Sith Apprentice Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Welcome to flakes.com. Attractive women don't need OLD. Most women I know consider OLD a joke and deleted their profiles within a few days or weeks of trying it. Women on these sites get bombarded with messages and many from desperate horny losers with no game spamming them for sex. For the most part, you're just gonna be white noise unless you're extremely good looking and over 6 feet tall. Many are there for the self esteem boost of having random men message them every day.
Andy_K Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 I have had almost no success with them. I don't recall how many I've messaged, but out of several dozen, maybe five or six responses. Of those five or six, two or three led to dates. None of those dates led to anything serious. I'm not one of those "hi wassssup" kind of guys, I have a cute picture of myself on my profile, my profile makes me out to be fun and interesting ... but I messaged two people yesterday, both of them looked at my profile, and neither even gave me the time of day. Is my experience in this regard normal? If you're getting 10-20% reply rate and converting half of those to dates, you're doing pretty well. Far better than most guys. Here's an exercise to try next time you meet up with a girl. Ask her how many guys she's met up with. Ask her how many messages she's got. You'll probably find out she's meeting maybe one guy for every 50 or 100 who write to her.
irc333 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Another thing, you see the SAME faces on multiple sites...so there IS a finate amount of single people in the same geograhpic area. No. It's not normal. You only had to go through several dozen to get two or three dates. Many women on these sites are too picky. It's as if you misspell a word and they close you out. I think many are looking for that perfect underwear model, in the top 0.5% financial status.
Radu Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 I found this interesting. Alot of men DO mention what they offer but woman don't. I think woman need to deter as many messages as they attract otherwise checking ones inbox can become a full time job. Men definitely need to make a huge effort to succeed in OLD, and i sympathize that it is frustrating. It's frustrating for us girls too for a myriad of different reasons. You're an optimist, i like that. How about this, things go for the path of least resistance ... they don't mention what they have to offer a guy because they don't need to if they get swamped with messages.
irc333 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 You're an optimist, i like that. How about this, things go for the path of least resistance ... they don't mention what they have to offer a guy because they don't need to if they get swamped with messages. Right, a standard stock profile write up about how they're lookiing for a "Good hearted man that isn't a player", throw in a few hobbies and what kind of belief system you have, keeping the profile ordinary will still get a woman emails. With the amount of negative profiles I've seen of women ina serious RANT / BLOG their discontent in their dating profiles,they probably get emails from men sympathizing WITH Them to gain their favor AND a date.
Radu Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 That's called playing the 'damsel in distress', where men feel the need to prove to her that 'we are not like that !'. Now, weather she admits to herself that she is doing this or not ... that's a different story.
Wesker Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 So if you think it's a 6 pack you need for success, why don't you get one? It's within the reach of every person on this planet. Or do you guys prefer to whine and complain on LS instead? Really doesn't matter to me if I have 6 pack, or not. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy that women on these OLD's say they don't care about looks, yet that is the first thing they go by. Even out in the real world too for that matter.
irc333 Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Get this, I just saw a profile of a woman that opened up her profile with, "I want a boyfriend, but I don't want a boyfriend....I just want one...sometiimes." Couldn't actually say the things that they do, if they could only hear how odd they sound.
FitChick Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Another thing, you see the SAME faces on multiple sites...so there IS a finate amount of single people in the same geograhpic area. That's because one company owns several different dating websites which use the same database of members. People who don't know that create and often pay for separate accounts when it isn't necessary. Clever way to get your money!
Emilia Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Really doesn't matter to me if I have 6 pack, or not. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy that women on these OLD's say they don't care about looks, yet that is the first thing they go by. Even out in the real world too for that matter. Yes. I think a large % of the world population rates looks highly. Every single one of us will lose our looks eventually. Also, every single one of us have lost out to someone better looking. It is what it is.
Radu Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Except that we (men), tend to admit it. PS: I was thinking for photographing a lifelike manechine (or whatever the ones who model clothing in department stores is) and make an OLD profile for it ... it would have to have a 6pack and be obvious somewhat that it was a doll in the bio. I wonder how many 'fish' would bite.
Million.to.1 Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Welcome to flakes.com. Attractive women don't need OLD. Most women I know consider OLD a joke and deleted their profiles within a few days or weeks of trying it. Women on these sites get bombarded with messages and many from desperate horny losers with no game spamming them for sex. For the most part, you're just gonna be white noise unless you're extremely good looking and over 6 feet tall. Many are there for the self esteem boost of having random men message them every day. I don't think that is true... there may be elements that are but it's a pretty black way of looking at it. I'm an attractive woman and I use OLD. Can't say with huge success though. I have don't have public photos so I avoid heaps of messages. I stick about 10 men out of 500 in my "favourites" list and maybe send 2-3 a message or a smile or whatever. They usually message me and we start a dialogue from there. I still get quite a few messages everyday from other men, but i already know from my intital search who's there and who I'm interested in. I might keep my profile active for 1 or 2 months and then hide it or delete it. By then i have a few contacts , a couple of dates lined up, or I've meet someone in real life.
DuchessKaye Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 I've been online dating over the past 3 years and it worked for me. I'm 23 now. So, I was 20 when I started it I have had 1 serious relationship with a guy that I met OL. And I actually have some friends who married the people (men and women) they met in online dating sites then met in real life, they clicked and now they are happily married and with lovely kids! 1
Million.to.1 Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy that women on these OLD's say they don't care about looks, yet that is the first thing they go by. Even out in the real world too for that matter. Don't call me a hypocrite. I do care about looks and am happy to admit it. I am attractive and stylish and I want to be with someone who i consider to be the same. Nothing wrong with that.
irc333 Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Just saw this profile, late 30's...a lot of POSED photos of herself, (hand behind the head, kissy face, etc), pretending to be a model, but isn't one. She's only 5'6", and she said, "If you're UNDER 5'10" do NOT EMAIL ME!" In some CAPS. Funny, I had come across you profile many times, and she just now added that.
irc333 Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Don't call me a hypocrite. I do care about looks and am happy to admit it. That all depends on what your criteria are...if it's something silly as only dating men 6'0" or taller, then that's unrealistic.
Mr Coach Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Dating online is nothing like any of those romantic movies you've seen. In fact...it's not romantic at all. If you're serious about online dating, you have to accept the fact that it's a numbers game. Let me show you an example of what I mean: In order to find one great woman, you may have to date five women. In order to get five dates, you may have to ask ten women out. In order to ask ten women out, you may have to strike up a conversation with twenty women. In order to strike up a conversation with twenty women, you may have to get your message read by fifty women, and in order to have you message read by fifty women, you may have to send a message to a hundred women. See how it's a numbers game? To get one great woman, you might have to message a hundred of them. 2
irc333 Posted May 1, 2012 Posted May 1, 2012 Yeah, there's this woman online I met....she FZ'ed me....she still calls me to talk....her initiative.....she said she's been wanting to get together with me again, but she spent a Saturday with a guy she met on POF...she's been meeting all these guys....but isn't interested in any relationship with them. Just likes "meeting" people. She asked me if I've been seeing other women on POF...and I said, teasingly, "Nah, I'm not like you where I have them lining up at the front door or have a date every weekend" I was just demonstrating, women have an endless supply of dates, while only one might be responsive to me....if any , I MIGHT get a date with a SINGLE responsive woman. Dating online is nothing like any of those romantic movies you've seen. In fact...it's not romantic at all. If you're serious about online dating, you have to accept the fact that it's a numbers game. Let me show you an example of what I mean: In order to find one great woman, you may have to date five women. In order to get five dates, you may have to ask ten women out. In order to ask ten women out, you may have to strike up a conversation with twenty women. In order to strike up a conversation with twenty women, you may have to get your message read by fifty women, and in order to have you message read by fifty women, you may have to send a message to a hundred women. See how it's a numbers game? To get one great woman, you might have to message a hundred of them.
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