OhHey Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Maybe he was pissed because she misrepresented her appearance in her photos (as overweight women on dating sites often do) and he had to waste his time meeting her. No...she doesn't do dating sites....in fact....she is totally internet exempt. She was set-up with him by her friend... She just wasn't what he "wanted" and he treated her like dust and cut the date short like an *******. Even if you're not into the person, I can't believe some pricks would do that sort of thing. I actually still want to hit him.....He has no idea how that hurt my sister.. How guys like that sleep at night....I will never know.. effin asswipe.
OhHey Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 She says every single one of her past boyfriends dumped her for someone else! They were her boyfriends, not just a date that is not attracted. Perhaps she should be more careful in who she chooses to date seriously. Who cares..all *******s....all of them.
OhHey Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 FeelsGoodMan, you'll never Pwne TBF..... I'd take my loss and move on, buddy
The dot Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 No...she doesn't do dating sites....in fact....she is totally internet exempt. She was set-up with him by her friend... She just wasn't what he "wanted" and he treated her like dust and cut the date short like an *******. Even if you're not into the person, I can't believe some pricks would do that sort of thing. I actually still want to hit him.....He has no idea how that hurt my sister.. How guys like that sleep at night....I will never know.. effin asswipe. Well, if he's an asswipe, your sister should probably be glad he's gone. I know I would be.
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 You brought Canada into the discussion, not me. Also, did you notice Australia was #5? You also brought Australia into the discussion. Both were brought into the discussion as proof that 100 lbs at 5' is "normal" weight. Did you also actually read the article? It's the prioritization of only 10 developed countries, so Canada is 6/10 and Australia is 5/10. I said that if you travel outside USA/UK/AUS/CAN you will see that thin is the norm, not the exception. That article shows that Canada is the 6th fattest country in the developed world (it looks at data from all OECD countries but provides analysis only for the top ten). Since you live in a fat country, I'm not surprised you see obesity as normal.
The dot Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 You brought Canada into the discussion, not me. Also, did you notice Australia was #5? You also brought Australia into the discussion. Both were brought into the discussion as proof that 100 lbs at 5' is "normal" weight. Did you also actually read the article? It's the prioritization of only 10 developed countries, so Canada is 6/10 and Australia is 5/10. In the end, it doesn't really matter what's "normal" and what isn't in which country. All that matters here is what looks good to guys (if that's who you're trying to date), and overweight doesn't look good to the majority of guys -- period. The obesity rate in your country doesn't change that. Really, it's like poor guys in America who can't get dates trying to claim they have more money than guys in Nigeria. It won't help them when the women they want to date reject them for richer men. 1
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 For fun, I went to Wiki and calculated the average weight for the following six countries for women at 5'. I've rounded up or down to the pound: Brazil: 132 lbs Chile: 143 lbs Germany: 137 lbs South Korea: 118 lbs UK - Wales: 143 lbs United States: 153 lbs Does anyone see any 100 lbs at 5' in these four countries, even in skinny and tiny framed South Korea? Ummm...NO! Now, based on the article that feelsgood linked, only 30% of Americans are obese, so don't even go there. Average = normal weight. 1
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 In the end, it doesn't really matter what's "normal" and what isn't in which country. All that matters here is what looks good to guys (if that's who you're trying to date), and overweight doesn't look good to the majority of guys -- period. The obesity rate in your country doesn't change that. Really, it's like poor guys in America who can't get dates trying to claim they have more money than guys in Nigeria. It won't help them when the women they want to date reject them for richer men.What you're telling me is that facts are meaningless which is true according to preference. Strangely enough, the majority of men get with the majority of women in the U.S. So what this means is that the minority of men in the U.S. are fixated on abnormally thin women, hence why they're single, right?
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Now, based on the article that feelsgood linked, only 30% of Americans are obese, so don't even go there. Obese and overweight are two different categories. Just because you are not obese (as in you're so fat you are going to die if you don't do something about it) doesn't mean you are of normal weight. According to the U.S. Department of Health, 68% of Americans are overweight or obese. Why Obesity is a Health Problem for Families and Children And since you haven't explained how you arrived at your "calculations" of average weight for 5'0 tall women, I am going to assume you just made them up.
johan Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Did you make them up, TBF? The 153 for US women seems pretty light. 2
The dot Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 What you're telling me is that facts are meaningless which is true according to preference. Strangely enough, the majority of men get with the majority of women in the U.S. So what this means is that the minority of men in the U.S. are fixated on abnormally thin women, hence why they're single, right? Do they? Last I heard, the majority of households in America were headed up by an unmarried person. You might want to check your numbers again. Besides, what's the divorce rate again? They might get together for a while, but then they'll invariably want to trade up. BTW, I think most men are fixated on thin women, just as most women are fixated on rich men. If you don't believe me, go and ask any man who married an "average" woman if he'd be happy if she lost 20lbs. We all know what the answer to that one is. Go and ask any woman if she'd prefer her husband made $40k/year more, and we all know the answer to that one, as well. Men and women alike might eventually "settle", but in most cases, if they get a chance with someone thinner or richer, they'll grab it with both hands. That's just basic human biology.
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Obese and overweight are two different categories. Just because you are not obese (as in you're so fat you are going to die if you don't do something about it) doesn't mean you are of normal weight. According to the U.S. Department of Health, 68% of Americans are overweight or obese. Why Obesity is a Health Problem for Families and Children And since you haven't explained how you arrived at your "calculations" of average weight for 5'0 tall women, I am going to assume you just made them up. 68% of Americans, which includes every MAN, woman and CHILD. Suddenly, men and children factor into this discussion? Thought we were talking about women. Body weight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Human height - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Verify it yourself. I already told you how I did it but if you need the links, the numbers are there for you to verify my calculations.
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Do they? Last I heard, the majority of households in America were headed up by an unmarried person. You might want to check your numbers again. Besides, what's the divorce rate again? They might get together for a while, but then they'll invariably want to trade up. BTW, I think most men are fixated on thin women, just as most women are fixated on rich men. If you don't believe me, go and ask any man who married an "average" woman if he'd be happy if she lost 20lbs. We all know what the answer to that one is. Go and ask any woman if she'd prefer her husband made $40k/year more, and we all know the answer to that one, as well. Men and women alike might eventually "settle", but in most cases, if they get a chance with someone thinner or richer, they'll grab it with both hands. That's just basic human biology.Huh? Have you ever heard of relationships? Who brought marriage into this discussion?
The dot Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Huh? Have you ever heard of relationships? Who brought marriage into this discussion? Is that meant to be a trick question? Relationships have an even higher break-up rate than marriages do, so my point still remains. People still want to trade-up. Men generally want the thinnest, most physically attractive woman they can get, and women generally want the richest man they can get. Period. Again, people might hook up with someone who isn't quite what they want for a while, often because they can't stand the thought of being alone (although why that should bother anyone I don't know). But in truth, men will generally want a thinner woman, and women will generally want a richer man, and when they find what they want, they will end the relationship they're in to get it.
FitChick Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Now, as far these 'hormones' how do we go about getting those surgically removed? Maybe one of these might work.
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Is that meant to be a trick question? Relationships have an even higher break-up rate than marriages do, so my point still remains. People still want to trade-up. Men generally want the thinnest, most physically attractive woman they can get, and women generally want the richest man they can get. Period. Again, people might hook up with someone who isn't quite what they want for a while, often because they can't stand the thought of being alone (although why that should bother anyone I don't know). But in truth, men will generally want a thinner woman, and women will generally want a richer man, and when they find what they want, they will end the relationship they're in to get it.What has any of this got to do with price of rice in China? Feelsgood was ranting all over verhrzyn for weighing 125 lbs at 5' tall, claiming she should be 100 lbs which is normal weight. I've just proved that normal (average) weight is 153 lbs in the United States. Feelsgood brought in a link that claims 68% of Americans (men and women [my child reference was inaccurate]) are overweight. Now, let's look at the definition of overweight based on the CDC site: Obesity and Overweight for Professionals: Defining | DNPAO | CDC Definitions for Adults For adults, overweight and obesity ranges are determined by using weight and height to calculate a number called the "body mass index" (BMI). BMI is used because, for most people, it correlates with their amount of body fat. An adult who has a BMI between 25 and 29.9 is considered overweight. An adult who has a BMI of 30 or higher is considered obese. Verhrzyn's BMI is 24.4 which is NOT overweight. As far as YOUR dating preferences for weight, those are irrelevant since your preferences if you agree with Feelsgood about 5'/100 lbs are ridiculous, even by tiny South Korean norms.
westrock Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I have pursued every.single.one of my boyfriends, and every.single.one has dumped me for someone hotter, even though I constantly try to update my wardrobe, wear make-up, go to the gym, keep myself on an insane schedule of diets, and pretty much do everything possible to keep myself at my physical best. And it still isn't enough for men. I spent HOURS, and countless (really, I've lost count) amounts of money on my appearance, and yet by your estimate, it STILL isn't enough to get the overweight guy who wears baggy jeans with holes in them and eats nothing but pizza. That's great you work so hard to keep yourself at your physical best. But, out of curiousity, how many HOURS and how much money have you spent on improving your inner appearance (ie. your attitude, beliefs and personality)? Would it be safe to say not much? Even if you had to pursue them, you've nonetheless had boyfriends. You think they left you because they found someone "hotter" (your perception) and that only reinforces your attitude that guys only want hot women. But, it's not your looks that needs improving, it's your attitude. Most guys would eventually get tired of even a "hot" woman if she has a poor attitude or is bitter. Divert some of that money to therapy and you'll see a dramatic improvement. There are lots of good guys out there who will love you for who you are. But, if you're not happy how you look, how can you expect anyone else to be happy how you look? You're not open to those guys because with your current attitude you wouldn't believe them, thinking they are settling for you. These guys will overlook any perceived beauty flaws you think you have provided that you have a great personality. However, being bitter will turn off any guy. Once you accept who you are, as you are, you're attitude will improve, and you'll see more guys showing an interest in you, even if you have to initially pursue them. Once these guys get to know you, they'll appreciate your inner beauty and they will fall in love with ALL of you (your inner and outer beauty). You only need to experience that with 1 guy, and he will be a keeper for you. And no, he will not be "settling" for you.
The dot Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 What has any of this got to do with price of rice in China? <snip> Verhrzyn's BMI is 24.4 which is NOT overweight. As far as YOUR dating preferences for weight, those are irrelevant since your preferences if you agree with Feelsgood about 5'/100 lbs are ridiculous, even by tiny South Korean norms. Are you deliberately being obtuse? It doesn't matter whether a BMI of 24.4 is overweight or not. In the dating game, all that matters is what looks good to the opposite gender. Whether someone's preferences are "ridiculous" or not isn't what matters. What matters is whether YOU can meet the preferences of the guy you want to date. Your BMI chart might look good to your doctor, but unless you're planning to date him specifically, it won't have any bearing out there in the dating world. Like it or not.
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Did you make them up, TBF? The 153 for US women seems pretty light.You and I both know this is largely an intellectual exercise for me. But I do find it infuriating when guys call women who are within healthy BMI range to be overweight, when it's all personal preference. It's also sheer b/s that 5'/100 lbs is the norm or average, even around the world.
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 68% of Americans, which includes every MAN, woman and CHILD. Suddenly, men and children factor into this discussion? Thought we were talking about women. Yes, we are talking about everyone - men, women, children, geriatrics and midgets. I'm sure you will be happy to know that "only" 64% of American women are overweight/obese Healthy weight for a 5'0 tall female is in the 90-110 lbs range: Ideal Weight and Height Chart | Body Mass Index Chart | Rush
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Are you deliberately being obtuse? It doesn't matter whether a BMI of 24.4 is overweight or not. In the dating game, all that matters is what looks good to the opposite gender. Whether someone's preferences are "ridiculous" or not isn't what matters. What matters is whether YOU can meet the preferences of the guy you want to date. Your BMI chart might look good to your doctor, but unless you're planning to date him specifically, it won't have any bearing out there in the dating world. Like it or not.The average American guy is fine with the average American woman. So why do you have abnormal preferences?
The dot Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 The average American guy is fine with the average American woman. So why do you have abnormal preferences? Oh? Where did you get this conclusion from?
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Yes, we are talking about everyone - men, women, children, geriatrics and midgets. I'm sure you will be happy to know that "only" 64% of American women are overweight/obese Healthy weight for a 5'0 tall female is in the 90-110 lbs range: Ideal Weight and Height Chart | Body Mass Index Chart | RushDo you understand the meaning of the bolded word? Also refer to the BMI calculator embedded in YOUR link. If you plug in verhrzyn's numbers it says "healthy" in green letters.
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Oh? Where did you get this conclusion from?Why are there so many American people dating, in relationships or married? Why are you single?
The dot Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Why are there so many American people dating, in relationships or married? Why are you single? I'm single because I love being that way. I've explained what I love about it in other threads. I've turned down two relationships in the last 12 months BTW. I've already explained why there are so many American people dating, in relationships or married. A lot of them are afraid to be alone, and so they settle for what they can get. The majority of those relationships and marriages ultimately end because one partner or the other tries to trade up to the person they really want down the track. Why are so many rich guys (who have their pick of the available women) dating thin women?
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