Meritocracy Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Like if a guy believed the moon was made out of cheese and no matter what you told or showed him he still believed it was one hundred percent cheddar? You could take him to the Smithsonian and point out the moon rock but he would just believe it was from someone's back yard. Sexy or turn off?
TaraMaiden Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Oh my god, total turn-off... sexy-killer completely.... That's not being stubborn, that's being pig-ignorant... 1
january2011 Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Agree with TaraMaiden. On it's own, that's not sexy at all. Perhaps if he were uber intelligent and I knew that he was teasing me, it might be charming, but to adamantly stick to believing something so ridiculous would make me question our compatibility. That level of ignorance is not sexy - not even looks, a kind heart or money could overcome that trait.
Nextlane Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I find women who are intelligent, but stubborn socially attractive. Don't know why, I enjoy playing with their minds!
EasyHeart Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Stubborness is not attractive in a romantic partner, nor is it appeal in a friend. Closed-minded people tend to be very, very boring. 1
Author Meritocracy Posted April 9, 2012 Author Posted April 9, 2012 What if it was something that was less likely to embarrass you in front of your friends but equally ridiculous? Lets say believing 9/11 was a government conspiracy.
rocketman122 Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Like if a guy believed the moon was made out of cheese and no matter what you told or showed him he still believed it was one hundred percent cheddar? You could take him to the Smithsonian and point out the moon rock but he would just believe it was from someone's back yard. Sexy or turn off? does he really believe the moon is made out of cheese or youre just giving an extreme example? if he does I say, no brain power and it has nothing to do with being stubborn but more of an issue that you need to look elswhere HAHA!! stubbornness is not sexy, but if I can convince her over time then alls good. depends on what were talking about.
HappyFlower Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Occasionally can be attractive especially when coupled with intelligence as long as they're willing to consider another opinion, but when its also arrogant, like 'I know its made of cheese and you and everyone else on this planet is wrong'...take a hike
january2011 Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 If you can separate the beliefs from the man and love him, then you're probably going to be okay. I don't think I could and therefore I suggest that there is an incompatibility issue. To put it another way, if you think his beliefs are ridiculous, then how long before you think he's ridiculous? Not a great prospect for the long-term, I'd imagine.
TaraMaiden Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 What if it was something that was less likely to embarrass you in front of your friends but equally ridiculous? Lets say believing 9/11 was a government conspiracy. Are you talking about someone specific - or yourself?
lammie Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 There's a difference between close-minded and stubbornness. I'm open to ideas but as well as stubborn as hell, i.e. if I've decided on something nothing in the world can change my decision though I'll never support that moon is made of cheese.
Author Meritocracy Posted April 9, 2012 Author Posted April 9, 2012 does he really believe the moon is made out of cheese or youre just giving an extreme example? if he does I say, no brain power and it has nothing to do with being stubborn but more of an issue that you need to look elswhere HAHA!! stubbornness is not sexy, but if I can convince her over time then alls good. depends on what were talking about. It's just an extreme example. What he believes is a little more acceptable to the masses, like he wouldn't get laughed out of a room if he started bringing it up. Really it's just as absurd. Are you talking about someone specific - or yourself? I'm talking about someone specific but not myself. He believes in ridiculous things sometimes and will never admit he's mistaken even if you show him the proof to his face. He just pretends the evidence isn't what it is or obfuscates. I was wondering if women whom he dates would like him because of that or in spite of it.
lammie Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 That's not stubborn, that's just thick. Or maybe he's all about face and can't admit that he's wrong?
TaraMaiden Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 It's one of those things that is an amusing idiosyncrasy when you first go out with them, but after a while, it begins to grate like nails on a blackboard - and others will ask - "What do you see in this guy, exactly....?" 1
xxoo Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 One person's stubborn is another person's determined, persistent, tenacious. Some thoughts-- Are his beliefs offensive to you? If he is being eccentric, but not offensive, how can his beliefs embarrass you? Is it impossible that, even if he is wrong about 99%, he may be right about some portion of his beliefs, and you/we are wrong?
Author Meritocracy Posted April 9, 2012 Author Posted April 9, 2012 That's not stubborn, that's just thick. Or maybe he's all about face and can't admit that he's wrong? Could be. But then he's stuck believing the moon is made out of cheese long after everyone else knows it isn't. Is that kind of shamelessness more attractive than admitting your wrong occasionally? It's one of those things that is an amusing idiosyncrasy when you first go out with them, but after a while, it begins to grate like nails on a blackboard - and others will ask - "What do you see in this guy, exactly....?" Thank you TaraMaiden that's what I thought. One person's stubborn is another person's determined, persistent, tenacious. Some thoughts-- Are his beliefs offensive to you? If he is being eccentric, but not offensive, how can his beliefs embarrass you? Is it impossible that, even if he is wrong about 99%, he may be right about some portion of his beliefs, and you/we are wrong? I wouldn't say they are offensive to me, but they are of the nature that can be dangerous if given widespread credibility. I don't want to get into the exact subject because I know there is at least one person on this forum that buys into it also and I'm not looking to get into a flame war with them. I'm more interested in the pigheaded part of this guys personality and if it's attractive or not. I will say that there is a way to discredit him that would live up to any scientific standard today but he still refuses to change his opinion. Or give a rebuttal of his own that involves anything but emotion and obfuscating. It's nothing to do with religion either, that's all I'll say.
Emilia Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I will say that there is a way to discredit him that would live up to any scientific standard today but he still refuses to change his opinion. Or give a rebuttal of his own that involves anything but emotion and obfuscating. It's nothing to do with religion either, that's all I'll say. I think intelligent people with good social skills are able to discuss issues they strongly believe in, even take others' opinions into account or acknowledge their perspective. Perhaps change their own opinions a shade or two. I like a good debate and when someone just spews out some stupid re-gurgitated line to win an argument instead of arguing it smartly, I just go
zengirl Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Like if a guy believed the moon was made out of cheese and no matter what you told or showed him he still believed it was one hundred percent cheddar? You could take him to the Smithsonian and point out the moon rock but he would just believe it was from someone's back yard. Sexy or turn off? This kind of stubborn is not sexy. Someone so stubborn they cannot change in the face of facts is very unintelligent, IMO, and unsexy to me. Someone who perseveres at things, stays true to who they are, and channels their stubbornness in positive ways is very sexy. I think stubborn can be sexy, but it's all about how you express your stubbornness. Hubby and I are both VERY stubborn, but we can change in the face of actual data, of course. 2
TaraMaiden Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Looking stupid is not sexy. Yes though being stubborn is one of the things women find most sexy. If you can just keep chanting drink, drink, DRINK! Until her panties come down you're gold. "your moments of intelligent lucidity, are over-run by your obvious and evident stupidity" Ogden Nash.
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