joystickd Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 That directly or indirectly tried to be manipulative? What are your thoughts on this?
TakeMeasIam Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 No. most people who are manipulated are people who try too hard, give too much and hope to 'buy' affection by doing everything the other person wants in order to make them happy.
PratyekaYana Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 How broadly are you defining manipulation? Each of us is manipulated on a daily if not hourly basis, and each of us in turn does our share of manipulation. I guess by that logic all victims of manipulation are guilty of dishing out the same medicine themselves.
Author joystickd Posted May 2, 2012 Author Posted May 2, 2012 No. most people who are manipulated are people who try too hard, give too much and hope to 'buy' affection by doing everything the other person wants in order to make them happy. In a way that is manipulation.
waiting4u Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 Yep. Manipulators attract manipulators - it's like you see an affinity with the other person. You are both smart people and control freaks. Been there. Done that. Too often. 1
Ninjainpajamas Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 My thoughts on this are pretty simple...the biggest manipulator in your life will be yourself. Without people trying to convince themselves, believing in things they know aren't true or the facts, turning a blind eye because of emotions/personal goals/desires/what you think you need or want then people wouldn't fall for half of the bullcrap out there. It is only because of what you want to believe, do you make yourself a fool. Manipulators simply exploit the emotions/mentality/beliefs of people who refuse to be more self-aware and question "what sounds too good to be true" And I think sometimes with men, women make it so easy that men don't even have to try, it's just readily available. So people manipulate others to get what they want, and sometimes twist the truth or the facts/reality in order to accomplish that for the sake of their own values. 2
TakeMeasIam Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 In a way that is manipulation. well, I don't know what you mean by manipulation then, because I am thinking about controlling people being manipulators...I think the people they manipulate have low self-worth and cannot see the illogical factor of their behaviour.... 1
irin Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 i couldn't be manipulate unless i wanted to or allowed someone to. im pretty head-strong and stubborn, not easily influenced. so its take a extremely genius minded manipulator to manipulate me, even then i will only still have myself to blame for to keeping away from them.
zengirl Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 I do think manipulation attracts manipulation, but I don't think it's so much that someone who WANTS to be manipulated is manipulated. Rather, I think it's often that someone who WANTS to manipulate others is, ironically, more easily manipulated. At the same time, there's more complexity than that in avoiding manipulation. Honestly, TOTALLY avoiding manipulation in life is inevitable. Anyway, depends on the situation what caused it but the 2 things one needs to do to avoid MOST manipulation are: 1. Not attempt to manipulate, control, or fixate on other people. 2. Be truly honest with yourself about who you are and what's going on. Respond to facts, not your hopes or fears.
Anela Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 No. I've been called 'naive', though. It has happened when I was just too trusting. I'd wonder, but then think, "Nah, I'm just being silly." It's also happened when I didn't have the self-esteem to just remove myself from a situation.
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