irc333 Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 I am not sure how it happened, but somewhere along the lines creepy just became unattractive. For example, if an attractive guy approaches a woman and says: "blah blah blah". She will perceive it as confident, funny and witty. Unattractive guy says the same "blah blah blah", he is creepy.
dasein Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 LOL was waiting for someone to link that, such a funny, true skit.
jobaba Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 LOL. Was just about to post that myself. Well, it wouldn't be funny if it didn't have some truth to it.
mesmerized Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 How do "bitchy" and "slutty" sound in those blanks to you? Are women "butthurt" for finding those terms generally objectionable? Bitchy I don't care about tbh. I even called my male coworker today at work bitch jokingly and he laughed it off. I guess if you do bitchy things, you can't complain to be described that way. "Slutty" is a totally a different story. It comes from a huge double standard and is used exclusively for women to shame them for their sexuality. I don't think "creepy" is exclusive to men by any means but since men tend to do more creepy actions and since as men they are considered more threatening than women, they tend to be called that more. 1
dasein Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 "Slutty" is a totally a different story. It comes from a huge double standard and is used exclusively for women to shame them for their sexuality. You must not have any gay friends, nor have ever heard the term "manwhore" or "slut" applied to men? I've heard many more men described as sluts than I have women described as creepy. Oh and btw, there is no double standard in how men and women are judged sexually today. If you want to claim there is one, it's on you to demonstrate it, not just say so and expect to have it accepted. The sexes are entirely different in how they seek and obtain sex. In order for a double standard to exist it must exist between two similarly situated classes. Women and men are not similarly situated, at all, in this respect.
mesmerized Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 You must not have any gay friends, nor have ever heard the term "manwhore" or "slut" applied to men? I've heard many more men described as sluts than I have women described as creepy. Oh and btw, there is no double standard in how men and women are judged sexually today. If you want to claim there is one, it's on you to demonstrate it, not just say so and expect to have it accepted. Are you kidding me? Although I agree the double standard is much less strong than before (since people are finally realizing women love sex too!), it still exists and a lot of women are deadly afraid of it. The sexes are entirely different in how they seek and obtain sex. In order for a double standard to exist it must exist between two similarly situated classes. Women and men are not similarly situated, at all, in this respect. Yeah and I love how this supposedly "huge difference" becomes smaller and smaller as time passes and culture changes. You'd be surprised how many women stop themselves from freely having sex ONLY due to this double standard and not because of them not wanting it. 1
Mme. Chaucer Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Are all the guys who are so desperately butthurt about the term "creepy" perhaps creepy themselves? I apply the term "creepy" to people or situations that give me the skin crawling sensation. 2
dasein Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Are all the guys who are so desperately butthurt about the term "creepy" perhaps creepy themselves? Dunno are all the women who find the terms "slut" and "bitch" offensive perhaps sluts and bitches themselves? 1
jobaba Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Are all the guys who are so desperately butthurt about the term "creepy" perhaps creepy themselves? I apply the term "creepy" to people or situations that give me the skin crawling sensation. I've never been called creepy (to my face), but I have heard other women call certain men creepy. It's usually either a) a guy who is a player and hits on everything that moves or b) a nice guy who is really trying to be aggressive with meeting women. I have a friend who is a really nice guy, the most generous guy you could ever meet. But he's short, Asian, has a bad stutter, and isn't very smooth. He went through a period where he was trying to be the 'party guy'. He'd talk to all the women, try to be really funny, cocky, and suave. It didn't work. He got called creepy by SO MANY WOMEN, even by my nice, conservative friends. He was squarely a 'b' guy. But if he ever got one of those girls, he'd treat them great. Not cheat, ever. He was really just trying to put his best foot forward. On the other hand, a lot of the same girls that called him creepy swooned over my 'a' friends. Now these are truly guys that have cheated on all their girlfriends and have as sleazy stories as any guy. But they are taller, better looking, and WAY more suave. Of course, there are also women who can see and do call my 'a' friends creepy. But a lot do not. What's the conclusion? Don't even bat an eyebrow if a woman calls you creepy. 1
ThaWholigan Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 I've never been called creepy (to my face), but I have heard other women call certain men creepy. It's usually either a) a guy who is a player and hits on everything that moves or b) a nice guy who is really trying to be aggressive with meeting women. I have a friend who is a really nice guy, the most generous guy you could ever meet. But he's short, Asian, has a bad stutter, and isn't very smooth. He went through a period where he was trying to be the 'party guy'. He'd talk to all the women, try to be really funny, cocky, and suave. It didn't work. He got called creepy by SO MANY WOMEN, even by my nice, conservative friends. He was squarely a 'b' guy. But if he ever got one of those girls, he'd treat them great. Not cheat, ever. He was really just trying to put his best foot forward. On the other hand, a lot of the same girls that called him creepy swooned over my 'a' friends. Now these are truly guys that have cheated on all their girlfriends and have as sleazy stories as any guy. But they are taller, better looking, and WAY more suave. Of course, there are also women who can see and do call my 'a' friends creepy. But a lot do not. What's the conclusion? Don't even bat an eyebrow if a woman calls you creepy. Basically just like the Tom Brady sketch . Same here, sentiment is the same. I don't care anymore
Feelin Frisky Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Creepy to me means an unusual lack of connection with social graces and a propensity for indulging the self in its impulses--especially with off-kilter humor. Creepy more often than not registers as danger--the sense that this person has some bizarre secret agenda that is probably terminal. It's all about social connection or lack thereof--and of course that includes choices of dress. A person can read creepy just by their get-up and, in the case of women, their manner of using make-up. I think it's part of nature to react negatively to someone who is socially challenged--it says "defect" and that this person doesn't get to spread any genes.
threebyfate Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Are all the guys who are so desperately butthurt about the term "creepy" perhaps creepy themselves? I apply the term "creepy" to people or situations that give me the skin crawling sensation.Yup, we share the same meaning. Frankly, some Internet guys give me that creeped out sensation.
jobaba Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Basically just like the Tom Brady sketch . Same here, sentiment is the same. I don't care anymore There's a caveat though. There are women who don't go for those good looking generically suave types as I mentioned above. Though rare. The first time I was out with my last GF, it was with one of my 'a' friends. And to be honest, he was charming the bejeesus out of her. And this guy was a true slut. He totally would have slept with her. But she went back with me that night. And those are the types of girls I like. Those who can see a real good looking guy and be like, "Meh." Because that's the way I operate too. The fact that she was bat crazy is irrelevant to this thread. It just shocks me how many women of all genres, looks, and personalities fall for the 'player type' guys. It's a high, high majority.
SJC2008 Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 We live in a desensitized society so a word like that or loser from the other thread gets thrown around quick, especially by in crowd college aged woman. Men say mean things like last call and muffin top.
ThaWholigan Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 There's a caveat though. There are women who don't go for those good looking generically suave types as I mentioned above. Though rare. The first time I was out with my last GF, it was with one of my 'a' friends. And to be honest, he was charming the bejeesus out of her. And this guy was a true slut. He totally would have slept with her. But she went back with me that night. And those are the types of girls I like. Those who can see a real good looking guy and be like, "Meh." Because that's the way I operate too. The fact that she was bat crazy is irrelevant to this thread. It just shocks me how many women of all genres, looks, and personalities fall for the 'player type' guys. It's a high, high majority. Really? It doesn't shock me at all. I understand perfectly why. It seems that the guys who are seen as creepy by girls are guys who are somehow intrinsically ashamed of their sexual desires. I was going to say ashamed of their masculinity too, but I don't think the two are completely tied together, although it's probably case of that. Those guys who are players might have their sense of morality questioned but they own their sexual desire and they own their identity completely. Or at least they appear to and are pretty good at putting up facades. Some girls will be PC and call them creepy but generally they admire that they seem to not be anxious around them. To add to your other comments, I know plenty of girls who aren't straight away attracted to good looking guys, but in some cases, it's simply that they aren't attracted to those guys physically for some reason. Has been the case. One girl actually said of me that I was "too pretty". I didn't know whether to be flattered or insulted at the time. In the end I was neither 1
jobaba Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Really? It doesn't shock me at all. I understand perfectly why. It seems that the guys who are seen as creepy by girls are guys who are somehow intrinsically ashamed of their sexual desires. I was going to say ashamed of their masculinity too, but I don't think the two are completely tied together, although it's probably case of that. Those guys who are players might have their sense of morality questioned but they own their sexual desire and they own their identity completely. Or at least they appear to and are pretty good at putting up facades. Some girls will be PC and call them creepy but generally they admire that they seem to not be anxious around them. Yea, that does make some sense to me. Women appreciate sexual honesty perhaps. In any case, I'm no longer as timid to show my interest, so that doesn't really bother me as much. I guess I'm kind of a hypocrite, because I've adopted a lot of the 'player' attitudes myself, minus the cheating though.
aj22one Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Nah, us guys have to own up to our sexual desires. Not doing so in order to look better to women is kind of manipulative in and of itself. Women tend to pick up on that and they're not interested. 1
OliveOyl Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 To me, "creepy" includes weird to weird/sinistre. Yeah, this is how I interpret "creepy." Creepy is not specifically unattractive, but it reflects something or someone who is odd, off-kilter, unbalanced, with potential danger or craziness lurking underneath. Stalkers are creepy. People (both men and women) who seem okay on the surface but you sense are ready to implode at any moment are creepy. I would not call someone who was unattractive "creepy." They would just be unattractive, homely, or "not my type."
ThaWholigan Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Yea, that does make some sense to me. Women appreciate sexual honesty perhaps. In any case, I'm no longer as timid to show my interest, so that doesn't really bother me as much. I guess I'm kind of a hypocrite, because I've adopted a lot of the 'player' attitudes myself, minus the cheating though. Yeah, the whole player thing has taken on many meanings it seems. To me, there are different types of players, and most I've known are typically rather honest about their exploits rather than secretive and deceitful. Player "attitudes" aren't exclusive to players I find, there are just nuances in their behaviors that can actually be adapted and taken on in your own natural behavior. Many people seem to think that charisma is something you are born with, but I'm of the opinion that charisma can certainly be improved in an individual, although I can concede that there are some out there who are innately able to cultivate a level of personal magnetism quite easily.
Els Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Meh, it's just a word. It doesn't matter than it's applied more to men than to women (which I think it is). Just societal norms. The word 'slutty' is applied a helluva lot more to women than men, although definitely as many men as women embody the behaviour it describes.
Eternal Sunshine Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Creepy to me is stalkerish in a romantic contest. It's not about finding a guy unattractive. I have rejected guys I didn't find attractive at all without thinking of them as creepy. It's about not knowing or deliberately ignoring boundaries with repeated pursual after rejection. It can also be an instinctive reaction to someone's voice, look in the eyes or similar...something undefinable that makes your skin crawl (as TBF put it). 1
Emilia Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Anyway, I just wanted your thoughts on the word in a dating context. What would something have to be to justify the word "creepy" in your opinion? Examples or personal definitions or expansions on dictionary definitions are welcome. Creepy is someone who is inherently weak and sly when it comes to expressing what he wants. You know he is after something that he thinks you can offer. A man like that makes my skin crawl because I think he would take advantage of me to get what he wants, unlike men who are straight up about their motives. I don't think it's because he is someone I find unattractive to start with, I think it is their slyness that makes them unattractive in the first place. In a non-sexual or non-dating context you could have someone's sidekick as a creep. A man who isn't in a dominant position to express what he wants as a result of his cowardice. Because he is a coward, you can't trust him because you know he goes about his business in a round-about kind of way. Women don't come across creepy that much (although I have met really weird, cat ladies who do!) because they tend to be more passive by nature and physically weak therefore less likely to be threatening in any way.
Eternal Sunshine Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Hey Emilia - I am now a cat lady! I just remembered that I describe my bro's friend as creepy (my brother agrees). He never expressed romantic interest in me and he is quite good looking. But I just get the creepy vibe around him. I think he may just be socially inept or something, but I get the skin crawling feeling without a logical reason.
Emilia Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 I didn't mean that women who have cats are creepy but there are definitely some - usually a fair bit older - who are.
Ross MwcFan Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 Robin Williams in the movie One Hour Photo is what creepy is to me. Heck, even just the way he looks in it is creepy, One Hour Photo (2002) - YouTube
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