Woggle Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 I prefer myself and a woman be equal in a relationship. I don't either one to lead the other. Aren't we both adults?
wwwjd Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Why would anyone want to be told what to do? Its suppposed to be a partnership not a dictatorship or a parent/child relationship Are you male or female? Kind of a deep question you asked.
NeverDated Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Not every woman..Alpha women want to be told what to do by Alpha men. In the 1950s, women had to surpress those characteristics.That's why none of them made money.They were all house wives. Alpha women are at a spot in life where they can be selective about only allowing Alpha men to control them. This thread is now seeming to assume that being an "alpha female" is also a status, rather than a set of characteristics. A 16 year old alpha girl will not necessarily turn into a 35 year old alpha woman. Pack status changes frequently. A non-alpha female who displays all alpha characteristics is really just a b***c.
AD1980 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 I prefer myself and a woman be equal in a relationship. I don't either one to lead the other. Aren't we both adults? Yeah ill never understand any adult who wants to be "lead" it screams to me of mommy or daddy issues or no backbone
AD1980 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Are you male or female? Kind of a deep question you asked. Im a male..I just dont understand how any adult could want to be lead around like a child and do whatever their partner says
NeverDated Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Im a male..I just dont understand how any adult could want to be lead around like a child and do whatever their partner says It's not about doing what their partner says. Another reason these labels are a little destructive. The buckets of "alpha" and "beta" in this sense translate to the level of assertiveness and dominance. A "beta" female does not display as much assertiveness as an "alpha", and therefore doesn't require as forceful a mate. I am a naturally dominant and assertive person. I do not like to feel as if I run roughshod on my man. I do enjoy it when he puts his foot down, and despite whatever crap may come his way from me, he stands his ground. The entire idea of an "equal" partnership is a bit laughable, and in any relationship one partner is more dominant than the other on different levels.
Woggle Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 The entire idea of an "equal" partnership is a bit laughable, and in any relationship one partner is more dominant than the other on different levels. This is a sad way of looking at relationships. I think this is why men are so confused. For decades feminists have been saying they wanted equal partnerships and now that many men want that all of a sudden it is wrong. Is it any wonder why so many men are throwing up their hands and saying the hell with it? I don't want to be a father to a grown woman any more than a woman wants to be a mother to a grown man.
AD1980 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 It's not about doing what their partner says. Another reason these labels are a little destructive. The buckets of "alpha" and "beta" in this sense translate to the level of assertiveness and dominance. A "beta" female does not display as much assertiveness as an "alpha", and therefore doesn't require as forceful a mate. I am a naturally dominant and assertive person. I do not like to feel as if I run roughshod on my man. I do enjoy it when he puts his foot down, and despite whatever crap may come his way from me, he stands his ground. The entire idea of an "equal" partnership is a bit laughable, and in any relationship one partner is more dominant than the other on different levels. So do you let him run roughsod over you if he tries? I also dont think a equal partnership is laughable at all if you have two adults who can get together to make reasonable decisions that effect them both..
NeverDated Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 This is a sad way of looking at relationships. I think this is why men are so confused. For decades feminists have been saying they wanted equal partnerships and now that many men want that all of a sudden it is wrong. Is it any wonder why so many men are throwing up their hands and saying the hell with it? I don't want to be a father to a grown woman any more than a woman wants to be a mother to a grown man. I'm not a huge fan of the relationship ideas set forth by feminism... However, even in "pre-feminism" relationships, women were dominant in some areas, men in others. The woman controlled the household (cleaning, cooking, organization, more or less the day to day operation of the family unit). Men controlled high-level decisions such as finances, location, etc. Not a universal truth, example set-up. Neither partner was 100% submissive, and neither was 100% dominant. Each had areas of both. So while it was not a completely "equal partnership" each individual had their own area of responsibility and control. Know what I mean?
NeverDated Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 So do you let him run roughsod over you if he tries? Depends. Is he trying to control me in my domain? Is he telling me what to make for dinner, how to do the laundry, which client to take on in my business? Or is he exerting control in either a gray area or one of his clearly delineated domains? I also dont think a equal partnership is laughable at all if you have two adults who can get together to make reasonable decisions that effect them both.. See my previous post.
SteveC80 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 SO all women want to be lead like a child and told what to do by a man like a weak 1950's housewife? I doubt it Women want a man that they can look up to and is BETTER then them, its not pc to say but they yearn for it 2
dasein Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 To her - it feels boring because there is no one to meet her strength & power. I liked your OP generally, it shows lots of useful self-reflection, but rest assured, even the scrawniest men are generally capable of meeting the most alpha woman's "strength and power" and then some. The law and the better judgment of men deems that we don't do that.
Author dsw31 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Posted May 5, 2012 I liked your OP generally, it shows lots of useful self-reflection, but rest assured, even the scrawniest men are generally capable of meeting the most alpha woman's "strength and power" and then some. The law and the better judgment of men deems that we don't do that. Oh...I know! I like "scrawny",strong, powerful men too
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