threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Normal weight for 5'0 is 100 lbs. So you are actually 25% overweight. What is average in America is of little relevance as 70% of Americans are overweight. It's like saying that the average inmate at a supermax prison is a murder. Goes with the territory..Prove it. That's b/s. So having $200 per month worth of disposable income makes you "freaking rich". Really? Which country do you live in? America or Angola? Agreed. Perfectly satisfied. I'm a realist.Wrong. You're brutal with no reason to be and are ridiculous when it comes to expectations about women's weight and looks.
Pyro Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Skinny is ideal, and that's what men want. Everything else is settled for, as the poster above you oh-so-kindly pointed out. Please define skinny for me please.
mesmerized Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Yeah, which is why Feelsgoodman and Somedude are constantly going on and on about how they want skinny women and how fat I am. Skinny is ideal, and that's what men want. Everything else is settled for, as the poster above you oh-so-kindly pointed out. I've had men touching me telling me they love the meat on my bones lol and they weren't fat or skinny men either, very much into fitness actually. Skinny is great, sure. But that doesn't mean men can't enjoy a woman with some meat on her bones. You actually have some good features on your body, play them up as I told you before.
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 How can you provide an objective opinion with no knowledge of what her definition of "cute" is? That's ridiculous. That's why I asked her to post pictures of a few guys she thinks are in her league so that I could give her my opinion on whether she's being realistic. How is that "ridiculous". I find verhrzn looks cute. So if her definition of a cute guy aligns with my definition of her own cuteness, how would this be calling the sky green? Your opinion does not matter because you are a woman and she, to the best of my knowledge, is not a lesbian. Men and women often have different views on what's considered "cute".
xxoo Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Yeah, which is why Feelsgoodman and Somedude are constantly going on and on about how they want skinny women and how fat I am. Skinny is ideal, and that's what men want. Everything else is settled for, as the poster above you oh-so-kindly pointed out. Please don't listen to the most judgmental guy and think he represents all. Again, look around. Look at the guys in lust with their non-skinny women!
verhrzn Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Please don't listen to the most judgmental guy and think they represent all. Again, look around. Look at the guys in lust with their non-skinny women! Because they have "meat on their bones" in the right places. Show me ONE guy who thinks a woman with small boobs, a big stomach, and no butt is attractive. The only way women like this got guys is because the women harangued them, and the guys settled. My mother is constantly talking about how if she hadn't pursued my father until he gave in, she'd be alone. And she oh-so-fortunately passed her ugly body onto me. And yeah, I'm bitter about it. Honestly, Woggle, how bout you cut us bitter women a break?
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Prove it. That's b/s. Go to any country outside America and UK (and maybe Australia and Canada) and you shall have your proof. The rest of the world is pretty thin compared to the English-speaking land whales. Heck, look at your own family photographs from pre-WWII days. Chances are, you won't see too many "curvy" people on them.
mesmerized Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Because they have "meat on their bones" in the right places. Show me ONE guy who thinks a woman with small boobs, a big stomach, and no butt is attractive. The only way women like this got guys is because the women harangued them, and the guys settled. My mother is constantly talking about how if she hadn't pursued my father until he gave in, she'd be alone. And she oh-so-fortunately passed her ugly body onto me. And yeah, I'm bitter about it. Honestly, Woggle, how bout you cut us bitter women a break? You have big boobs, what are you talking about?
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Because they have "meat on their bones" in the right places. Show me ONE guy who thinks a woman with small boobs, a big stomach, and no butt is attractive. The only way women like this got guys is because the women harangued them, and the guys settled. My mother is constantly talking about how if she hadn't pursued my father until he gave in, she'd be alone. And she oh-so-fortunately passed her ugly body onto me.Ka-ching!! More baggage from your mother. All these negative messages that she's trained you to believe. Do you really want to be just like your mother? This is reminiscent of Woggle's mother with her brutality.
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Go to any country outside America and UK (and maybe Australia and Canada) and you shall have your proof. The rest of the world is pretty thin compared to the English-speaking land whales. Heck, look at your own family photographs from pre-WWII days. Chances are, you won't see too many "curvy" people on them.Go get proof of the b/s you're spouting. I live in Canada.
verhrzn Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Ka-ching!! More baggage from your mother. All these negative messages that she's trained you to believe. Do you really want to be just like your mother? With this body, I don't have a choice. What she says IS true... she pursued my father, and no other guy has ever been interested in her. "Life sucks for ugly girls" may be a negative message, but it is a true one.
AD1980 Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Theyre's plenty of unpleasant looking people together in happy relationships,you make it seem like only good looking people are in relationships
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 With this body, I don't have a choice. What she says IS true... she pursued my father, and no other guy has ever been interested in her. "Life sucks for ugly girls" may be a negative message, but it is a true one.I'm sure she did pursue your father. Doesn't mean that no other guy would have her. It also doesn't mean that you're exactly like her. And you're not ugly. Even our resident misogynist says you're not ugly. AND I've proved that feelsgoodman spouts nonsense when it comes to his expectations of what's normal and his brutal messages to you about being unrealistic when he can't even quantify your expectations. You're a systemizing woman. Your train of logic should lead you away from the irrational messages. Do you understand the double bind theory?
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Because they have "meat on their bones" in the right places. Show me ONE guy who thinks a woman with small boobs, a big stomach, and no butt is attractive. The only way women like this got guys is because the women harangued them, and the guys settled. My mother is constantly talking about how if she hadn't pursued my father until he gave in, she'd be alone. And she oh-so-fortunately passed her ugly body onto me. And yeah, I'm bitter about it. Honestly, Woggle, how bout you cut us bitter women a break? Your mother is 100% right. People who are not attractive have to work much harder to be in relationships than people who are handsome. This is equally true for both genders. You shouldn't be bitter about it...just accept what you are and work with what you have. It sounds like you are bitter because things do not fall in your lap like they do for your more attractive girlfriends.
verhrzn Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Your mother is 100% right. People who are not attractive have to work much harder to be in relationships than people who are handsome. This is equally true for both genders. You shouldn't be bitter about it...just accept what you are and work with what you have. It sounds like you are bitter because things do not fall in your lap like they do for your more attractive girlfriends. Don't "fall into my lap"?? Are you freaking KIDDING me?? I have pursued every.single.one of my boyfriends, and every.single.one has dumped me for someone hotter, even though I constantly try to update my wardrobe, wear make-up, go to the gym, keep myself on an insane schedule of diets, and pretty much do everything possible to keep myself at my physical best. And it still isn't enough for men. I spent HOURS, and countless (really, I've lost count) amounts of money on my appearance, and yet by your estimate, it STILL isn't enough to get the overweight guy who wears baggy jeans with holes in them and eats nothing but pizza. And yet I'm not supposed to be bitter about it. That's the REAL kicker of all this... that even though I do my damnest to fight against nature (and don't even start with the whole "Americans are fat" thing... my body type comes straight from my ancestors. Photos of my great-great grandmother clearly show big stomach, no butt. My mother just lost the genes for "decent rack" along the way) it's STILL not enough because, oh, men are just "biologically" that way.
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Go get proof of the b/s you're spouting. I live in Canada. And Canada is the 6th fattest country in the world. Obesity Rates Rising: 10 Fattest Countries In The Developed World (SLIDESHOW) Not surprised you see obesity as normal.
OhHey Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Don't "fall into my lap"?? Are you freaking KIDDING me?? I have pursued every.single.one of my boyfriends, and every.single.one has dumped me for someone hotter, even though I constantly try to update my wardrobe, wear make-up, go to the gym, keep myself on an insane schedule of diets, and pretty much do everything possible to keep myself at my physical best. And it still isn't enough for men. I spent HOURS, and countless (really, I've lost count) amounts of money on my appearance, and yet by your estimate, it STILL isn't enough to get the overweight guy who wears baggy jeans with holes in them and eats nothing but pizza. And yet I'm not supposed to be bitter about it. That's the REAL kicker of all this... that even though I do my damnest to fight against nature (and don't even start with the whole "Americans are fat" thing... my body type comes straight from my ancestors. Photos of my great-great grandmother clearly show big stomach, no butt. My mother just lost the genes for "decent rack" along the way) it's STILL not enough because, oh, men are just "biologically" that way. I know I'm a weird, jack off in yours and other eyes and if I were 10 years younger, I'd like to check ya out and I wouldn't be one of those douche berries that dumps you at the first sight of larger boobs. I am pretty well a one girl type and I'd bet I would be more fun than any of those douche bags you have gone with.
mesmerized Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Don't "fall into my lap"?? Are you freaking KIDDING me?? I have pursued every.single.one of my boyfriends, and every.single.one has dumped me for someone hotter, even though I constantly try to update my wardrobe, wear make-up, go to the gym, keep myself on an insane schedule of diets, and pretty much do everything possible to keep myself at my physical best. And it still isn't enough for men. I spent HOURS, and countless (really, I've lost count) amounts of money on my appearance, and yet by your estimate, it STILL isn't enough to get the overweight guy who wears baggy jeans with holes in them and eats nothing but pizza. And yet I'm not supposed to be bitter about it. That's the REAL kicker of all this... that even though I do my damnest to fight against nature (and don't even start with the whole "Americans are fat" thing... my body type comes straight from my ancestors. Photos of my great-great grandmother clearly show big stomach, no butt. My mother just lost the genes for "decent rack" along the way) it's STILL not enough because, oh, men are just "biologically" that way. I'm sorry but I have a really hard time believing it's your looks that's causing this. To me it truly sounds like you just dated jerks.
OhHey Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I'm sorry but I have a really hard time believing it's your looks that's causing this. To me it truly sounds like you just dated jerks. I see where she's coming from... My sister went on dates when she was a lil large and routinely got the short stick. One guy didn't even bother driving her home....God I was pissed:rolleyes: Guys exxpect some hot, lucious ass to walk through the door and when they are not, the girl becomes second best. That same guy had the nerve to call her and ask if she could set him up with some girl at her work....lol.... I wanted to hit that guy and I told my sister if she did this for him...I would never talk to her again....I was serious. So yes....effing jerks and V has seen many. I know all about those pieces of garbage.
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I spent HOURS, and countless (really, I've lost count) amounts of money on my appearance, and yet by your estimate, it STILL isn't enough to get the overweight guy who wears baggy jeans with holes in them and eats nothing but pizza. I'd like to see a picture of this overweight guy in baggy jeans who eats nothing but pizza. Somehow I doubt he looks the way you describe him. For the sake of argument, I will buy into your claim that you try your hardest to lose weight (though 20 mins of cardio a couple of times a week is not my idea trying hard...) Let's say you have bad genes that you inherited from your ancestors. Now what? Is that supposed to make your obesity more attractive than the obesity of someone who is fat because she eats ten quarter pounders for lunch?? Would you date a midget because his deformity is not his fault? There is no point in being bitter over something you cannot change. You will be much happier if you accept reality for what it is, not what you want it to be.
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 My sister went on dates when she was a lil large and routinely got the short stick. One guy didn't even bother driving her home....God I was pissed:rolleyes: Maybe he was pissed because she misrepresented her appearance in her photos (as overweight women on dating sites often do) and he had to waste his time meeting her.
mesmerized Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I see where she's coming from... My sister went on dates when she was a lil large and routinely got the short stick. One guy didn't even bother driving her home....God I was pissed:rolleyes: Guys exxpect some hot, lucious ass to walk through the door and when they are not, the girl becomes second best. That same guy had the nerve to call her and ask if she could set him up with some girl at her work....lol.... I wanted to hit that guy and I told my sister if she did this for him...I would never talk to her again....I was serious. So yes....effing jerks and V has seen many. I know all about those pieces of garbage. She says every single one of her past boyfriends dumped her for someone else! They were her boyfriends, not just a date that is not attracted. Perhaps she should be more careful in who she chooses to date seriously. 1
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 And Canada is the 6th fattest country in the world. Obesity Rates Rising: 10 Fattest Countries In The Developed World (SLIDESHOW) Not surprised you see obesity as normal.You brought Canada into the discussion, not me. Also, did you notice Australia was #5? You also brought Australia into the discussion. Both were brought into the discussion as proof that 100 lbs at 5' is "normal" weight. Did you also actually read the article? It's the prioritization of only 10 developed countries, so Canada is 6/10 and Australia is 5/10. According to today's update, which looks at data from 10 of the developed nations analyzed in the 2010 global report, obesity rates have significantly slowed or stopped altogether in England, Hungary, Italy, Korea and Switzerland, and have grown only slightly France and Spain.
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