Women, if you're not interested in a guy, will you p***** not flirt with him?

[PlumPrincess]

I guess I must be out of the loop since I've never really been flirted with or have flirted with anyone offline. And when it's happened online, most times the women did turn out to be interested.

Why do you start a thread about something that you want people to stop doing that you usually don't experience?

[betterdeal]

Women and men who flirt with you like you. It doesn't mean they will sleep with you, kiss you, have your babies, bottle feed you through all the opening stages of a relationship. They might, and they might not.

 

Enjoy flirting. Once you get the hang of it - and the best way to do that is practice - you will be more attractive to more people. Your chances of doing other more disgusting, dirty, depraved or sublime, sensual, sincere things with someone will increase.

 

Being able to engage with someone at such a primal level and *still* maintain some decency is key to your happiness. It's what happens outside of the rules that's where the magic begins. It's terrifyingly realistic and where pure beauty resides. Be scared; get hurt; make a fool of yourself; enjoy it and bathe in it. Your shame is a façade. Discard it. Unleash your inner tiger, your bestial wont on the world. And do it with style, panache, verve.

 

Of *course* women will flirt with you! They have eyes, after all. They may catch themselves doing it, and withdraw, but only because they are scared. That's okay, sometimes they just aren't ready yet for what you have to give.

 

Be you. Be free. Be real.

[fortyninethousand322]

I'm wondering right now if the guys who claim that women flirt too much without meaning it were really experiencing a flirt or did they just think it was a flirt?

 

I only came here in support of Ross. I don't really expect women (or men) to change how they interact socially (flirting and such). The fact that I'm totally screwed up is on me not other people.

 

And if I suspect that a girl is a serial flirt, I just refuse to interact with them.

[Ross MwcFan]

Why do you start a thread about something that you want people to stop doing that you usually don't experience?

 

Because if someone finally does show interest in me, I would then not be able to tell if it was genuine or not, or if I did think it was genuine and then found out it wasn't I would've felt dissapointed, and I guess I thought it wasn't fair on other guys.

Edited May 1, 2012 by Ross MwcFan

[Ross MwcFan]

I'm not suggesting you care. What I'm stating is that your needs are irrelevant to people who have no connection with you so don't expect them to bend over to meet your needs.

 

I'm going to throw this personality test out for the somedudes and rosses on this site. It's based on Big Five theory which is viewed in a more positive light than other personality theories. If you can, take the test and post your results. It might help me to understand how to communicate with you in a way that makes sense to you.

 

Big Five Personality Test

 

That's a pretty condescending post TBF.

[Ross MwcFan]

Not going to respond any further unless you two take the suggested Big Five test. We're only going around in circles.

 

Who on Earth do you think you are?

 

After the condescending way you went about asking me, there's absolutley no way I'm going to take it.

 

Maybe if you were more nice about asking...

Edited May 1, 2012 by Ross MwcFan

[threebyfate]

Who on Earth do you think you are?

 

After the condescending way you went about asking me, there's absolutley no way I'm going to take it.

 

Maybe if you were more nice about asking...

This is a perfect example of how social interactions work so I'm going to provide a parallel.

 

I'm trying to help you and might be able to provide help. In other words, you want something from me. And yet, in order for me to provide you with help, you're insisting I approach you in a way that you prefer. But what you're failing to understand is that I neither want or need anything from you, voluntarily using my time to try to help you.

 

Now, let's apply this to flirtation and dating.

 

You want women to stop flirting unless they're interested in you. But why would they change their behaviour if they don't want or need anything from you, where it's you that wants or needs something from them?

 

You'll probably get even more angry at me for stating this but really, I have nothing to lose or gain from never responding to you again.

[joystickd]

This is a perfect example of how social interactions work so I'm going to provide a parallel.

 

I'm trying to help you and might be able to provide help. In other words, you want something from me. And yet, in order for me to provide you with help, you're insisting I approach you in a way that you prefer. But what you're failing to understand is that I neither want or need anything from you, voluntarily using my time to try to help you.

 

Now, let's apply this to flirtation and dating.

 

You want women to stop flirting unless they're interested in you. But why would they change their behaviour if they don't want or need anything from you, where it's you that wants or needs something from them?

 

You'll probably get even more angry at me for stating this but really, I have nothing to lose or gain from never responding to you again.

That's why these men when it gets to a point beyond verbal banter and bordering teasing they have to say either put up or shut up. They have to be man enough to check these women's BS. See there are many attention whores in this world you want to change it then men have to call them on it. The men also have to check these brown nosing males out here.

[threebyfate]

That's why these men when it gets to a point beyond verbal banter and bordering teasing they have to say either put up or shut up. They have to be man enough to check these women's BS. See there are many attention whores in this world you want to change it then men have to call them on it. The men also have to check these brown nosing males out here.

So a small percentage of men who are having difficulties with dating are going to change not only the women they're interested in but also all the men who interact with these women, the men who don't have problems with dating?

 

What's wrong with this picture?

[joystickd]

So a small percentage of men who are having difficulties with dating are going to change not only the women they're interested in but also all the men who interact with these women, the men who don't have problems with dating?

 

What's wrong with this picture?

I meant men in general so get that right, ok. I meant change the small amount of women that are attention whores. There is a difference between just being playful and striving for attention.

[threebyfate]

I meant men in general so get that right, ok. I meant change the small amount of women that are attention whores. There is a difference between just being playful and striving for attention.

Let me ask you this question. Why are you interacting with me right now? Might it be for attention whether the Internet audience and/or myself?

[joystickd]

Let me ask you this question. Why are you interacting with me right now? Might it be for attention whether the Internet audience and/or myself?

Don't even think of trying to frame this my way. You should be smart enough to know what an attention whore in dating is if you don't I feel sorry for you.

I'm up here for entertainment and to pass along some real game. Why are you even arguing about flirting? I really think these guys are not against verbal banter they are more against the attention whores. The guys on here experience the negatives of flirting probably from attention whores and manipulative women. Some maybe some women not the two I described but capitalize on these guys being naive for an ego boost.

[LittleTiger]

I meant men in general so get that right, ok. I meant change the small amount of women that are attention whores. There is a difference between just being playful and striving for attention.

 

Pretty much every single person on this planet is an 'attention whore'. All human beings crave attention from others - it's natural - some people are just way better at getting it than others. Those who find it difficult to get the attention they want are probably just a little jealous of anyone who finds it easy.

 

Women (and men) who are good at flirting have learned how to make the most of temporary attention. If you think a woman is flirting with you, why don't you just enjoy the attention and have fun with it. So what if she's not offering you sex? She is offering you the opportunity to interact with her on a fun level - so make the most of it. Instead of getting p***** off when you realise she's not planning to spread her legs for you, enjoy the interaction for what it is and then move on.

[joystickd]

Pretty much every single person on this planet is an 'attention whore'. All human beings crave attention from others - it's natural - some people are just way better at getting it than others. Those who find it difficult to get the attention they want are probably just a little jealous of anyone who finds it easy.

 

Women (and men) who are good at flirting have learned how to make the most of temporary attention. If you think a woman is flirting with you, why don't you just enjoy the attention and have fun with it. So what if she's not offering you sex? She is offering you the opportunity to interact with her on a fun level - so make the most of it. Instead of getting p***** off when you realise she's not planning to spread her legs for you, enjoy the interaction for what it is and then move on.

If you had read what I said earlier I meant beyond playful banter. Please look back and read before you respond again. I enjoy playful banter but when it get beyond that you have to say put up or shut up. You know those women the attention whore the ones that get beyond verbal. This is what I am talking about.

[threebyfate]

I'm up here for entertainment and to pass along some real game.

What do you suppose flirting is? It's entertainment and for some, real game. Game is manipulation.

 

Recognize the parallel?

 

Why are you even arguing about flirting? I really think these guys are not against verbal banter they are more against the attention whores. The guys on here experience the negatives of flirting probably from attention whores and manipulative women. Some maybe some women not the two I described but capitalize on these guys being naive for an ego boost.

Actually, some of these guys consider verbal banter and even smiling, to be flirting.

 

I can't believe the resistance to flirting. It's such a fun, simple (fracking easy) and harmless way for people to interact.

[ThaWholigan]

What do you suppose flirting is? It's entertainment and for some, real game. Game is manipulation.

 

Recognize the parallel?

 

Actually, some of these guys consider verbal banter and even smiling, to be flirting.

 

I can't believe the resistance to flirting. It's such a fun, simple (fracking easy) and harmless way for people to interact.

I don't think it's resistance, I think it's that they don't know how to do it. And consequently they may think it immediately correlates to their ability to attract women, something that thus far, they haven't been able to do.

 

It is fun when you let go of all of that though (definitely not easy to get the hang of though)

[threebyfate]

I don't think it's resistance, I think it's that they don't know how to do it. And consequently they may think it immediately correlates to their ability to attract women, something that thus far, they haven't been able to do.

 

It is fun when you let go of all of that though (definitely not easy to get the hang of though)

Considering the weird and bitter assumptions being made about women, it's beyond bizarre.

 

Imagine believing that when people are being friendly, they automatically have an ulterior motive for their friendliness, when being the person initiating takes so much more energy than being the recipient.

 

Oh sure, flirting is fun and so easy to do, when people take the stick out of butt.

[joystickd]

What do you suppose flirting is? It's entertainment and for some, real game. Game is manipulation.

 

Recognize the parallel?

 

Actually, some of these guys consider verbal banter and even smiling, to be flirting.

 

I can't believe the resistance to flirting. It's such a fun, simple (fracking easy) and harmless way for people to interact.

My only resistance is to one that push it to the limits of teasing that is all. Game is just a general term. You see it as manipulation because that is all you know but its just a general term for something. Ex He got her number. I knew he had good game. That guy could have had a regular conversation and got her number. Note "regular conversation" that is a difference than manipulation. No parallel there. You can talk until you are blue in the face. I am only against flirting until it gets to teasing. Didn't you check out my story in the innocent flirting thread. Maybe if you had actually checked it out you would have had understanding of where I was coming from on but you didn't.

[joystickd]

Considering the weird and bitter assumptions being made about women, it's beyond bizarre.

 

Imagine believing that when people are being friendly, they automatically have an ulterior motive for their friendliness, when being the person initiating takes so much more energy than being the recipient.

 

Oh sure, flirting is fun and so easy to do, when people take the stick out of butt.

There is no need to really subtly attempt to make fun of these guys:mad:

[threebyfate]

My only resistance is to one that push it to the limits of teasing that is all. Game is just a general term. You see it as manipulation because that is all you know but its just a general term for something. Ex He got her number. I knew he had good game. That guy could have had a regular conversation and got her number. Note "regular conversation" that is a difference than manipulation. No parallel there. You can talk until you are blue in the face. I am only against flirting until it gets to teasing. Didn't you check out my story in the innocent flirting thread. Maybe if you had actually checked it out you would have had understanding of where I was coming from on but you didn't.

So you're arguing for your personal perspective in another thread, expecting me to retain trivia about your attitudes and yet claim to be defending Ross and somedude who have may or may not have different perspectives? This makes no sense.

 

My impression is that both Ross and Somedude believe bantering is flirting where you're claiming otherwise in this thread.

[joystickd]

So you're arguing for your personal perspective in another thread, expecting me to retain trivia about your attitudes and yet claim to be defending Ross and somedude who have may or may not have different perspectives? This makes no sense.

 

My impression is that both Ross and Somedude believe bantering is flirting where you're claiming otherwise in this thread.

You are not worth the energy anymore.

[LittleTiger]

If you had read what I said earlier I meant beyond playful banter. Please look back and read before you respond again. I enjoy playful banter but when it get beyond that you have to say put up or shut up. You know those women the attention whore the ones that get beyond verbal. This is what I am talking about.

 

I have read what you said earlier - the problem is that the line where 'playful banter' crosses over into something else is subjective.

 

I was on holiday years ago sitting next to my husband in the saloon of a boat and I smiled at someone sitting opposite me - in response he asked my husband if I was coming on to him? My husband replied, erm no - she's just being friendly, she smiles at everyone!

 

This is an extreme example but where do you draw the line?

[threebyfate]

There is no need to really subtly attempt to make fun of these guys:mad:

Unless you're a moderator, I'm not obligated to abide by your demands, particularly since my post was general. Maybe I'm making fun of you instead of "these guys" or maybe I'm not.

[threebyfate]

You are not worth the energy anymore.

Is this supposed to matter to me? Because it's irrelevant to the thread topic and to me.

[joystickd]

Unless you're a moderator, I'm not obligated to abide by your demands, particularly since my post was general. Maybe I'm making fun of you instead of "these guys" or maybe I'm not.

I mean honestly what do you get out of making a comment to guys like that. Ones that have little to no experience with dating and interacting with women. You are doing more harm than good. They will learn eventually that you can't take advice from a woman when it comes to dating.

 

If you had some understanding I said entertainment and it was somewhat fun messing with you. I will get serious now. Sit back and watch you may get surprised. :lmao::lmao: