Badsingularity Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 How does that help?? What is the purpose of this thread? He noticed something involving the relationships between men and women and decided to create a thread about it. Fairly common on this forum.
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I love how no matter how many times I tell you, you're wrong, you still don't believe me. Would it help if I said I've shown examples of my exes to other MALE posters on this board who confirmed I'm NOT punching above my weight? Guys, even overweight ones, do not message me. They do not approach me, they are not interested. In fact, they're far too obsessed with women above THEIR league to notice I exist. It's funny how the exact same thing you accuse me of doing is what I am actually suffering from. But it's far easier to stick with your "American women are disgusting fat cows who are also privileged spoiled princesses" than to try to understand. Meh, I don't buy it. I see lots of overweight women with overweight boyfriends...Sometimes their boyfriends are actually less overweight. You are just doing something wrong and unwilling to admit it.
verhrzn Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Meh, I don't buy it. I see lots of overweight women with overweight boyfriends...Sometimes their boyfriends are actually less overweight. You are just doing something wrong and unwilling to admit it. I've admitted it several times... I'm unattractive, and guys want attractive women. Thus, my bitterness.
xxoo Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 As long as your penis isn't used as an excuse to justify bad behavior, you should have no problems. Depends what is considered "bad behavior".... I can see it from both sides. I've seen men AND women being blasted here for exhibiting male and female needs. Women are accused of withholding sex and manipulation because they pull away when their needs for emotional intimacy aren't met. Men are accused of being selfish because they pull away when their sexual needs are not met. And there are many more examples, too.
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I've admitted it several times... I'm unattractive, and guys want attractive women. Thus, my bitterness. It's true that guys want attractive women. However, most women are average or ugly...hot women are in the minority, especially in counties like America and the UK. This means that most men will never have a hot girlfriend. That doesn't mean they won't pine for these attractive females. It's human nature to want the best. You and most other women will never be a man's top choice. You will be the one that he settled for because he couldn't get that hot chick he always wanted. But so what? Most men are in the same boat. Every woman dreams of a hot, tall, financially successful man who is confident, charming, romantic and has a great sense of humor. Very few women will ever get such a man. The average American "Homer Simpson" is also going to end up as someone his girlfriend/wife settled for.
Author Woggle Posted April 15, 2012 Author Posted April 15, 2012 I like men in general...Just not the ones who hurt me;) I like the men who are not disloyal, cheating dogs;) Nice, genuine, good guys are awesome:) As long as you believe the latter actually exist and are not as rare as some act they are.
RedRobin Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Depends what is considered "bad behavior".... I can see it from both sides. I've seen men AND women being blasted here for exhibiting male and female needs. Women are accused of withholding sex and manipulation because they pull away when their needs for emotional intimacy aren't met. Men are accused of being selfish because they pull away when their sexual needs are not met. And there are many more examples, too. I'm talking about generally rude and inconsiderate behavior passed off as being like 'a man'.
jobaba Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 If she actually likes men or not. I notice the women who tend to have the most successful relationships tend to actually like men and don't assume we are a bunch of disloyal, cheating dogs and actually try to understand what really makes us tick. Women who tend to have long lasting and happy relationships are ones who truly get us and don't hate us because of it. In my experience the women who are most successful with men are the cute to slightly above average women who really make a man feel like he is cool. They'll act interested in your hobbies, make you feel like you're a good guy and you feel interesting and funny. Of course, you're not realizing at the time they are doing this with a lot of guys. It's not leading on per se, more just a type of charisma. But the truth of the matter is, at the end of the day, that woman is going to have to reject a lot of men. This is a chicken and egg situation. I certainly don't hate men, but over the years have become increasingly bitter towards them in a dating sense because of how I have been treated BY men. The abuse came first... the bitterness came later. Yea, I'm the same way. Even when I was shy and had no female attention when I was younger, I was still very positive towards women. I think the problem with me was I was too much into women. I don't mind getting rejected by the masses but unrequited love has really left me bitter. I was too much of a naive romantic in retrospect. The scary part is the bitterness doesn't really disappear. Getting into a decent relationship and dating a good person will help take the edge off, but I feel like I'll always be a little bitter that I never got to date the few women in my life that I was really crazy about.
verhrzn Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 It's true that guys want attractive women. However, most women are average or ugly...hot women are in the minority, especially in counties like America and the UK. This means that most men will never have a hot girlfriend. That doesn't mean they won't pine for these attractive females. It's human nature to want the best. You and most other women will never be a man's top choice. You will be the one that he settled for because he couldn't get that hot chick he always wanted. But so what? Most men are in the same boat. Every woman dreams of a hot, tall, financially successful man who is confident, charming, romantic and has a great sense of humor. Very few women will ever get such a man. The average American "Homer Simpson" is also going to end up as someone his girlfriend/wife settled for. And gee, why ever would this attitude of "men are gonna settle for you, be satisfied with that" make me bitter? Especially since I dream exclusively of short, cute (as opposed to hot), as-financially-successful-as-myself men.
xxoo Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I'm talking about generally rude and inconsiderate behavior passed off as being like 'a man'. The men pass it off as being like 'a man'? I do think men are generally more crude. I love that about them 1
xxoo Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 It's true that guys want attractive women. However, most women are average or ugly...hot women are in the minority, especially in counties like America and the UK. This means that most men will never have a hot girlfriend. That doesn't mean they won't pine for these attractive females. It's human nature to want the best. You and most other women will never be a man's top choice. You will be the one that he settled for because he couldn't get that hot chick he always wanted. But so what? Most men are in the same boat. Every woman dreams of a hot, tall, financially successful man who is confident, charming, romantic and has a great sense of humor. Very few women will ever get such a man. The average American "Homer Simpson" is also going to end up as someone his girlfriend/wife settled for. Average people fall in love with average people all the time. In Love. Think they are awesome and hot and everything. Happens all the time. That's what love hormones do. 2
Badsingularity Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I've admitted it several times... I'm unattractive, and guys want attractive women. Thus, my bitterness. When I was younger I also believed that I was insanely unattractive and ugly. No one could convince me otherwise. I also believed that I had all this proof and evidence that proved that I was unattractive. It didn't matter what anyone told me. I did not believe them and I could not understand how they could not see how ugly I was. I sounded just like you. Turns out. I was very, very wrong. It was all in my head. I also believe I had body dismorphic disorder. What I saw in the mirror was not what everyone else saw. I wasted years believing the BS that my own brain was telling me, just to find out that none of it was true. Eventually I made a complete turn around and my life and relationships with people improved dramatically. I hope the same for you.
RedRobin Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 The men pass it off as being like 'a man'? I do think men are generally more crude. I love that about them Sure, as long as *I* get to be crude and thoughtless too... I don't 'love' people who use their gender as an excuse for anything.
jobaba Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Average people fall in love with average people all the time. In Love. Think they are awesome and hot and everything. Happens all the time. That's what love hormones do. I agree. The last time I was nuts about a woman, I showed her pic to my buddy without telling him the story and his response was, "Who's that? She's kind of a butterface." But to me, she was SO beautiful. Now, as far these 'hormones' how do we go about getting those surgically removed? 1
verhrzn Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 When I was younger I also believed that I was insanely unattractive and ugly. No one could convince me otherwise. I also believed that I had all this proof and evidence that proved that I was unattractive. It didn't matter what anyone told me. I did not believe them and I could not understand how they could not see how ugly I was. I sounded just like you. Turns out. I was very, very wrong. It was all in my head. I also believe I had body dismorphic disorder. What I saw in the mirror was not what everyone else saw. I wasted years believing the BS that my own brain was telling me, just to find out that none of it was true. Eventually I made a complete turn around and my life and relationships with people improved dramatically. I hope the same for you. Why? I am not you. You were wrong; but so far, I have been right. It hasn't been in my head. Guys on this board have confirmed it; they'll put up with tons of crazy behaviors just because the woman is hot, and they'll put personality second. Fat and ugly girls will always be alone. And now, I'm supposed to not be bitter about that. One more thing guys can knock me on.... that I should apparently still be cheerful and trusting even when they taunt and reject me for my looks.
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Why? I am not you. You were wrong; but so far, I have been right. It hasn't been in my head. Guys on this board have confirmed it; they'll put up with tons of crazy behaviors just because the woman is hot, and they'll put personality second. Fat and ugly girls will always be alone. And now, I'm supposed to not be bitter about that. One more thing guys can knock me on.... that I should apparently still be cheerful and trusting even when they taunt and reject me for my looks.Weird how you believe what you read on this board but when members tell you directly you're not ugly, you don't believe it. Badsingularity might be onto something. 2
xxoo Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Sure, as long as *I* get to be crude and thoughtless too... I don't 'love' people who use their gender as an excuse for anything. That's the best part of hanging with men! I get to be crude, and throw the low blows too, and everyone just has a great laugh.
verhrzn Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Weird how you believe what you read on this board but when members tell you directly you're not ugly, you don't believe it. Badsingularity might be onto something. Except that nearly all of those posters have been women, or the "nice" male posters that get labeled as "feminist enablers."
Author Woggle Posted April 15, 2012 Author Posted April 15, 2012 I am certainly now known as a feminist on here and you are in no way ugly. 2
Feelsgoodman Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 And gee, why ever would this attitude of "men are gonna settle for you, be satisfied with that" make me bitter? Especially since I dream exclusively of short, cute (as opposed to hot), as-financially-successful-as-myself men. By your logic, most people should be bitter because they won't get the man/woman of their dreams. You can either accept reality or be alone and bitter forever. You want a cute guy, yet by your own admission you are not particularly cute yourself. This is exactly what I mean by punching above your weight. One day you will grow up and realize that you can't always get what you want and sometimes you have to settle for your #2 or #3 or #7 choice. Or maybe you won't. Then you'll just have to stay single for the rest of your life (which is not necessarily such a bad thing either).
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I am certainly now known as a feminist on here and you are in no way ugly. Except that nearly all of those posters have been women, or the "nice" male posters that get labeled as "feminist enablers."Note the above poster named Woggle. Note the above post. Are you listening or will you also negate the opinion of our longest term misogynist?
verhrzn Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Note the above poster named Woggle. Note the above post. Are you listening or will you also negate the opinion of our longest term misogynist? I'd give that honor to Feelgoodman.... who has expressed ardently that the only guys who will date me are unemployed, overweight guys who "settle" for me, and I better be happy about it. Woggle has no idea what I even look like.
Author Woggle Posted April 15, 2012 Author Posted April 15, 2012 I'd give that honor to Feelgoodman.... who has expressed ardently that the only guys who will date me are unemployed, overweight guys who "settle" for me, and I better be happy about it. Woggle has no idea what I even look like. I saw your picture and you are certainly not ugly. The only thing to fix is assuming the worst from men before they even have a chance. Take care of that and you should be good. 1
verhrzn Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I saw your picture and you are certainly not ugly. The only thing to fix is assuming the worst from men before they even have a chance. Take care of that and you should be good. I don't assume the worse. I assume exactly what this board, and my own experience has shown me... that men want the best physically attractive woman with a decent personality. Why is that the "worst"?
threebyfate Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 I'd give that honor to Feelgoodman.... who has expressed ardently that the only guys who will date me are unemployed, overweight guys who "settle" for me, and I better be happy about it. Woggle has no idea what I even look like.Refer to Woggle's most recent post. He knows what you look like. Instead of believing him, you're looking to the one guy who won't pay a single woman a single compliment? What's wrong with this picture, verhrzn? That would be like me looking for validation from men who only find platinum blondes attractive. Hello? How ridiculous would that be considering how I'm a natural brunette who dyes her hair mink brown/near black? You are being ridiculous. And that's a fact.
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