask for their numbers, etc. They are out there. In fact one made a topic on this very board. Do you mean that thread by dwwj or whatever her name is? She's an attention whore. Her definition of an alpha female does not exist. The only women who chase guys aggressively are the unattractive kind.
Author Ross MwcFan Posted May 3, 2012 Author Posted May 3, 2012 Do you mean that thread by dwwj or whatever her name is? She's an attention whore. Her definition of an alpha female does not exist. The only women who chase guys aggressively are the unattractive kind. Yup, I mean her.
NeverDated Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 But by doing that how can you work towards becoming alpha if you don't admit to yourself first that you're beta? I could try to always force myself to ignore what I am and what I'm not, but it'd be very hard and draining. When you're aware of something, you're aware of something. You are confusing traits and labels. As evidenced by this thread, there are dozens of different opinions on what signifies "alpha." I could tell you what I consider to be an alpha male, but that would be inane. Point being, don't try to work toward being a label. You will inherently fail, because your working definition is not the same as someone else's. Work toward fostering traits that you consider important and let the labels exist in LS debates.
Oxy Moronovich Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 So you want a desperate ugly chick to chase you? 1
Eddie Edirol Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 I mean alpha as in women who go and get what they want, come on to guys, do the chasing, ask for their numbers, etc. They are out there. In fact one made a topic on this very board. You dont want that, they would devour you alive, and you would be miserable. Also, Alpha women, if they exist, would not stop at doing all of your work for you initially, they would probably be controlling all throughout the relationship, and resentful toward you when you dont take charge sometimes. If you are looking for women to approach you, then you have to put yourself in the clubs and bars, and you have to look and be more attractive to them. They have to see you and decide they like what they see. If youre not prepared to do that, you will never get approached. Telling myself that I am an alpha male wont make me one. Thats true, but what have you done to try to deeply understand the alpha male traits, besides hanging out on this board?
SarahRose Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 So you want a desperate ugly chick to chase you? hahaha you summed it up so bluntly and well! It is just against human nature for women to chase. There is no reason for them unless there is something wrong with them. Instead of expecting the entire female population to change for OP so he doesn't actually have to make any effort, OP needs to change himself. 1
AD1980 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 hahaha you summed it up so bluntly and well! It is just against human nature for women to chase. There is no reason for them unless there is something wrong with them. Instead of expecting the entire female population to change for OP so he doesn't actually have to make any effort, OP needs to change himself. It is not against human nature.. some women just dont want to risk their egos being bruised by approaching and getting rejected which is fine.. Just like some Men dont approach for the same reaosn..and some women dont mind approaching at all..not everyone of a gender is the same way .. 1
NeverDated Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 It is not against human nature.. some women just dont want to risk their egos being bruised by approaching and getting rejected which is fine.. Just like some Men dont approach for the same reaosn..and some women dont mind approaching at all..not everyone of a gender is the same way .. We don't have to approach. A woman can sit alone at a bar and be approached by virtue of existing. Refusing to approach really has little to do with wanting to protect the ego, and more to do with weeding out the spineless and/or self-entitled ones. If an attractive guy makes eye contact, but does not approach, I can safely assume he is either lacking testicular fortitude or feels he is so wonderful women must approach him. 1
dsw31 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 I mean alpha as in women who go and get what they want, come on to guys, do the chasing, ask for their numbers, etc. They are out there. In fact one made a topic on this very board. I came on to that guy because I was lonely.If I ever dated him, I would get bored. The only relationships that have excited me were the ones where the man persued me. Ross, you seem like a very nice guy but, you need to find out what it is about you that makes you so insecure? Work on improving yourself (be it learning, working out, getting a better career, traveling the world, picking up a hobby)Anything that will make you more confident in yourself.When you learn to love yourself more, a good woman will come to you! 1
AD1980 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 We don't have to approach. A woman can sit alone at a bar and be approached by virtue of existing. Refusing to approach really has little to do with wanting to protect the ego, and more to do with weeding out the spineless and/or self-entitled ones. If an attractive guy makes eye contact, but does not approach, I can safely assume he is either lacking testicular fortitude or feels he is so wonderful women must approach him. Why do you have to put down a guy scared to approach? if thats not your cup of tea fine but not everyone is the same some of us are more shy and passive.. Its easy to call somebody spineless from your nice little perch of having men approach you and not having to do it yourself.. Approaching a stranger isnt easy for everybody show a little more class and compassion instead of sticking your nose up or calling us "spineless" 2
PlumPrincess Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 By the way, that thread is confirming what I wrote in the other thread. You're being passive and you expect other people to make your life easier. Instead of being active and doing the approaching, you hope that others will approach you and the probability for that is close to zero. 3
NeverDated Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Why do you have to put down a guy scared to approach? if thats not your cup of tea fine but not everyone is the same some of us are more shy and passive.. Its easy to call somebody spineless from your nice little perch of having men approach you and not having to do it yourself.. Approaching a stranger isnt easy for everybody show a little more class and compassion instead of sticking your nose up or calling us "spineless" Would you prefer I said "lacks courage" instead of "spineless"? Because that's all it is. He's more interested in protecting his own ego and shielding his insecurities behind 'shyness' than going in for the kill. And men wonder how less attractive men land extremely attractive women. They balls up and ask. 1
SarahRose Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Why do you have to put down a guy scared to approach? if thats not your cup of tea fine but not everyone is the same some of us are more shy and passive.. Its easy to call somebody spineless from your nice little perch of having men approach you and not having to do it yourself.. Approaching a stranger isnt easy for everybody show a little more class and compassion instead of sticking your nose up or calling us "spineless" The problem I see with so many shy and passive people is they do nothing about it. They just sit around and complain about how unfair life is and play victim. It really only takes getting some therapy and then doing something active like taking a backpacking trip to another country. I don't think anyone could stay shy and isolated after staying in various hostels for a few months.
AD1980 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Would you prefer I said "lacks courage" instead of "spineless"? Because that's all it is. He's more interested in protecting his own ego and shielding his insecurities behind 'shyness' than going in for the kill. And men wonder how less attractive men land extremely attractive women. They balls up and ask. So its ok for women to protect their own ego and shield insecurites but men no? 3
wwwjd Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Do you mean that thread by dwwj or whatever her name is? She's an attention whore. Her definition of an alpha female does not exist. The only women who chase guys aggressively are the unattractive kind. Hope you don't mean me? ima guy 1
NeverDated Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 So its ok for women to protect their own ego and shield insecurites but men no? I've been rejected plenty of times. Bothered me the first two or three times when I got back into dating. After that, eh, whatever. I never really had any ego to protect or insecurities to shield. We either clicked or didn't. You may honestly be on to something by talking about my nice little perch. It was never a big deal to reject a guy (and fyi, unless he acted like a total pig, I always did it nicely). I always knew another one was going to come along in short order.
SarahRose Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 So its ok for women to protect their own ego and shield insecurites but men no? You are entirely missing the point. It isn't about any of that. You are projecting what it is to you onto women. Women simply don't have to do it. It isn't even on the radar for women to do. If we are interested the most we have to do is flirt a little. There is no ego involved in it for women. 1
Eddie Edirol Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Women simply don't have to do it. It isn't even on the radar for women to do. If we are interested the most we have to do is flirt a little. There is no ego involved in it for women. Not the women on this board. They have to do it, but they dont want to, not only because they think only the men should do it, but because they dont want to risk feeling the sting of rejection. (ego?) 2
Imajerk17 Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Cripes. Not yet another Lovable Loser thread... Why would an "alpha" female (whatever THAT means) chase you? All that comes across about you guys (here, and probably to anyone you see in person) is that you are extremely frustrated. Why would a woman be attracted to a guy who projects mainly frustration. Get a life of your own first. Have some goals. Have something that you're passionate about (genuinely), and then you can talk about that when you are on a date with a girl. (Lovable Loser refers to a *mindset* more than anything) 2
Feelsgoodman Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I'm guessing that people like myself would have a much better chance with an alpha female since they would come on to us and do the chasing. I'm not about to go off and find some, but I was just curious, as it's nice to have it as an option. Or then again maybe I would go off and find some, just to see if any would show any interest in me and ask for my number. Become rich and they will find you. "Alpha female" is just another name for gold diger.
dsw31 Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Become rich and they will find you. "Alpha female" is just another name for gold diger. Not true ! I would never trust another person to support me financially. I started my own business at the age of 23.
Feelsgoodman Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Not true ! I would never trust another person to support me financially. I started my own business at the age of 23. But you're not an alpha woman..
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