garycoleman Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Being fit helps a lot. When I was out of shape and flabby, I got a sense from girls who I dated that they didn't want to touch me. Now that I am in shape and have toned muscles because I have been going to the gym, my current g/f loves to touch and rub me all over the place. This makes her a lot more affectionate towards me:love: 1
irc333 Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 In the reverse, does a woman have to be in top physical condition for you to consider going out with her? Good question, probably not....actually, men are probably more expected to be physically built than women, because there was a time where women....were "soft". Didn't really work out, but still had a soft/curvy figure that men found attractive. Though some of these "pin-up" girls of the 40's didn't have much muscle tone, they sure made up for in curves, causing men to even drool over them. lol
RiverRunning Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 Oh, come on. We see these threads so many times, and I'll admit that I'm guilty of the same thing. But I see plenty of couples in every day life and very few are ripped. Most are at least somewhat overweight, including both members of the pairing. Many are pretty average, some are really hot, some are really ugly. I've seen countless guys who look like they're about 300 pounds courting a 120 or 130-pound woman. Bigger guys will have less trouble in the dating world than bigger women. That said, guys are more expected to take the lead and ask a girl out. So, if you're single, it probably has more to do with your approach than your looks.
RiverRunning Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 For what it's worth - I'm overweight but very active. It's a turn-off to me, regardless of the guy's size, if he never gets up to move or if he makes absolutely no effort to eat decently. I'd rather date a fat guy who moves a lot and tries to watch what he eats than a naturally thin guy who doesn't do either of those things. Both of my exes started out in the 'normal' weight range but were 'overweight' by the time of the break-up (my first ex went from about 150 pounds to 190 pounds while we were dating...then I hear he went past 220 pounds). I was actually much more attracted when they were overweight. The first ex was very thin for his height. My last ex was at the higher end of the 'normal' BMI range and I loved his body. I loved it more when he had a bit of a belly Fat is not intrinsically some bad, evil, unattractive thing. Get more bellies, fellas!
Imajerk17 Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 In general, hell no. There are a lot of women who don't care about that stuff. There are a few women who do though, and as those are the women who tend to be the ones who are physically fit, those are the most desirable ones. Personality comes first in any case though. As a guy, I work out and am pretty athletic so I need that in a partner. But I can tell you that I have been attracted to plenty of women who are overweight but athletic.
TheFinalWord Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 I was just wondering if a guy has to be in really good physical shape before a girl will consider going out with him. 2/3 of americans are overweight, 1/3 are obese, yet babies are still being born If you want a girl that is in top shape, it would probably help. Some of its looks, the other is the lifestyle that goes with being in top shape. If you are in the gym 5 days a week and eat right, do you want to date someone who could care less? It's like a Christian trying to date a satanist!
Imajerk17 Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 For what it's worth - I'm overweight but very active. It's a turn-off to me, regardless of the guy's size, if he never gets up to move or if he makes absolutely no effort to eat decently. I'd rather date a fat guy who moves a lot and tries to watch what he eats than a naturally thin guy who doesn't do either of those things. Both of my exes started out in the 'normal' weight range but were 'overweight' by the time of the break-up (my first ex went from about 150 pounds to 190 pounds while we were dating...then I hear he went past 220 pounds). I was actually much more attracted when they were overweight. The first ex was very thin for his height. My last ex was at the higher end of the 'normal' BMI range and I loved his body. I loved it more when he had a bit of a belly Fat is not intrinsically some bad, evil, unattractive thing. Get more bellies, fellas! I agree. If my only mission in life were to bang chicks and I was given *only* the following two choices as for what my body would look like--(a) a marathon runner's body type just after race day, or (b) an somewhat-out-of-shape ex football linebacker, I would definitely go for (b). Now there are some women who would prefer the super-lean look of (a), but I think most women would go for (b).
zengirl Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 No. Frankly, I don't even know what 'top physical condition' is. If it's 'athlete level' like TW says above, I don't even like many variations of that look personally. To me, 6 packs and big muscles and so forth look alien and gross. Being attractive certainly never hurts in dating, but I know plenty of people who are overweight or even ugly who are happily dating and married and so forth.
RiverRunning Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 I figured it was pretty much common sense that if a woman's very in shape and thin and all that, she's probably going to go for partners who are in that calibur. There are still some women even in that set who prefer a heavier partner. I've learned over the years that you can't just guess what someone's preference is by looking at them. Sure, it would follow that heavier folks tend to date similarly heavier people, or that thin folks tend to stick with thin folks. I had a 115-pound guy telling me on a dating site yesterday all about how he was so into his ex-girlfriend, who was two times his size. A surprise (and a pleasant one, as I have had men TWICE my size reject me for being 'too big' for them). If you want 'the most desirable' athletic women, yes, it's going to help you out tremendously if you're in great shape. But if that's the real question, you can scrap the title of your thread, as it should read, "Do you have to be in top physical condition to get a girl who's in top physical condition?"
RiverRunning Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 No. Frankly, I don't even know what 'top physical condition' is. If it's 'athlete level' like TW says above, I don't even like many variations of that look personally. To me, 6 packs and big muscles and so forth look alien and gross. Being attractive certainly never hurts in dating, but I know plenty of people who are overweight or even ugly who are happily dating and married and so forth. This. Yeeeeeeees. I think too often people combine 'fat' and 'ugly.' They're too different things. I've seen some smoking hot fat guys and some smoking hot fat guys who were also ugly. There is a point at which the weight CAN make you ugly (met folks who are so fat you really can't identify any of their features, let alone a jawline), but for most people in this country, it's not at that level. I think people get way too caught up in being cut or very thin. Look around these threads - there are some smoking hot women and guys who have the bodies you've always dreamed of. But some of them are absolutely miserable with themselves AND their dating lives (the one thing being super hot was supposed to fix, right?). It's great to work on your body. Work out, watch what you eat and keep it realistic - depending on your structure, you may not be able to achieve a certain 'look' without surgery, if even then. But more than that, work on the things you can change, including self-esteem if you find yourself being hung up on the idea that you need to be really athletic to get a decent girl. So many people are so unhappy with their bodies just for appearances' sake. Appearance is important, don't get me wrong. But if you're healthy and you can move, baby, you've got the world in your hands. 1
Imajerk17 Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) I figured it was pretty much common sense that if a woman's very in shape and thin and all that, she's probably going to go for partners who are in that calibur. There are still some women even in that set who prefer a heavier partner. I've learned over the years that you can't just guess what someone's preference is by looking at them. Sure, it would follow that heavier folks tend to date similarly heavier people, or that thin folks tend to stick with thin folks. I had a 115-pound guy telling me on a dating site yesterday all about how he was so into his ex-girlfriend, who was two times his size. A surprise (and a pleasant one, as I have had men TWICE my size reject me for being 'too big' for them). If you want 'the most desirable' athletic women, yes, it's going to help you out tremendously if you're in great shape. But if that's the real question, you can scrap the title of your thread, as it should read, "Do you have to be in top physical condition to get a girl who's in top physical condition?" That men only go for thin women--that's definitely a myth. I'm not positive where it came from. Some guys do only go for thin women, but a lot of women want to feel "small" when they are with a guy. And some guys are intimidated by a woman who exceeds them in size and strength. Maybe that's part of it? There are plenty of women whom I find attractive who are (say) 5'5" and 170. And I would ask them out, except they have rings on their fingers. Or they are with a dood who looks like some out-of-shape ex-linebacker whom I mentioned earlier. Edited May 2, 2012 by Imajerk17 1
FitChick Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 Do you have to be in top physical condition? No, but you have to be in top fiscal condition. (too easy!) 2
RiverRunning Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 There are plenty of women whom I find attractive who are (say) 5'5" and 170. And I would ask them out, except they have rings on their fingers. Or they are with a dood who looks like some out-of-shape ex-linebacker whom I mentioned earlier. This is a bit of an aside, but I do wonder if most people can even somewhat accurately guess how much another person weighs, given their height. I find that I do decently if the person's not into exercising, but if the person exercises even somewhat regularly, my accuracy drops like crazy in guessing their weight. I think more people are into overweight people than they realize (obese, maybe not). There are lots of people I would categorize as 'thin' who might have a bit of belly paunch. I still remember laughing my head off when I read this article online from a woman more or less griping about how Americans need to exercise more, need to eat less, etc. She mentioned her height and weight in the course of this posting, which I initially didn't pay much attention to. In the comments, someone pointed out that she was carrying 10 - 15 extra pounds. To look at a picture of her - not an overly athletic woman at all, pretty average - I never would have guessed. But it is funny when there are overweight people who, by virtue of not being treated like they're overweight and not looking markedly different from 'normal' folk, don't even realize they're overweight.
Imajerk17 Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 Well, I'm not a good guesser at all when it comes to someone's weight. I just threw the number "170" out there to help people visualize what I was seeing--a woman whose physical body is moderately heavy for her height, but who wears her weight very well--due to she being big-boned and/or athletic. Weight is really just a number. It's all in how someone looks, feels, and moves.
Wayne Root Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Men who meet women's minimum HEIGHT REQUIREMENT do not have to be overly concerned with being in decent physical shape. Most short guys have a much tougher time getting girlfriends regardless of their appearance or physique. American men have shown they are more than willing to date and marry overweight women. Being too short, however, means an automatic rejection from women.
123321 Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Do you have to be in top physical condition? No, but you have to be in top fiscal condition. (too easy!) Dammit, I missed this, sorry.
FrustratedStandards Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 No. Frankly, I don't even know what 'top physical condition' is. If it's 'athlete level' like TW says above, I don't even like many variations of that look personally. To me, 6 packs and big muscles and so forth look alien and gross. Being attractive certainly never hurts in dating, but I know plenty of people who are overweight or even ugly who are happily dating and married and so forth. You don't know what top physical condition is? Oh my goodness. I just imagined a very fat girl with high cholesterol, bad blood sugar levels and digestive problems.
zengirl Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 You don't know what top physical condition is? Oh my goodness. I just imagined a very fat girl with high cholesterol, bad blood sugar levels and digestive problems. Huh? No, I don't know what "top" is because different people like different things. As I said, there are many men who someone else might consider in "top" physical condition who would be too buff/muscle-bound for me. Clearly, healthy is key. I have a healthy body (and a slim one, actually, though the two concepts are not on in the same) and I can identify healthy bodies in a variety of different looks.
carhill Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Being in what society deems 'top physical condition' definitely broadens one's potential dating pool, with said condition being exemplified by physical appearance, which is both subjective and often misidentified with true physical health. Part of playing the game involves knowing, respecting and accepting the 'rules'. Of course, one can choose not to play
Ross MwcFan Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Nope, most out of shape guys still get women, most of the guys walking down the street with girlfriends/wives etc, aren't in top physical condition. Although mentally you have to be Superman, it seems.
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