The number one factor in a man's attraction for a woman is

[M2155]

This is true IME. I have always admired women who have this ability (I myself do not have it) and I envy their success with the male gender, and not just in the romantic sense. Men are not unfathomable mysteries to them, as they are to me. These women know just what to say and do to "keep the balance" (don't know a better way to describe it) while keeping the interaction interesting. Men love it and flock to them.

 

These women have one trait in common - they grew up with one or more brothers. Maybe if I'd had a brother I would have gotten the hang of it?

 

I feel the same way. I have a few female friends that have men eating out of their hands just being themselves, commanding a certain level of treatment and enjoying the male company, it's a confidence that I admire. But I thought you were going to say the common trait is that they grew up with good relationships with their fathers. My brothers failed me in this case

[soserious1]

I am overweight, by about 20 pounds. And my job is nowhere near crappy. It pays much better than any other job I could get with my education, which is why I have it.

 

And as I've already said, I am more than willing to date guys "like" me... slightly overweight, average. I have said that I've had several MALE posters look at pictures of my exes and guys I've been interested in, and they've all voted that I was not stretching my league.

 

And yet, guys still won't date me. Won't pay any attention to me. And your suggestion to that would be "Oh well, lose weight." THAT'S where the female-hate side comes in... I've seen you defend Somedude's rights to a young, thin, big boobed female (while opining how rare they are in America), but shrug at me that my standards are "unrealistic." Well they can't get any lower WITHOUT going into "unemployed" and "obese" categories.

 

And yeah, I would rather be single and bitter than settled for, and I don't see how that makes me a man-hater OR a man-repellant.

 

Like any other person in the dating market you have three choices.

 

1.if the men you desire don't desire you back, fix the problems that are causing them to not want you.

 

2. Lower your standards to the point that you are getting approached on OLD sites.

 

3. Do nothing & remain single in the hopes that you'll get lucky enough to land a guy from group # one

 

Like it or not those are the only choices anybody male or female gets.

[El Brujo]

If she actually likes men or not.

 

Well I don't kmow about that...

 

When I was in high school, I had the hots for one girl who had a lot of the traits on my checklist, the only thing I could find wrong with her was that she was a bit too much of a goody-two-shoes... She was sweet and friendly toward me at a time when most of the kids in high school bullied me and thought I was a real wuss because I never went to jail.

 

Then in our senior year, I learned this girl was a flaming lesbian! I was heartbusted!!!

[Woggle]

I would not count Elswyth in the group that hates men. I must admit that very few of the regulars here are straight up man haters. There have been a few that are not trolls but most don't seem to post much anymore.