irc333 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Extreme title there, but it's an attention getter, I have a male friend (he's involved in a serious relationship) But, I've been noticing all these seriously hot women he has friends on his FB, but he has met them through real life gatherings. Saw quite a few pics of him with all these ladies either from the last Holiday party or some kind of holiday gala. I know my male friend through our "Game Night" group....and he had been a regular of said group. I PM'ed him and I was like "Damn, how is it you know all these hot ladies, and how come you never bring them to Game Night?" He said, "Well, they're more of a 'paint the town red, drinking' types." Basically....another way of saying they're lushes or middle aged party girls. It got me thinking about the old topic "Where to meet women?" Usually, people here have suggested joining a Game Night, or some kind of class to learn something. Basically CONSTRUCTIVE venues in which to meet people. THe kind of gatherings that require a semblance of INTELLIGENCE if you get what I mean. That require some kind of usage of the brain that doesn't involve alcohol or grinding up against strangers all night. Though this is a broad generalization, simply put you'll see most average looking people at places that require thinking and learning, while the attractive tend to avoid venues of average looking people, because, face it...the kind of people you'd be attracted to you'll find ONLY in bars and nightclubs....so why settle for any OTHER venue, right? Thoughts on this? Just something I've noticed the past few years.
pinkie Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 This can be true... However, do you really want to date a 'middle aged lush'? Looks only last so long and the drinking will zap it faster than age itself. I've managed to get dates and some fairly reasonable lengthy relationships from such venues as the local watering hole, but have found that the older men tend to be really heavy drinkers, or the younger guys are total meatheads that act as though they're still in college at 30 something... It really doesn't make for long lasting compatibility. As far as the women go... you will (on average) see a lot of attention seeking behavior, misguided feminists, or gold digging... mooching for drinks. If you're lucky and it's not impossible, you may meet a great conversationalist, who will actually offer to buy you a drink instead of the other way around. But also, keep in mind, when you see a flock of women together... they generally are out to have a good time together and not necessarily there to be 'picked up'... Just my $0.02 Happy Hunting!
Million.to.1 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) Have you thought through the fact the the same woman all dressed up to look hot, in a club, with low lighting might just look waaayyy hotter than the same girl in her jeans and a hoody at a game night? And Facebook photos? Sheesh. Everyone know that people only keep GOOD photos of themselves on there. Untag all the blinking double chin pics straight away. The "hotness" factor is surly only how you are perceiving them how they want to be perceived. I for one look pretty damn good when i go out for a big night. The next morning when im making eggs and a cuppa, I'm pretty far away from hot. It's all relative. Edited April 29, 2012 by Million.to.1
Oxy Moronovich Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Here's my correlation=the more attractive the woman, the increased likelihood she'll be boring in bed. 1
wwwjd Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Though this is a broad generalization, simply put you'll see most average looking people at places that require thinking and learning, while the attractive tend to avoid venues of average looking people, because, face it...the kind of people you'd be attracted to you'll find ONLY in bars and nightclubs....so why settle for any OTHER venue, right? Thoughts on this? Just something I've noticed the past few years. Isn't this simply because they are getting all dolled up (attraction mode) when going to bars? I rarely see girls in "bar makeup" at the office or out and about. Same reason I don't wear my tuxedo to go grocery shopping. Women WANT to be overly attractive in clubs.... According to 100 women polled*, there are 3 main reasons why women attend nightclubs: 1-- To meet men - 64% 2-- To see what happens - 21% 3-- To have fun - 12 % 4-- Other (with boyfriend, on a date) - 3% *askmen.com
persevere Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Isn't this simply because they are getting all dolled up (attraction mode) when going to bars? I rarely see girls in "bar makeup" at the office or out and about. Same reason I don't wear my tuxedo to go grocery shopping. Women WANT to be overly attractive in clubs.... According to 100 women polled*, there are 3 main reasons why women attend nightclubs: 1-- To meet men - 64% 2-- To see what happens - 21% 3-- To have fun - 12 % 4-- Other (with boyfriend, on a date) - 3% *askmen.com Interesting. The way many women act in nightclubs makes one wonder how serious they are about meeting men. They usually travel in groups, making it hard to approach them. You have to impress all of them, to get the one you are interested. Many of them will give wrong phone numbers, or at least to me anyway. I had a late uncle. A DJ, who worked the club scene extensively, in the LA area during the 70's and 80's. He was convinced many women get all dressed up to go to bars to get a sense of worth and attention from other women. For example, most decent looking women could wear burlap and a guy wouldn't care. He brought me to the realization that most of the better looking, harder to approach women hang out towards the entrance, to be seen. His advice was, if you really want to meet a woman in a club, head towards the back. The less assuming women will be there, because they not as concerned about being seen. They are just there to enjoy themselves with a few friends.
wwwjd Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 He was convinced many women get all dressed up to go to bars to get a sense of worth and attention from other women. I attribute this to the whole "Women aren't being honest with themselves and/or others sometimes" thing, that people around here don't like or get. Did the women SAY that to your uncle DJ or did it seem that is what they did? On the saying what they mean or not admitting to themselves, the poll above could be right or wrong. Another poll I found SAID the women "said" more of them were there to "just dance and have fun". Shyeah right! hahahaha Again, not saying what they really mean to themselves. So, who was being honest and on which poll? We'll never know that truth, but we DO know that women get all dressed up IN ATTRACTION MODE to go to bars, and ACTUALLY MEET GUYS there. If that was not the intention, then that simply would not be happening as much. Yet, it is. So, it is the defacto truth of the situation.... (again) whether the women honestly admit that to themselves or others, or not.
TheFinalWord Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Extreme title there, but it's an attention getter, I have a male friend (he's involved in a serious relationship) But, I've been noticing all these seriously hot women he has friends on his FB, but he has met them through real life gatherings. Saw quite a few pics of him with all these ladies either from the last Holiday party or some kind of holiday gala. I know my male friend through our "Game Night" group....and he had been a regular of said group. I PM'ed him and I was like "Damn, how is it you know all these hot ladies, and how come you never bring them to Game Night?" He said, "Well, they're more of a 'paint the town red, drinking' types." Basically....another way of saying they're lushes or middle aged party girls. It got me thinking about the old topic "Where to meet women?" Usually, people here have suggested joining a Game Night, or some kind of class to learn something. Basically CONSTRUCTIVE venues in which to meet people. THe kind of gatherings that require a semblance of INTELLIGENCE if you get what I mean. That require some kind of usage of the brain that doesn't involve alcohol or grinding up against strangers all night. Though this is a broad generalization, simply put you'll see most average looking people at places that require thinking and learning, while the attractive tend to avoid venues of average looking people, because, face it...the kind of people you'd be attracted to you'll find ONLY in bars and nightclubs....so why settle for any OTHER venue, right? Thoughts on this? Just something I've noticed the past few years. Here's another reason... They like to drink! haha At the end of the day there's usually a simple explanation. A lot of women just like to drink. That's not something that's normally a trait to be proud of once you become a grown adult, but bars provide a socially acceptable environment to drink in. Personally, I'm not into it, but a large percent of the population is. They just like that environment because it's exciting to them. If you haven't noticed, most holidays are excuses to drink (when you're not into drinking you notice how much of society revolves around the next excuse to be able to drink). Most people are not into improving themselves and learning. They may say they want a smart man, but that doesn't mean they want to become smarter themselves. Just like a lot of women want a buff guy, but don't work out. Even on college campus where you have easy access to constant knowledge, most people are busting to get out to drink.
Shaun-Dro Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) Extreme title there, but it's an attention getter, I have a male friend (he's involved in a serious relationship) But, I've been noticing all these seriously hot women he has friends on his FB, but he has met them through real life gatherings. Saw quite a few pics of him with all these ladies either from the last Holiday party or some kind of holiday gala. I know my male friend through our "Game Night" group....and he had been a regular of said group. I PM'ed him and I was like "Damn, how is it you know all these hot ladies, and how come you never bring them to Game Night?" He said, "Well, they're more of a 'paint the town red, drinking' types." Basically....another way of saying they're lushes or middle aged party girls. It got me thinking about the old topic "Where to meet women?" Usually, people here have suggested joining a Game Night, or some kind of class to learn something. Basically CONSTRUCTIVE venues in which to meet people. THe kind of gatherings that require a semblance of INTELLIGENCE if you get what I mean. That require some kind of usage of the brain that doesn't involve alcohol or grinding up against strangers all night. Though this is a broad generalization, simply put you'll see most average looking people at places that require thinking and learning, while the attractive tend to avoid venues of average looking people, because, face it...the kind of people you'd be attracted to you'll find ONLY in bars and nightclubs....so why settle for any OTHER venue, right? Thoughts on this? Just something I've noticed the past few years. Yes, bars, clubs, and lounges all entwined in one. This is simply because good-looking women have nothing to offer but their "looks" so these are the spots they go to steal the attention. Pathetic if you ask me and very tedious. Edited April 29, 2012 by Shaun-Dro change a word
Andy_K Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Ugly people go to bars and clubs less. I mean, what could be more demoralising for a fat/ugly girl than seeing hundreds of slim girls dressed up to impress and catching the attention of all the guys? And for both sexes, better looking = more attention at these venues = more social interaction and enjoyment = go more often.
grkBoy Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 From my perspective of being a former member of the club industry, I'll tell you the hot women are more into going partying at bars because they have been pampered either all their lives or whenever they lost weight and got all dolled up into her "hottie" mode. Face it, a pack of hot chicks will get pulled in ahead of lines, not have to pay cover, and even promoters will give them a free booth and bottle simply so he has hot girls in his club. Even if they don't get a freebie from the promoter, there are plenty of horny men who will buy them drinks and all try to get a number or something out of them. It's life...they are still pampered when they go out, because they're hot...and they will simply ride on their looks until they can't anymore, or they find their dream alpha male husband. In general, the club scene is a world where good looks and/or money will get you places...and being "average" or "ugly" won't. 2
Shaun-Dro Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 From my perspective of being a former member of the club industry, I'll tell you the hot women are more into going partying at bars because they have been pampered either all their lives or whenever they lost weight and got all dolled up into her "hottie" mode. Face it, a pack of hot chicks will get pulled in ahead of lines, not have to pay cover, and even promoters will give them a free booth and bottle simply so he has hot girls in his club. Even if they don't get a freebie from the promoter, there are plenty of horny men who will buy them drinks and all try to get a number or something out of them. It's life...they are still pampered when they go out, because they're hot...and they will simply ride on their looks until they can't anymore, or they find their dream alpha male husband. In general, the club scene is a world where good looks and/or money will get you places...and being "average" or "ugly" won't. For reasons like this is why I despise this whole club-lounge scene. It's a false advertisement of what's really going on in the real world.
Author irc333 Posted April 29, 2012 Author Posted April 29, 2012 It occured to me, as well....that my said male friend, had put out an invite on his FB to his Birthday party at a nice swimming area.....though I've seen the usually gang that I'm familiar with attending....none of the familiar women that I'd seen (perhaps tagged) from the "Night out on the town" pics were in attendance. So, I guess placing a night of Uno or Scattagories or a day out hiking or kayaking is boring to these women, but nightclubs are "exciting" I think they might've been the female friends of his current girlfriend, but they probably wouldn't touch any constructive event with a 10 foot pole. For reasons like this is why I despise this whole club-lounge scene. It's a false advertisement of what's really going on in the real world. Yea, before AW'ing on FB....they had nightclubs (and still do). I remember one of these kinds of women said you can put on a "persona" at nightclubs...and then when you go home, you're back to the regular you.
xxoo Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 It occured to me, as well....that my said male friend, had put out an invite on his FB to his Birthday party at a nice swimming area.....though I've seen the usually gang that I'm familiar with attending....none of the familiar women that I'd seen (perhaps tagged) from the "Night out on the town" pics were in attendance. So, I guess placing a night of Uno or Scattagories or a day out hiking or kayaking is boring to these women, but nightclubs are "exciting" I think they might've been the female friends of his current girlfriend, but they probably wouldn't touch any constructive event with a 10 foot pole. Yea, before AW'ing on FB....they had nightclubs (and still do). I remember one of these kinds of women said you can put on a "persona" at nightclubs...and then when you go home, you're back to the regular you. He probably doesn't even know them well enough to invite them to a birthday party or game night. He is probably one of their 500 fb "friends". I'm sure these hot women go to birthday parties for their actual friends.
Mme. Chaucer Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 This is simply because good-looking women have nothing to offer but their "looks" Why would a good looking person necessarily have nothing to offer but their looks? I'm sure there are good looking people with all kinds of other attractive qualities as well, along with wretched looking ones who are ugly on the inside too. I think that's a pretty bizarre generalization. 2
Imajerk17 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) That actually seems to be true in smaller towns (the original post on this thread). Where I live now, weekend nights at the bookstore or coffee shop or anywhere else that's meant for "good clean fun" tend to have mostly middle-aged people or high-schoolers. The hotties are somewhere else. In the big cities, my experience is that there are a lot of physically and mentally attractive women and men hanging out at B&N or the coffee shop at night. My theory as to why: In a small town, people tend to have been there longer--for most of their lives. So people there, including the hotties, as they have been there longer, usually have an established social circles. (Especially the hotties, because there is a positive correlation between looks and number of friends.) So they tend to have no interest in going to "Trivial Night" to meet more people. Why would they settle for some polite good times with a bunch of people they don't know that well, when they can have more excitement partying it up with their friends? Edited April 29, 2012 by Imajerk17 1
dollface07 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) well i do agree with you to a certain extent but i want to give you another vantage point because I feel im in between both of these extremes. I consider myself to be a sexy doctoral student nerd like i wear full make-up to class, get my hair done regularly, nails, wear heels all the time and even get dressed up to study in my own house and spend hours preparing my image before meeting at any academic gatherings but even though I have fought hard to maintain being taken seriously in the academic community there is some unspoken discrimination...like especially when I studied at one of my other masters level universities it was more overt such as when my academic adviser told me I should just be "taken care of":eek: so just b/c i take care of these little details of my appearance they think i dont have time to study or that im not smart or something! its true i do find the females sizing me up at times during lectures which can be annoying and I almost didn't want to respond to this thread b/c i didnt want to admit to myself that superficially-speaking i would find myself feeling more in my element in a party scene, or the mall shopping sigh...as opposed to a stuffy lecture hall with seriously frumpy girls but even with those party people I would not have the intellectual stimulation that I also prefer... Okay so my thoughts about where to meet women, well I am not sure about your age but as for myself, im 28 and I met my current boyfriend at a birthday party that i was invited to after attending a university-sponsored Game Night haha as you specified in your earlier post. so yeah i am a big proponent of games nights since people who want to have fun are there and then you can be invited to other fun events through them as well! Good luck! Df Edited April 29, 2012 by dollface07
Michael Johnson Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 I met my now wife at a local bar when she was dealing with being divorced. And guess what? She's extremely attractive and she holds her masters in accounting! Generalizations do vary.
Jane2011 Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 I met my now wife at a local bar when she was dealing with being divorced. And guess what? She's extremely attractive and she holds her masters in accounting! Generalizations do vary. My sister and her husband of almost 12 years met at a bar also. They're both physically attractive people. She's a lawyer, and he's an MBA who works in upper management at a nationally-known company. I don't get all these generalizations about people who go to bars. All kinds of people go to bars and are still intelligent, have goodness of heart to offer, etc. 2
dasein Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Interesting. The way many women act in nightclubs makes one wonder how serious they are about meeting men. This is explained by the fact that even very average women, when they say they are looking to "meet men" decodes into "meet men in the top 5% of desirability," regardless of their own level of relative desirability. As for the other 95%? They are just an inevitable nuisance, not considered sexually as "men." Thatone posted a great study from a dating site the other day where the female members of the site found 80% of the male members to be "below average" in appearance. To the topic, I do find that more attractive people are out in bars at night. People for whom sex and relationships are a top priority in life tend to work harder on their physical appearance than those who don't IME.
Author irc333 Posted April 29, 2012 Author Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) My theory as to why: In a small town, people tend to have been there longer--for most of their lives. So people there, including the hotties, as they have been there longer, usually have an established social circles. (Especially the hotties, because there is a positive correlation between looks and number of friends.) So they tend to have no interest in going to "Trivial Night" to meet more people. Why would they settle for some polite good times with a bunch of people they don't know that well, when they can have more excitement partying it up with their friends? Mostly people are still palin' around with each old high school buddies they grew up with (to me , never happened, I moved onto other social circles or open to exploring new ones). I bet the small town people are already coupled up, and the still unattached ones have the "drive" to seek out new friendships elsewhere. Single people find themselves unable to find time to spend with married couples, because married couples are busy with their own lives. Anyways, got off tangent there....my other male friend, decided to invite a recently unattached woman (broken off engagement) and another single female friend with him. He calls me up and says they're going to an event in the "big city".....we've gotten used to the commute for a social life, we have no qualms with that distance. So they drove with him, I think his intention was to introduce to his new lady friends (he was married at the time....still is, but his wife was working a diff. shift), I met them there. I meet them, start talking with them, got to know them some, one of the women, wasn't too chatty, they were both cute though. Anyhow, I went to mingle around with others that I already knew...but I still saw them both, just talking to each other and not mingle. I approach them again, and said, "So, did you mingle around at all, Meet anyone?" And , no joke, one of them said, "No, we're not much for making new friends" And I thought, "What kind of F-'ed up way of thinking." They were SO stuck in their "fishbowl" community,t hat they had no desire to make new friends. Anyhow, I go mingling around some more, then they were gone, including my friend . Couldn't find them anywhere in sight. They bailed on the event early. When I got home, and got to chatting with him, and I said, "Hey, where'd yall disappear to, was looking for you, you guys didn't even say goodbye." And he said, "Well, they were bored and wanted to go dancing." Then I thought, "and they didn't think to invite me?" THen I asked him that...and he said, "Well, they didn't want you to come , figured you'd take it the wrong way." (Meaning that I might think that they think they'd be interested in me.) So they bailed....didn't tell me, and 2 single women, went dancing with a married man. Yeah, some of these backwoods people have issues or too cliquish with their local church groups, Masons, and marrying within friends of families and such. Their idea of a social is not going out further than a local grocery store or walmart, and their idea of a vacation is going an hour away from the house. And their neighbors, old high school chums, and families are theiR ONLY source of social life....wonder how people can stand to live like that. Thus the fishbowl community. ALSO to note....any woman that's coined a "hottie" in a small town is either. 1. Passing through/tourist 2. Is married or has a boyfriend if they're a permanent resident. 3. Is BRAND new in town and realized the top 2 listings made her put a personal ad on a dating site. lol #2 is the MOSt common. Edited April 29, 2012 by irc333
SmileFace Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Here's my correlation=the more attractive the woman, the increased likelihood she'll be boring in bed. Haha what?
NYC-BigKat Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 That actually seems to be true in smaller towns (the original post on this thread). Where I live now, weekend nights at the bookstore or coffee shop or anywhere else that's meant for "good clean fun" tend to have mostly middle-aged people or high-schoolers. The hotties are somewhere else. In the big cities, my experience is that there are a lot of physically and mentally attractive women and men hanging out at B&N or the coffee shop at night. My theory as to why: In a small town, people tend to have been there longer--for most of their lives. So people there, including the hotties, as they have been there longer, usually have an established social circles. (Especially the hotties, because there is a positive correlation between looks and number of friends.) So they tend to have no interest in going to "Trivial Night" to meet more people. Why would they settle for some polite good times with a bunch of people they don't know that well, when they can have more excitement partying it up with their friends? This is true yup no fine girls in bookstores just nerdy types. Once or twice I might catch eye with a cute girl at the supermarket getting some food or in the mall shopping for clothes but she's never by herself. Oh yea & in the train station coming from work but they usually gotta cell phone all up to their noses so bla .
JesseJames Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 It all depends on where you live. The last time I went to a bar I was there for something else other than alcohol and staring at the bartenders alongside fat, ugly dudes. I play some pool with a friend, and then we leave right away. Incoming was a very large girl with these black and white horizontal stripes over her whole "shirt". She looked like she just ate a pirate and stole his clothes. If I want to go to a night club, then I'll be dealing with tech school students that still hate that fact that the world isn't revolving around them. These are really beyond stupid places to go around here.
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